• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    There is a president that tried to overthrow the elected government, is a convicted criminal, is openly corrupt and don’t get me started on what he did to children! And no one does something! It’s insane.

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    2 months ago

    For a while there Donnie tried to play it off like he had no idea was 2025 was and hand no interest in it. For some reason some people actually bought it.

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      2 months ago

      Trump is just a puppet to distract from the Project 2025 and Techno Libertarian assholes behind the scenes. They put him on the ticket because the Idiot Cult is easy votes. He agreed because it meant staying out of jail.

      The real tell, is if in Jan, they immidiately turn on him and install True Believer™ Vance as the new President. Then they can just manipulate everything to 10 years of perfrct Christo fascism.

      Except the world economy will likely collapse before that.

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          2 months ago

          And also the truth too. Like he said that he is going to take away the rights of certain others to vote, who in the past have done so “incorrectly”, and he said that he will run again for a third term. I believe he is genuine about both of those.

    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      For a while Biden pretended not to know he was alive, in order to completely support and supply an active genocide. Death to America.

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    2 months ago

    But remember that bOtH sIdEs SaMe, at least according to some. Sorry, I know it’s heartbreaking to keep saying that, but it’s true (that people say that). Some people say things that are going to legitimately get millions (billions even?) of people killed, and entire nations (already) toppled. Just so we can eventually become more open to becoming “communist” like… (checks notes) North Korea.

    Mind you, I doubt that they actually believe it, but they do keep saying it nonetheless.

    I am reminded that a deer freezing upon being confronted with headlights is actually a somewhat decent evolutionary strategy: moving would draw immediate attention to them, especially against a backdrop that they can blend into. And if they get caught and eaten well… at that point it was basically inevitable anyway, so some slim chance at avoiding that gruesome end is better than an even tinier, basically non-existent one.

    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Which side is anti genocide in the middle east? Which side is anti war?

      Your foreign policy is uniparty, and it features exclusively death and destruction of millions of civilians.

      Death to America.

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        Which side is anti genocide in the middle east? Which side is anti war?

        Good point, let’s reelect the convicted rapist pedophile

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      It is true that people say it, but it’s far more true that they are such a trivial number of people that like North Korea that the fact that they come up so frequently in these conversations feels like such a misplace of energy.

      If you want to criticized someone for being deer in the headlights of project 2025, maybe consider the democratic establishment, that watched idly by while republicans broke norms, and arguably laws, to pack the supreme court. Inventing new conventions for reasons why they can’t cede a single seat as the unelected body of supreme rule found radical new ways to insert themselves into established law.

      All while keeping the facade that the courts are a neutral body that simply arbitrates, and that their decisions are in good faith.

  • lobut@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    All of this is very easy when you accept the Americans are fucking morons.

  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Trump: We’re going to do project 2025.

    Trump: It’s a good plan but we might have to workshop some things

    Trump: I’ve never heard of it before in my life

    Media: He’s never heard of it before in his life.

  • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    When I showed people they were like “is this real?” And I showed them it was being hosted by Wikipedia but most of them still thought it was fake

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    2 months ago

    Kamala Harris stated that while she anticipated many of Donald Trump’s presidential actions, she was deeply surprised by the widespread “capitulation” of institutions, lawmakers, and corporate leaders who failed to act as guardians of democracy.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t understand Americans, there must be appetite for a third option and yet whenever a third option is presented virtually no one votes for them.

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        American voting behavior is entirely controlled by the media and their oligarch owners. Americans believe so thoroughly in the myth of their free press that they outsource their political analysis to whatever media outlet triggers their specific fears/hatreds/desires.

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        2 months ago

        Because of the way our voting system works, voting for a third party usually votes against the voters interests.

        For example…the 2000 Election was a huge hubbabaloo over the voting results from Florida…was a very narrow margin between Democrat and Environmentalist Al Gore, and Republican George W. Bush.

        Ralph Nader also ran for the Green Party, one of the larger and more well-known third parties. Green is very left, and very environmentalist.

        Nader didn’t get very many votes…but he did get enough that had like half of those voters just voted for Gore, Gore would’ve won the state and thus the election, and the world would be a much cooler place today.

        I’m certain that if we had a preferential/ranked-choice voting system, the runoff process would’ve revealed Gore as a very clear winner.

        But instead…we got George W. Bush.

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        2 months ago

        The voting system is fucked. It’s not called a two-party system for fun, but because systematically that’s what happens with a first-past-the-post system. It’s the spoiler effect.

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      2 months ago

      “Project 2025 is fine because democrats aren’t great” - that’s what you sound like. You can hate FPTP and fight to get rid of it, once you’ve turfed the fascists out.

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        2 months ago

        You can get rid of it by voting for corporate stooges who love it?

        This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.

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          You’re an idiot if you don’t vote, you’re a robot if you do, you can’t win either way.

          By not voting, you’re giving up your rights before you’ve even lost them, all cause you’ve convinced yourself that you’re gonna lose anyway

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          2 months ago

          This entire idea is based on a false premise that you somehow hold any political power AFTER voting.

          You do though - and you have less power again if you let fascists come in and take away even that. Your defeatism is pure stupidity.

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    2 months ago

    Project 2025 was just the latest iteration whereby they redrafted their schemes.

    This was all outlined back in 1971 at the Business Roundtable that made the long game to overthrow the republic in all but name that has led us here.

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      2 months ago

      Would you mind sourcing a link or giving me some good search keywords? Our tech overlords are making searching for this not a lot of fun.

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        The only political thing in that regard I remember is the Citizens’ Commission to Investigate the FBI. The business roundtable was created 1972 so maybe they are referring to a previous organization? However the Business roundtable has a wikipedia entry that’s already grim

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        Since 2021 I can’t find all sorts of articles I had previously. Even with the publication, date of publication, name of title, and author name, in articles I effortlessly found prior to 2021. I feel like I am the only one angry about all of this sometimes.

        I learned a lot from the guys on collapse on the big social media group reddick there. I can try to find a link but idk about the details I had writing on it saved on my old laptop that froze up on me.

        I can’t find anything either, except a facebook post that might mention it but I am not on facebook as such and it’s not a good source. That is the only hit on the search that even pretended to find what I was looking for, the rest are purposefully not what I searched for.

        I know it can work better, because it did work better. Anyway I will reply again if I find something, but if on reddick try the collapse sub and sound them out on it on an economic type post and they will give you more links that you could read.

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          Thanks for the pointers.

          Yeah, I am infinitely frustrated by the enshitification of search on all platforms. There are some awesome videos that I can no longer find on Youtube, scientific publications that are super difficult to find now. Oddly, the CIA government site’s search still works great for declassified documents.

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    “But he said he didnt know about/disavowed Project 2025… how can he be following it so closely?!” - Typical conservative voter, who will absolutely, despite their outrage, vote again on an illegal third term

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    That’s why they destroy education. That’s why they like the small-minded people. And that’s why they like AI so much. They need something to do the thinking for them, but they can’t afford it to be people…

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      Wait until they find out AI doesn’t do any thinking and just regurgitates what it was trained on…oh hey yeah they’re gonna love it!

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        And the poorly educated love him back

        Because he tells them that their racism, bigotry and stupidity make them better than the people they are afraid of

        Their betters.

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    2 months ago

    the good news is that none of this seems to matter at all somehow. people carry on with their lifes as if nothing bad is happening. what the actual fuck.