• elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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    16 days ago

    The French are hated by basically any nation that has a border with them. They fucking invented chauvinism. Wonder why?

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      16 days ago

      Chauvinism has been one of the best selling exports though. No self respecting nationalist who isn’t also a chauvinist.

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      16 days ago

      I’d say we just hate on them for the funny. The moment the yanks start shitting on the French they’re our European homies.

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    17 days ago

    There’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures and the DutchFrench.

  • mastertigurius@lemmy.world
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    I love Europe. It’s the only place where a bus driver from country A can get into a heated argument with a random guy from country B in two completely different languages. After both have gone on for a bit and not understood a word of what the other one was saying, they have reached a point of agreement, can wish each other a good day and carry on.

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      17 days ago

      And here I am, just sitting in the bus, waiting to get to work, while these two are shouting in foreign languages

      I’ve genuinely been in that exact situation haha

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    16 days ago

    Hating other nations is the starting point of all fascist ideas. (also, I’m french)

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      16 days ago

      Isn’t that also how the World Cup works? For example, I wanted Mbape to win, and the English to lose, but that doesn’t mean I actually supported France.

      Edit: And I actually like a third of France below the Olive Oil Boundary. Drowning random animal organs in cream and butter shouldn’t count as “cuisine.”

      Also: https://lemdro.id/post/44056408 is true.

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        Yes. Checks out. Ball sport is facism. With a ball.

        A lot of matches could be avoided if only they had more balls. The ball owner just decided to only make one ball available, so they’d fight over it and remove attention from himself. It’s like the Colosseum, where the Caesar never had to fight.

        This is the shitpost community, btw.

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        16 days ago

        How many wars have the US started by invading other countries?

        Quick Google search:

        • Mexican-American War (1846)

        • Various 19th-century interventions in Latin America and the Caribbean (Haiti, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, etc.)

        • Philippine-American War (1899)

        • Vietnam War escalation (1965)

        • Invasion of Grenada (1983)

        • Invasion of Panama (1989)

        • Gulf War (1991)

        • Invasion of Afghanistan (2001)

        • Invasion of Iraq (2003)

        • Invasion of Iran (2026)

  • BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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    17 days ago

    Reminds me of that experiment some guy did and dressed up in Mexican attire and Americans were all saying how offensive it was.

    Then he went to Mexico and asked old Mexican men and they all shrugged and couldn’t have been less offended by him.

  • CarstenBoll@feddit.dk
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    17 days ago

    I feel like most Europeans have no issue with the French, it’s an America-thing. Maybe a UK-thing.

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        16 days ago

        Their government. Fascists are everywhere. Germany, france, poland, england, turkey, romania, finland, sweden, portugal. Everywhere. and once the fat bald snake of a bear is dealt with one way or the other, oooh that will be beautiful watching them scramble without their biggest finance and supprter.

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      16 days ago

      The French are incredibly based and the trope of them surrendering immediately is ridiculous. The French resistance during WW2 was fierce. And throughout history and in current times the French don’t take shit from their government. If the French government tried even a fraction of what our (German) government is pushing through at the moment Paris would be burned to the ground. Meanwhile we (Germans) just whine and do nothing.

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          As another fellow german, i admire way more. We germans have lots to learn from french culture. From treating meal times and food as something to be celebrated and not a neccessary annoying task. Their local empathy without tearing others down. The joy of life and less complaining about small minor things while ignoring how good we got it. Their protest and workers-unity culture though is on top of the list. If we had that, Mr. Burns would have never gotten into office, a curtain brown party made in russia wouldnt be so populare, and so many social problems we wouldnt have rn.

          Also the french goal for european independence and self reliance.

          But the french nuclear power kink can stay in france

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      16 days ago

      It’s an American thing that has slightly spilled out to the UK through popular media.

      France has a strong track record post WW2 of consistently standing up to the USA’s wars abroad; they were one of the first to kick US nuclear bases out of their own country during the Cold War, and were their biggest Western opponent at the UN regarding the second Iraq war. Hence the continued popularity of the “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” trope in American media.

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          “You see king philipe, we have a very lucrative wine trade in gascony and the flemish like us and we like their cloth industry. You know…thinking about, my mother was the last of the house of capet. Wouldnt that make…king of france?” - Edward III probably

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          16 days ago

          Anyone in the 21st century claiming to still be sore over the Napoleonic Wars or anything pre-dating them maybe shouldn’t be taken seriously

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      17 days ago

      Italians have a tendency to hate/compare themselve to the French.

      For example: Italy scores very badly in some rankings. The first thing an Italian would do is to check if France is higher or lower than Italy. If it’s lower, they’d say “at least we beat the french”. If it’s higher they’d say “damn we even scored worse than France… terrible”.

      But I don’t think people actually hate france or the french. it’s more like a meme I think!

      Source:

      I’m italian and I don’t hate nor love the French

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Ah, no, we don’t have issues with the french, we just love hating on each other because you know, we have history. Not with the current ones which is why we have no issues, but you know, it’s entertaining.

      French can joke about how the Basque did a very early space program (terrorism), how the Germans love their soap (Nazism) and so on. We don’t have issues with each other, it’s just fuckery.

      That’s why it’s weird when Americans call french white flags… They are not allowed, also their references are about their experiences as tourists, which is like, it was probably their fault.

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    16 days ago

    Americans: You should see how racist Asian countries are!

    (Me going to Europe and hearing the wildest takes)

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    The painful 'Murican obsession with identifying as a member of a culture they have a tenuous link to, in an attempt to be interesting, is genuinely cringeworthy

    Your great grandfather was Scottish, French, Irish, Italian etc.

    Not you

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      15 days ago

      It’s obviously cringe, but I don’t think it’s some trivial thing, it’s a trauma of Colonialism. Americans don’t truly have a claim to the land they pillaged to live on. Whiteness absorbed European ethics like the borg, stripped them of a language and culture, and all they have left is getting run over by a Ford F250 in a Walmart parking lot.

      So a lot of white Americans have this near libidinal need to tie themselves to a culture they consider to be more real or substantive. I don’t think that’s a trivial desire, but insisting that you’re Italian, despite not knowing anything about the place, or claiming your great great great grandma was a Cherokee princess, or some shit… That ain’t it

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      17 days ago

      One thing doesn’t exclude the other. We have big hearts, we can hate multiple countries, including our own.