• jama211@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      “Project 2025 is fine because democrats aren’t great” - that’s what you sound like. You can hate FPTP and fight to get rid of it, once you’ve turfed the fascists out.

      • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        You can get rid of it by voting for corporate stooges who love it?

        This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.

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          This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.

          You do though - and you have less power again if you let fascists come in and take away even that. Your defeatism is pure stupidity.

        • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          You’re an idiot if you don’t vote, you’re a robot if you do, you can’t win either way.

          By not voting, you’re giving up your rights before you’ve even lost them, all cause you’ve convinced yourself that you’re gonna lose anyway

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      6 days ago

      I don’t understand Americans, there must be appetite for a third option and yet whenever a third option is presented virtually no one votes for them.

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        American voting behavior is entirely controlled by the media and their oligarch owners. Americans believe so thoroughly in the myth of their free press that they outsource their political analysis to whatever media outlet triggers their specific fears/hatreds/desires.

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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        6 days ago

        Because of the way our voting system works, voting for a third party usually votes against the voters interests.

        For example…the 2000 Election was a huge hubbabaloo over the voting results from Florida…was a very narrow margin between Democrat and Environmentalist Al Gore, and Republican George W. Bush.

        Ralph Nader also ran for the Green Party, one of the larger and more well-known third parties. Green is very left, and very environmentalist.

        Nader didn’t get very many votes…but he did get enough that had like half of those voters just voted for Gore, Gore would’ve won the state and thus the election, and the world would be a much cooler place today.

        I’m certain that if we had a preferential/ranked-choice voting system, the runoff process would’ve revealed Gore as a very clear winner.

        But instead…we got George W. Bush.

      • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
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        The voting system is fucked. It’s not called a two-party system for fun, but because systematically that’s what happens with a first-past-the-post system. It’s the spoiler effect.