Kind of inevitable when they worship a god who is supposedly always right, yet evidently wrong and blatantly hypocritical. “Always right” obscures the hypocrisy, they twist themselves into knots trying to make it make sense instead of just admitting it is literal nonsense.
“That was the old covenant.”
So god was wrong then, realized it, and changed?
“Well no, you’re ignoring the context.”
Slavery and rape were socially acceptable, and omnipotent god didn’t want to rock the boat?
“We just can’t understand omnipotence.”
They somehow fail to acknowledge that if god is ALL-POWERFUL, literally anything that happens is because he chose it to happen.
“No, he gave us free will.”
If he’s all-powerful, there is no free will. He knew what we would do with it and chose to create us anyway. All of our choices are his choice. Also, what about times in the bible when god explicitly swayed someone’s mind? And why are we being punished for someone else misusing the free will?
The bible exists to normalize, even glorify, abuse.
I hope people everywhere stop tolerating death cults.
Remember when I said “We will not accept fallacies or claims without evidence”? The fallacy you just provided is called argumentum ad populum. Did you know that billions of people CAN all be wrong?
To answer your question, the bible is a useful tool for controlling the stupid masses. It’s a weapon, a cancer, aggressively pushed on us until we all choke on it.
If you’re so smart why are you 12?
I am 34. Check out my website. I wrote a song about the abuse your cult inflicted on me. https://snoopsqueak.com/
Twelve-year-olds with more intellectual integrity than you can identify the bible as a contradictory work of fiction.
Do you have any actual arguments, any specific responses to the points I have made? Or is this disconnected dumbassery all you have?
People who read Wikipedia’s list of fallacies page? We’re both in that.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction, but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history. But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to defend a bible you don’t believe in? Did you… read it? Yahweh is a death god. Check my original comment. I made very specific arguments you still have not responded to.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction
It is a relief to hear you say so.
but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history.
It’s mostly deadly bullshit and outright lies. For example, the Exodus basically didn’t happen. No global flood. No 6-day creation. No resurrection. Jesus did not invent the golden rule, nor did he live by it.
But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I was raised on it, I know much about it. Hence my criticisms. Meanwhile, all you have offered is “you bible bad” with no explanation for how my interpretation is wrong or what you think would be better.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
You need to be smart about it to deconvert people. Like, you need to understand the real stupid reasons people accept this religion, but you forgot or were never into most of it.
I was being silly, but for real even if there is an objective reality (reasonable but hard to prove) it’s going to be perceived reality that’s relevant for most human matters.
One of my all-time favorites: “no Jesus fulfilled the law so we don’t have to follow it anymore.” Oh so we can do whatever we want now, the laws are gone! Don’t worry about the ten commandments then.
Yes, lol. I don’t even understand that phrasing. He came to fulfill the old testament law? How does one fulfill commands about beating slaves? “Not one jot or tiddle will change… except all the changes I’m making. But also I’m unchanging because I’m god.” It frightens me when people assert that the bible contains no contradictions. It is a dangerous lack of critical thinking.
Jesus’s real message was “do as I say, not as I do, and maybe I’ll spare you my wrath.” And then he didn’t even say clearly what we should do. I like the golden rule. Jesus neither invented nor embodied it, he was a complete hypocrite according to the gospels.
Not one jot or tiddle will change… except all the changes I’m making. But also I’m unchanging because I’m god." It frightens me when people assert that the bible contains no contradictions. It is a dangerous lack of critical thinking.
It’s almost like the whole thing was made up by an assortment of self-appointed leaders who were trying to control other people’s behaviors.
Kind of inevitable when they worship a god who is supposedly always right, yet evidently wrong and blatantly hypocritical. “Always right” obscures the hypocrisy, they twist themselves into knots trying to make it make sense instead of just admitting it is literal nonsense.
“That was the old covenant.”
So god was wrong then, realized it, and changed?
“Well no, you’re ignoring the context.”
Slavery and rape were socially acceptable, and omnipotent god didn’t want to rock the boat?
“We just can’t understand omnipotence.”
They somehow fail to acknowledge that if god is ALL-POWERFUL, literally anything that happens is because he chose it to happen.
“No, he gave us free will.”
If he’s all-powerful, there is no free will. He knew what we would do with it and chose to create us anyway. All of our choices are his choice. Also, what about times in the bible when god explicitly swayed someone’s mind? And why are we being punished for someone else misusing the free will?
The bible exists to normalize, even glorify, abuse.
I hope people everywhere stop tolerating death cults.
“I know what my God demands of you”
But when questioned further
“God works in mysterious ways”
You’re bad at bible
No, actually you are - that & logic.
Would you like to offer any arguments?
We will not accept fallacies or claims without evidence.
No one capable of thinking critically takes the bible seriously. It is a laughably stupid book that selfish, frightened morons use to cause real harm.
Then why is it the best selling book of all time?
If you’re so smart why are you 12?
Remember when I said “We will not accept fallacies or claims without evidence”? The fallacy you just provided is called argumentum ad populum. Did you know that billions of people CAN all be wrong?
To answer your question, the bible is a useful tool for controlling the stupid masses. It’s a weapon, a cancer, aggressively pushed on us until we all choke on it.
I am 34. Check out my website. I wrote a song about the abuse your cult inflicted on me. https://snoopsqueak.com/
Twelve-year-olds with more intellectual integrity than you can identify the bible as a contradictory work of fiction.
Do you have any actual arguments, any specific responses to the points I have made? Or is this disconnected dumbassery all you have?
Man, you’re really committed. I appreciate.
E: some videos are a bit sad, I hope you get better soon
What’s my cult?
People who read Wikipedia’s list of fallacies page? We’re both in that.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction, but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history. But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to defend a bible you don’t believe in? Did you… read it? Yahweh is a death god. Check my original comment. I made very specific arguments you still have not responded to.
It is a relief to hear you say so.
It’s mostly deadly bullshit and outright lies. For example, the Exodus basically didn’t happen. No global flood. No 6-day creation. No resurrection. Jesus did not invent the golden rule, nor did he live by it.
I was raised on it, I know much about it. Hence my criticisms. Meanwhile, all you have offered is “you bible bad” with no explanation for how my interpretation is wrong or what you think would be better.
Cute. People are dying for this shit.
I don’t think I’d enjoy having a serious discussion with you
You need to be smart about it to deconvert people. Like, you need to understand the real stupid reasons people accept this religion, but you forgot or were never into most of it.
Lol is this serious? You realize that just because a lot of people believe something doesn’t automatically give it a single shred of authenticity.
Theoretical question, if Harry Potter were to eventually sell more copies, would that make it more authoritative than the bible?
Yes, the free market decides
I didn’t know reality was so malleable as to be manipulated by belief.
I was being silly, but for real even if there is an objective reality (reasonable but hard to prove) it’s going to be perceived reality that’s relevant for most human matters.
One of my all-time favorites: “no Jesus fulfilled the law so we don’t have to follow it anymore.” Oh so we can do whatever we want now, the laws are gone! Don’t worry about the ten commandments then.
Yes, lol. I don’t even understand that phrasing. He came to fulfill the old testament law? How does one fulfill commands about beating slaves? “Not one jot or tiddle will change… except all the changes I’m making. But also I’m unchanging because I’m god.” It frightens me when people assert that the bible contains no contradictions. It is a dangerous lack of critical thinking.
Jesus’s real message was “do as I say, not as I do, and maybe I’ll spare you my wrath.” And then he didn’t even say clearly what we should do. I like the golden rule. Jesus neither invented nor embodied it, he was a complete hypocrite according to the gospels.
It feels like Jesus and God are well, sepparate entities too.
It’s almost like the whole thing was made up by an assortment of self-appointed leaders who were trying to control other people’s behaviors.