Good lord so many of you are fucked when some kid puts out a bunch more work for half the effort with some basic AI use.
Construction workers 👁️👄👁️
Living the dream
And 8 times the bugs and security breaches. We’re already seeing that shit from microslop
Everyone know I’ll have 1.23 times more bugs but 3.97 output leaving me with the delta to deliver. 87% of the time code will be best 🙄
The nonsense abstract numbers pulled out of your ass are 🧑🍳😘
And yet you seem perfectly fine with the abstract nonsense your new LLM buddies spew.
My shits is running just fine. I have SLAs and I hit em.
Don’t get called in, donn’t have outagess, work less than most 🤷♂️
I already do pretty well by being the guy who actually understands what’s happening when everyone uses AI instead and saves the day frequently with actual solutions when everyone realizes AI just wasted a week of their time.
More kids presenting AI output as actual work will only put me in a better position.
Think there is enough room for 50 of you? Agents ain’t going to replace humans. It’ll raise the bar on output and drive up the entry level. Agents will be doing a lot of the shit and low risk easy work and folks like you and I (because you are kinda correct) get bright on for more complex business needs and hitl break fix stuff.
Most in this thread can’t imagine a middle ground as they are distracted with the AI circle jerk.
AI tech professionals are quintessential “Didn’t Earn It” hires. I’ve got 15+ years of experience, i’ll be fine when the bubble pops, but the kids who rely on it to function, good luck lol.
I was around for greybeards saying they wouldn’t learn AWS. Then containers. The ultra hype machine is dying but AI she LLM are here to stay. They are a great tool when used correctly and those that don’t learn it won’t be competitive in the market. Just like the anti cloud guys.
Or is the kid fucked when he can’t function without his basic ai?
Good lord, you sound exactly like boomers while desktops became ubiquitous.
Good lord, boomer before my time. Sorry the tech is neat? Just not onboard with the ip means nothing until you want ours attitude and we’re going to cram ai down everyone’s throat until you assimilate.
Neat side effects include 2027s ram production capacity has already been spoken for.
Actually nvm speedrun economic collapse my moms generation isn’t retiring fast enough to buckle index funds
Clanker wankers when someone says n*ughty things about Daddy Thiel.
Spewing garbage faster isn’t a brag. I could put out more work if I never checked if anything was accurate.
Doing both, challenge: LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE 🤣 so many upset nerds with shitty excuses.
that kind of mindset is why so many CEOs want to replace airheads like that guy with AI
The CEO is the airhead
Holy lack of self-awareness
I work with Jira and they replaced the search with an AI. I have no choice but to use it to search through previous tickets, and it sucks.
Sometimes I try to use it to help me solve tickets, but most of its suggestions are wrong.
So I could very well do my work without AI. I could before being forced to use it.
I genuinely don’t understand how people get through their day WITH ai, I’ve experimented with integrating it, and it’s absolutely terrible. It sucks at everything beyond NLUI applications.
The most useful I’ve found it is saving me from looking up which tables data is stored in for certain security products and only because it is faster than using search engines now that they’re all useless.
AI isn’t awesome like meth though
Doesn’t give you meth mouth either ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Wasn’t that that one band that made the song for the first Shrek movie?
No that’s Smashmouth ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Bro I never started.
Ai probably wrote that question. Whole load of words, but not understanding anything.
Work paid for ChatGPT and asked us to all use it. Not a hard requirement but they were insisting we try to use it to see if it could speed up work.
I’m in a Nordic country. I haven’t had an email longer than a single paragraph. Documents are already as concise with good organization. The documentation is optimized so AI “summaries” only translates it into longer form tech bro speak. Just looking it up directly is faster.
I needed to do batch operations on database files without providing admin access. The same database we all work on. It suggested i could do so with a script. This was a flat out lie, with multiple responses hitting the same block. I felt sick about using it so i dropped it for fear of them attempting to try it with admin access.
Haven’t used it since those few prompts. Yet i get monthly emails talking about how we’re running out of credits every month. I’m guessing one of my coworkers has an AI romance…
This is my experience, but it seems polarising.
In the recent thread here about the doctolorow article an army of AI dweebs were proselytizing our great AI overlords.
I want to be open minded, and will remain so, but as yet I haven’t seen any significant clear benefits to the use of AI.
My observations are telling me it’s all emperors new clothes, but listening to the commentary of anyone not on Lemmy it would seem I am mistaken. I’m not arrogant enough to believe I’m right and everyone else is wrong, but this remains a mystery to me.
Benefits: further concentration of wealth and rapid damage to the environment.
The company I work for paid for Claude and has made it mandatory that we use it. It’s actually insane.
We also have “Code Rabbit” leaving LLM reviews on our PRs. It’s hilarious how often it completely misses the actual change and just waxes eloquent on the formatting changes that our linter enforces when we commit a change to a file that hasn’t been touched since prior to our current linter rules.
Even crazier, I’ve had a VP complain to me directly how much he hates reading LLM generated text that someone just spat out at him.
Yet here we are, still required to use it.
My favorite part of AI PR reviews is that I’ll fix one of its comments, which leads to a new comment. I fix that one and the new review suggests I actually try just doing the implementation that I started with
Damn that sucks.
In glad I’m still mostly insulated from it by sector and good old enterprise class lack of investment in modernization.
“see if it could speed up work” is at least a reasonable request. I do wonder what the rest uses it for.
Yeah the company is treating it as an “exploration” but the experiment turned into a regular sub without much scrutiny like a streaming service you forgot you had opted into the trial for.
Oh god is that how the ai companies are gonna stay afloat…
I think I’ve used Google Lens at work once, to identify an electrical component. I want to see if it can read resistor values at some point.
But, I likely wouldn’t even notice if AI stopped working.
Well, I regularly get the AI replies from Google searches, but i skip them. I am the only developer in my team who does not use AI. And sometimes I wonder if I’m the only one who can still think without crutches.
i wonder if most tech employees currently getting hired have to use alot of AI or they have experience in it?
As someone casually looking around the job market, it’s at least mentioned in so many job descriptions.
There was that ad doing the rounds last year where the position required minimum 7 years experience with OpenAI or something.
They had Google lens (machine learning) before chat gpt was released to the public (llm), so i don’t usually paint it by the same AI brush.
I’ve used it quite a few times and it works pretty well for identifying things.
I’ve had a similar problem using it though. Most of the time it’s bang on, but sometimes with really hard problems, it is confidently wrong, and returns a bunch of things that look similar but are significantly different from your picture. If you are used to it being correct and aren’t in the habit of thinking critically about its answer, it is easy to be mislead by its oracular answers.
“Would you actually be willing to give it up?”
Way ahead of you bud. Or behind, however you want to look at it. Personally I don’t think not choosing AI makes me backward, but then again I probably am a bit of a Luddite.
It all depends. One one hand, “Luddite” can have almost lazy vibes, people who “blanket distrust” anything newer than fire because they can’t be fucked learning how the 'puter/rotary telephone/wheel works. Then there’s “this whole thing is a stupid grift which sucks at everything and can fuck right off, and here are several dozen good reasons why”
Definitely the latter. The original Luddites weren’t against automation per se either.
The term Luddite got co-opted, propagandized. They’re the guys who dropped wrenches in the machinery to protest exploitation at the hands of factory owners. They’re exactly the example we need now. Modern Luddites are knocking down Flock cameras right now, and there is a lot further to go.
The OG Luddites are victims of bad press and propaganda against them. As a whole, they were less against progress in general and more against how only factory and business owners benefited from that progress, while workers got very little benefit, often instead losing their livelihoods.
often instead losing their livelihoods.
Even more severe, the owner class got the government to classify property damage as punishable by death. They were actively having the government kill Luddites who had not (at the time) even so much as injured a person.
You think lack of AI is your ally? I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t touch AI until … actually, I still haven’t touched the shit, and I don’t plan to.
“If the internet disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?”
“If electricity disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?”
“If gasoline disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?”
Yeah society eventually gets us addicted to many things for basic existence that we really should not be relying on.
I’m addicted to regular doses of non-steroidal anti-inflammation powder.
I’m glad that AI has not reached the stage of “if the internet disappeared” yet, because I work in IT and I don’t think I could get through a workday without the internet, but for AI I wouldn’t notice a difference, as all it does is transcribe my conversations, which I already do manually anyway.
Carrington Event is that guy (rugpull as Amos from The Expanse).
To those two, my answer is: Internet and electricity, no because I work in IT and my job depends on those things, though this is obviously not true for all jobs. Gasoline, yes, I could; getting to my job might be a challenge currently because I currently need to take a rail replacement bus…
lucky you, the bus probably runs on diesel
Yes, that’s probably true. It’s certainly not electric though.
I’d say more like coffee. If you drink it every day, you are addicted and legit cannot work without it. But it does keep you focused when in a crunch. As for LLMs, they does have their uses, but they do not produce quality software.
Dancing in the street, mate
I might be an exception, but I do not enjoy using AI because I find the high possibility of hallucinations and misinformation quite repulsive. It’s eerie and uncanny working with it, and I actively avoid using it apart from some development assistance. (Apart from all the ethical and environmental issues which are off-putting too)
