No he’ll vote for trump again if he could. Rural people are brain dead
In the name of probably quite a few rural people: fuck you
As a different rural person, you completely miss the point. I agree with them, fuck rural people.
Am rural, not brain dead enough to vote right wing
I bet that if he watches FOX News for a few hours a day, he’ll come back to understanding all his personal hardship is necessary so that Trump can protect him from the libs, the worst of the worst immigrants and, to quote Darlene Graham Nordone, Boys in girls’ sports.
Very few people voted for Trump to bring the cost of eggs down. They voted for Trump for permission to do that sweet, sweet racism.
s…so he’s saying it wasnt worth getting poor and broken just to pown the dems? like maybe his best interests in his vote were a little off?
He rapes children, that’s where every “debate” with a trump supporter begins and ends with me lol. Fuck beed prices or foreign policy, trump belongs in a cage where he can no longer hurt children, period.
I remember reading a modern Captain America comic set in the WW2 era. The Red Skull, Hitler’s top agent, is planning his escape from the inevitable fall of the Nazi regime. The Skull blames Hitler personally, but is still 100% committed to the cause. The Skull has enough gold to live like a king forever, but he’s planning on using it to start the next Reich.
Only took him 10 years to figure it out
Posts like this were popular when Trump lost, but look at where we are now. His supporters will hop right back on again and again.
Only because it affects him directly
Well yes, but at this point the percentage of people he has not impacted directly is tiny. So indeed losing the room.
Plus goldfish memory ensures it won’t stick
The older I get, the more it becomes apparent that the primary political distinction between people is how many degrees of separation from themselves they care about people. The more you care about people barely connected to you at all, the more progressive you are. The more your scope of concern for people is limited to people in your immediately sphere, the more conservative you are.
It is not always selfishness that sways conservatives. They can care genuinely and deeply for their family, friends, colleagues, and community. But that is typically as far as that scope of concern goes. They can take on more progressive political positions or make limited exceptions when their lifelong regressive politics suddenly negatively affects themselves or those close to them. But it will still be limited to those in their bubble. They will not care that their politics has the same effect on someone else’s family until it happens to their’s. It’s a genuine character flaw. They are incapable of general altruism.
Observed the same, mostly agree. Many hold bigoted “one of the good ones” attitude, never an ally for people outside their circle.
in-groups and out-groups
There are 2 types of people, those who think might makes right and those who think consent makes right. The might-makes-right type form rigid hiearchies and well defined in-groups and the group leaders are always working to shrink the group and demonstrate status.
Right but I think that that particular strategy just plays on that character flaw. Consevatives care about very few poeple, and if you can manipulate who those poeple are that they care about, and concentrate the types of people they care about, you can control WHAT they care about.
Progressives are also susceptible to in-group/out-group manipulation too. But our out-groups are those who oppress or disenfranchise others. So you would manipulate us by convincing us that that is happening when it isn’t. Sound like a familiar argument?
Game theory and Contractualist ethical theories should be compulsorily taught in high school. Then you’re not too dependent on empathy or caring.
Liberals will agree with this but still reject communism.
Unfortunately, that it’s such a widespread characteristic means society can only maintain progressive institutions by figuring out a way to protect them from being considered “enemy other” by people like that. There are selfish reasons to support safety nets - treating infectious diseases in poor communities prevents transmission to wealthier communities, for example - but those reasons haven’t been sold in a way to gain traction with today’s conservatives.
They only turn when they are personally affected in a big way.
Plenty still haven’t felt that yet.
Inflation rising rapidly is starting to affect them but for most their racism is still winning out
There is nothing more powerful than hatred. Not even dwindling monies.
Typical conservatives, they don’t care about bad things happening to other people but the second it impacts their own lives, now suddenly it’s unconscionable.
Cool story bro. I have family in farm country and can drum up a dozen farmers/ranchers right the fuck now who pray before they eat and vociferously defend everything this administration is doing to defend against the libs. By right now I mean RIGHT NOW, AFTER alllllll of the pedo shit and the losing the made up war, tariffs, all of it. Does. Not. Matter.
They either won’t or can’t give up the sunk cost
For sure, but you should know that Trump is bad news without having to have your business totalled.
He’s giving the room away because he no longer needs it. He’s entrenched and he’s got his gestapo.
He is losing his rubes one by one. Who cares? These morons will support the next criminal they are told to support until they realize it personally affects them negatively.
correction: they will abstain 1 cycle, then because the democrat didn’t fix the destroyed mess Trump left America in immediately, they’ll say “well Republicans are better for the economy so…”
The average American has the memory of a goldfish evidently.
Maybe if the Democrats were demonstrably different from the Republicans, our memories would improve.
I mean Biden passed so much legislation while having a razor-thin majority senate, it was actually crazy how much he got them to agree to. Some if these builds had every single democrat vote, and 10% of Republican votes.
It’s also crazy how bad the bills are now that they can’t get the majority Republican senate to pass most of the ones proposed, and democrats are vastly voting no. Some “”“”“democrats”“”“” being like Fetterman doesn’t mean the Republicans aren’t being literally evil demons while democrats are generally trying to make things better.
Biden’s failure to prosecute Trump is a Republican position. His AG was a Republican who followed a Republican agenda. Biden’s failure to even address the SCOTUS stacking issue is a Republican position. Biden’s foreign policy deference to Israel’s interests is a Republican position, and DNC proxies from Schumer to AOC attacking progressive demands to stop arming an ongoing genocide as anti-Semitic and anti-American is Republican as fuck. Biden’s pardoning of his dip shit, openly corrupt son is so Trump-coded that I do not blame normal Americans for being fed up with both parties.
I will continue to vote 3rd party until the DNC is reformed.
I mean some of that stuff yeah, a lot of it would require violating norms though which democrats are terrified of, while Republicans just do whatever they want even if it’s clearly not what was intended, like delaying a supreme court pick until a republican is elected. Trump was being prosecuted but Americans elected him as president so all of them were dropped immediately :/ I think the Biden pardon was in preparation for Trump going after hunter with the full weight of the DOJ, but even then I don’t really approve of it.
I agree it is disappointing that democrats are so timid in that regard, but to me it’s like someone kicks a dog, and the other person says “hey don’t kick that dog wtf” but doesn’t stop them. These people aren’t the same and aren’t equally evil, and one will keep kicking the dog any time they’re elected, and the other tries to help the dog 8/10 times and kicks it 2/10 times. Just going off bills passed you can see the positions on immigration, big business, corruption, lgbtq+, everything besides Israel. One side has actual literal demons and one has people who do some things wrong.
Garland dragged his feet on Jan 6 charges, prompting Republicans who had previously voiced support for prosecuting him to regroup and change tactics, allowing the process to drag out until the election. Why did Biden appoint a GOP AG that was never going to be aggressive? It could be classified as a mistake, but it was completely foreseeable.
As for Biden’s immigration push, the bill Trump killed by telling the GOP not to support it in order to deny Biden a “win” was awful. It was everything the Republicans wanted, and Dems didn’t even include DACA protections, sacrificing immigrants once again to try to “own” the other party by demonstrating they are not interested in passing laws, something that everyone who is paying attention already understands. Biden also gave away a bunch of basic things in his environmental decisions. I mean, why allow drilling in ANWR? Who was that for? Even the things people are pointing to as a reason to have supported Biden are filled with poison.
You see a larger distinction between the parties than I do. I see republicans boiling puppies alive while Democrats stab them. Yeah, there is a difference, but not a demonstrable one.
Another thing you’re missing is James Comey publicly calling out the investigation into Hillary’s emails, which is completely improper, just so they would seem less biased to the Republicans as if they would ever not say it’s biased. It’s disgusting.
All of that being true, the Republicans are being literal actual demons. Calling trans people mentally ill women abusers and rapists, dragging American citizens out of their homes and locking them up for weeks or deporting them, they would literally make gay marriage illegal again if they could. Part of why roe v wade was reversed is because the Republicans refused to vote on Obama’s supreme court pick, which is extremely improper and denying the constitution’s intent. Massive tax cuts for billionaires (by cutting children’s cancer research WTF), canceling all ev tax credits, canceling huge solar farms, removing protections for parks and tons of other environmental protections. I could go on for hours, it’s just seriously unreal how evil they are.
Same old story. Only once they are personally impacted, then they give a shit.
Thats true to varying extents for virtually everyone.
When you’re broke and can’t afford to take a week off of work because it could mean ending up homeless you’re a lot less likely to go spend a lot of time protesting an innocent stranger being shot dead in the street than if that innocent person had been your brother.
“until it happens to affect me, i’ll shit on everyone else” - old people
