• megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    13 days ago

    This has had actually been in the works for a while, it’s not like he just materialized this out of nowhere.

    But, it has been constantly getting delayed and put through “trials”. So, it actually getting implemented is good.

    The best part is seeing idiots who want any excuse to attack a DSA politician trying to argue that loose trash bags are better than dumpsters. Like, trying to make the concept of dumpsters a culture war issue is hilarious.

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      13 days ago

      Like, trying to make the concept of dumpsters a culture war issue is hilarious.

      Especially when 99% of their ‘culture war’ audience (who of course don’t live in NYC) already use trash bins and dumpsters in their everyday lives.

  • Gerowen@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Not a NYC dweller here, but what in the world constitutes a “modern” trash bin? Isn’t a bin a bin? Do the bins drive around picking up trash autonomously? Did NYC just not have them at all or something?

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      13 days ago

      not about NY, but in melbourne we have a bunch of solar powered bins that compact the waste when it gets close to full so they can fit about 3x more in it before it needs collection

      the city also has a city-wide LoRA network that they use for various sensors, so they could also easily (and cheaply) signal that they need collection

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      13 days ago

      Nope, no alleys in NYC, nowhere to put dumpsters that isn’t in the way. Not sure where these are gonna go.

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      13 days ago

      Where I am (a small provincial town in north west France) we at least nice small bins on the street. With MASSIVE GREAT BIG BINS underground where the actual rubbish goes.

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        13 days ago

        That sounds like a really good way to attract vermin of all sorts; bags will leak, break open or just otherwise be easily accessible by any critter that happens to roam by. If Ninja Turtles are anything to go by, I’m not sure I’d want those rats getting into my bags, 😛

  • Hildegard (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 days ago

    One of the other mayors was doing exactly this. Large municipal projects take time. This project, which includes large on-street municipal garbage bins, and new residential garbage cans, was started under Mamdani’s predecessor. This is an Eric Adams project that is only reaching the point of installations during Mamdani’s tenure.

    Mamdani is great and all, but he’s not the one solely responsible for every good thing that happens in NY.

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      13 days ago

      This is true and is an example of an inconvenient truth.

      But it’s also important to note that Mamdani didnt cancel the project because it was the predecessor. That’s often all too common in political leadership positions and is why it can be so bloody impossible to get long term benefits/plans to be executed.

      Spite, ego, politicking all makes for terrible leadership but it’s often what seems to be celebrated. Good on Mamdani for seeing something worth having and not needing to be the author of it just for optics

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        Is horrible when one Mayor big project is something like bike lanes and then next mayor for an opposing party came and stop all construction of expansion, or worse even destroy what had been done, so it’s opponent doesn’t get any additional credit

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          It’s so much worse as you scale up projects too. When neighbouring cities or regions need to work together it often only takes one douche canoe to torpedo the whole thing. Especially infrastructure projects and the like

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            13 days ago

            Great example: San Mateo and BART. Check out a map. They refuse to allow a station that would let BART make a giant loop around the Bay.

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              Interesting. About 7 years ago I flew into San Fran and then drove to Newark. Bart would have been a much more enjoyable experience. 10/10 would not drive that drive again at 5pm

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        13 days ago

        Mamdani is also the beneficiary of a $1.3bn windfall due to an accountancy error last year, so he has a one-time slush fund to play with, and the rest of the policies are paid for by deferring things like reducing classroom sizes to some nebulous point in the future and by one-time grants from Albany designed to shore up his standing.

        He’s not god, he’s just the wizard behind the curtain like all the others.

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      13 days ago

      I think this is true of any political ribbon cutting. Nixon took a victory lap for the moon landings. The issue is when politicians don’t want to hand over something then nothing gets done.

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      13 days ago

      large municipal projects take time

      I think Mamdani has been working tirelessly to dispel this notion.

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    13 days ago

    Has NYC finally quit it with their stupid idea of just letting trash bags sit on the street? This is something that basically every other city in the world has figured out.

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      13 days ago

      I left NYC many years ago. I was still young when i had to leave. But I remember how dirty it was. I recently went back. It still is dirty. It’s by design. Sometimes the only trash bags I’d see get picked up by the city were the ones the homeless taped together over the sewer/ subway to make vents so the hot air could reach into people’s "tents’.

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        13 days ago

        I haven’t been to Japan, but from what I hear, it’s not the kind of place where you’re going to find piles of trash bags on the street.

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          Well that’s how trash pickup is done all across the country. Clear plastic bags (usually you have to purchase them specific to each ward and each trash type) on the footpath a few times a week. Usually gone by lunch time. Apartment buildings can end up with huge piles of them. The crows love picking apart the bags and spreading trash about.

          Japan really isn’t some mythical cleanly place and I’ve no idea how they managed to get that stereotype. I’ve seen fly tipping, piss jugs, trash along the motorways, riverbanks covered in empty drink bottles. Its the same as anywhere else.

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          I have been there. You do. If you are actually interested in learning about it, look up how there deposal system works and maybe visit e.g. Tokyo once. Tokyo can be nasty.

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              Well Tokyo is huge. But e.g. shibuya isn’t that niche and I walked on a sticky ground through broken glass there.

              Tokyo is mostly clean. I am not saying that it is dirty.

              I am saying, in Japan, seeing trash bag on the street is not usual (for collection usually) and e.g. Tokyo CAN be nasty.

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    Not to rain on everyone’s parade, but this is not Mamdani’s initiative, though of course he is making the correct choice in continuing it.

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    13 days ago

    If public anything is socialist, then every nation on Earth has always been and is socialist.

    I think that’s a little too broad of a definition, but I’m not a political scientist.

    p.s. NYC always stank like garbage and urine in summer, nice to see some progress. Maybe weld a urinal onto the new garbage bins?

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      So I haven’t been able to figure out where I fit because the classifications are too broad and don’t fit a modern society anyway. I mean half the shit we argue about (capitalism, socialism, communism) seems to my uneducated eye to be economic systems, not political systems, so i get severely confused when people talk about them like political systems. Why can’t we have democratic communism for example?

      Again, I haven’t taken a political science course, but I don’t see an inherent contradiction in calling myself a democratic libertarian communist. People should be free to do as they please with some perhaps common good exceptions, but the means of production should be controlled by the people by way of voting. That doesn’t seem contradictory.

      But you tell that to someone who studies this more seriously and they look like I’ve grown three heads. I don’t get it TBH.

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        I would argue that “democratic” and “libertarian” are inherently at odds, but otherwise agree (and believe most people do)

  • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it
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    What make them modern?

    They can only be accessed with a keycard by building staff or sanitation workers, adding a layer of control that city officials say will reduce mess and illegal dumping.

    No dumpster diving in NYC.

    PS: so New York would have whole-ass bags of trash sitting in the sun in the summer? Putrefying? Damn.

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      13 days ago

      Under rules like the New York State Food Donation and Food Scraps Recovery Law, major commercial food waste generators must separate and recycle or donate their food scraps instead of trashing them.

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      13 days ago

      It’s still a real health hazard. Stopping dumpster diving is not inherently bad, the bad thing is what causes people to need to dumpster dive in the first place.