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The best part is these idiots are economically drowning and they’re still just shrugging.
Americans are too self-centered to care about little things like, oh, what kind of world we’re going to be.
FYI, most non-US citizens of Lemmy wants US citizens to fight and die to secure the marginally better rights they have but didn’t have to fight for because it was won by their ancestors who were weighting them against must grimer fates. They know they wouldn’t risk death in the same situation. However, they think we are stupid enough to get bullied into it by them.
They will also do exactly nothing to help and will provide no useful suggestions. If it is any consolation, the US is large and influencial enough that we will all go down together.
If by “self-centered” you mean working class people just trying to survive while we have no control over what the wealthy people do above us to keep crushing us down, then ok.
Something being written down in a planning document doesn’t exactly make it precedented. Or am I misunderstanding something?
Outside of a law court, the meaning can be exactly that.
Fair, but Mein Kampf was a historical precedent.
from a guy paying for twitter, eh?
I am amazed every day that people willingly use a Nazi website.
It’s on Threads
Smart people didn’t shrug, they voted against it. Idiots and republicans shrugged and let this happen.
My partner’s parents when we explained some of Project 2025 to them:
Oh, Trump wouldn’t do all that. You know, he used to be a Democrat.
Yep, that’s the idiot segment.
“if you read project 2025…”? The faq makes you think maga voters can read? How were they to know?
Hitler wrote what he is going to do. People didn’t take him serious and everyone thought oh I get an advantage. Oh this doesn’t happen to me. Later when it happened to them it was too late as the people who it didn’t happen to didn’t wanted to help because it didn’t happened to them.
Churchill took him very seriously after having read it, and it served him well in the long run.
Conservatives (Germany ca. 1933): Hitler will only throw the enemies of the German people in jail, so I’m safe. Gestapo, some time later at their door: Hallo. Conservatives: Oh no, who could have seen this coming?
Moral of the story: The leopard bites every face.
Conservatives (Germany 2026):
“You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth”
The only egregious part of the carnival is that people think the shit show will end once trump dies.
He is just a puppet mouthpiece and clown face of the hidden puppet masters who are hiding behind his megalomania.
Trump didn’t win, he was put there because he was useful to the real people in power, even if he doesn’t know it himself.
Democrats still be gaslighting people who did not want to vote for their 5000th corporate stooge.
“Project 2025 is fine because democrats aren’t great” - that’s what you sound like. You can hate FPTP and fight to get rid of it, once you’ve turfed the fascists out.
You can get rid of it by voting for corporate stooges who love it?
This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.
This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.
You do though - and you have less power again if you let fascists come in and take away even that. Your defeatism is pure stupidity.
You’re an idiot if you don’t vote, you’re a robot if you do, you can’t win either way.
By not voting, you’re giving up your rights before you’ve even lost them, all cause you’ve convinced yourself that you’re gonna lose anyway
I don’t understand Americans, there must be appetite for a third option and yet whenever a third option is presented virtually no one votes for them.
Yeah, clearly you do not understand the basics of our electoral system.
American voting behavior is entirely controlled by the media and their oligarch owners. Americans believe so thoroughly in the myth of their free press that they outsource their political analysis to whatever media outlet triggers their specific fears/hatreds/desires.
Because of the way our voting system works, voting for a third party usually votes against the voters interests.
For example…the 2000 Election was a huge hubbabaloo over the voting results from Florida…was a very narrow margin between Democrat and Environmentalist Al Gore, and Republican George W. Bush.
Ralph Nader also ran for the Green Party, one of the larger and more well-known third parties. Green is very left, and very environmentalist.
Nader didn’t get very many votes…but he did get enough that had like half of those voters just voted for Gore, Gore would’ve won the state and thus the election, and the world would be a much cooler place today.
I’m certain that if we had a preferential/ranked-choice voting system, the runoff process would’ve revealed Gore as a very clear winner.
But instead…we got George W. Bush.
The voting system is fucked. It’s not called a two-party system for fun, but because systematically that’s what happens with a first-past-the-post system. It’s the spoiler effect.
Trump: We’re going to do project 2025.
Trump: It’s a good plan but we might have to workshop some things
Trump: I’ve never heard of it before in my life
Media: He’s never heard of it before in his life.
Really sucks that the us right wing has no opposition to speak of
Don’t worry, they have the center right wing to keep them in check.
Sure they do, there’s the slightly more and slightly less right wing.
Well that’s what we are trying to change with these progressive candidates coming through into the midterms :)
people really still fall for this 🥲
Then your concern is not unique to the USA
It definitely isn’t 😔
i mean there may be some merit, because the DNC is fighting these progressives far harder then the ever fought the republicans or trump. even after they already won.
the good news is that none of this seems to matter at all somehow. people carry on with their lifes as if nothing bad is happening. what the actual fuck.
Empire rise, empire fall
What comes next?
Socialism or barbarism.
Same with COVID. Millions dead and no one gives a fuck except to unjustly accuse Fauci
At least we have conversations now akin to “Remember how much better life was during COVID?”
Who the fuck says that. I had to support my whole family with no daycare. I will destroy whoever says that.
yah just avoid all the food that give you ecoli…
And cyclospora.
Lemmy is gaining traction.
Mhyeah, but that’s unrelated
Project 2025 was just the latest iteration whereby they redrafted their schemes.
This was all outlined back in 1971 at the Business Roundtable that made the long game to overthrow the republic in all but name that has led us here.
Huh so that’s WTF happened in 1971
Would you mind sourcing a link or giving me some good search keywords? Our tech overlords are making searching for this not a lot of fun.
I think they are referring to the Powell Memo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_F._Powell_Jr.#Powell_Memorandum_(1971)
This video connects some more of the dots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgYkde3o2Xw
The only political thing in that regard I remember is the Citizens’ Commission to Investigate the FBI. The business roundtable was created 1972 so maybe they are referring to a previous organization? However the Business roundtable has a wikipedia entry that’s already grim
Since 2021 I can’t find all sorts of articles I had previously. Even with the publication, date of publication, name of title, and author name, in articles I effortlessly found prior to 2021. I feel like I am the only one angry about all of this sometimes.
I learned a lot from the guys on collapse on the big social media group reddick there. I can try to find a link but idk about the details I had writing on it saved on my old laptop that froze up on me.
I can’t find anything either, except a facebook post that might mention it but I am not on facebook as such and it’s not a good source. That is the only hit on the search that even pretended to find what I was looking for, the rest are purposefully not what I searched for.
I know it can work better, because it did work better. Anyway I will reply again if I find something, but if on reddick try the collapse sub and sound them out on it on an economic type post and they will give you more links that you could read.
Thanks for the pointers.
Yeah, I am infinitely frustrated by the enshitification of search on all platforms. There are some awesome videos that I can no longer find on Youtube, scientific publications that are super difficult to find now. Oddly, the CIA government site’s search still works great for declassified documents.
There is a president that tried to overthrow the elected government, is a convicted criminal, is openly corrupt and don’t get me started on what he did to children! And no one does something! It’s insane.
A couple people have tried to do something.
