No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards for the next 70 years and counting. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.
Murder? Of slave owners? Yeah, that is often required for freedom. Do slavers really count as human enough for it to count as murder? Self-defense at worst.
and genocide
What “genocide” would that be?
Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops
Right back at you, I’m not the one defending a slaver theocracy.
Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US.
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theorcracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
I don’t care which boot smells better
Complete lie, you love it when the boot smells like this:
Hey good news you’re now free. You better stop having your religion, your language, or your culture. Otherwise we will throw you in the skeleton river bone pile. Please say thank you or you guessed it bone pile.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves? Just a thought, you won’t get it though
Lol none of those things are remotely true. Tibetans are free to practice Buddhism and the vast majority speak their own language, as they were taught in public schools.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves?
That’s a good thought, you should try it sometime. Which makes me wonder, again, why you’re still bearing a grudge over a slaver theocracy being ended 70 years ago.
Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
I grew up in the South hearing all about the evil big government yankees destroying our culture and way of life (“an entire civilization, Gone With the Wind”), trying to force everybody to obey the central authority in Washington - nevermind how the states treated people, that’s their business, we don’t need big government coming in and “meddling in our affairs.” The labor conditions in the factories up north were pretty bad too, so “both sides.”
Take all those arguments, go to the other side of the world, and couch them in leftist terminology like “imperialism” and “colonialism,” and you’ve got liberals with Tibet. Can’t talk sense into them anymore than you can talk sense into a redneck whining about Lost Cause shit. Keep people in chains and call anyone who tries to break those chains an authoritarian, as if the “rights” of states to oppress people matter more than rights of people to be free. It’s literally the exact same playbook.
“Tankie” is just how “big government liberal” translates to a different demographic.
No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards for the next 70 years and counting. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.
There is absolutely no equivalence whatsoever.
Is murder and genocide what we call freedom these days?
Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops
Murder? Of slave owners? Yeah, that is often required for freedom. Do slavers really count as human enough for it to count as murder? Self-defense at worst.
What “genocide” would that be?
Right back at you, I’m not the one defending a slaver theocracy.
Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theorcracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
Complete lie, you love it when the boot smells like this:
Hey good news you’re now free. You better stop having your religion, your language, or your culture. Otherwise we will throw you in the skeleton river bone pile. Please say thank you or you guessed it bone pile.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves? Just a thought, you won’t get it though
Lol none of those things are remotely true. Tibetans are free to practice Buddhism and the vast majority speak their own language, as they were taught in public schools.
That’s a good thought, you should try it sometime. Which makes me wonder, again, why you’re still bearing a grudge over a slaver theocracy being ended 70 years ago.
Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
Imagine how they are feeling arguing with you, making up crazy imaginary scenarios in your head and refusing to explain them.
Lmao, I didn’t engage with their nonsense arguements and that prompted them to make up more. It was entertaining to say the least.
A better equivalent is arguing with a flat earther. There’s no point since they start with a preconceived notion
Par for the course.
I grew up in the South hearing all about the evil big government yankees destroying our culture and way of life (“an entire civilization, Gone With the Wind”), trying to force everybody to obey the central authority in Washington - nevermind how the states treated people, that’s their business, we don’t need big government coming in and “meddling in our affairs.” The labor conditions in the factories up north were pretty bad too, so “both sides.”
Take all those arguments, go to the other side of the world, and couch them in leftist terminology like “imperialism” and “colonialism,” and you’ve got liberals with Tibet. Can’t talk sense into them anymore than you can talk sense into a redneck whining about Lost Cause shit. Keep people in chains and call anyone who tries to break those chains an authoritarian, as if the “rights” of states to oppress people matter more than rights of people to be free. It’s literally the exact same playbook.
“Tankie” is just how “big government liberal” translates to a different demographic.