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The secret is that french isnt a culture, its a neurological disorder in a trench coat. Cigarettes arent food, wine is not a suitable substitute for water, and incest is wrong no matter how much land you want your family to own. Sorry to burst your collective bubble.
In France, the French language is not threatened, so they can afford to incorporate some English words.
In Quebec, the French language is constantly under threat from all sides, so they make efforts to stop the flow.
This isn’t rocket science folks. Nothing is more normal than protecting your own turf.
So a little historical context. The French originally started in both manatoba and Quebec. But over the years the French culture started dying out. To combat this .gov started to instill mandatory French language across the country and promote French culture.
I’d say they originally started out in France, but I don’t know much about history.
Nope, french caandians started in NA.
Is this a Mormon thing?
The most realistic possible future of the French language can be seen in shows like Star Trek and Futurama.
On niaise pas avec le francais chez nous, tokebekicitte.
Damn, didn’t expect this place to be this hostile to French Canadians. I guess it’s not much of an improvement over Reddit afterall.
My hate for the French is my only gripe with Reddit.
Anglo Canada loves you.
Right? The French hate us, they were the original separatist
You can’t separate separatists! Thing is separate me once, can’t separate me again.
I hear you québécois in the comments, you have French words we dont have and I do think it’s great. And when I watched your TV it seemed to be mostly French.
But when I listen to podcasts it’s English words in every sentence.
Same is happening I France now, but we suck at English so it doesn’t sound good. “Cette chanson est un ban-guhrr”
Also everybody started using “du coup” 10 years ago. Ainsi, donc, apres quoi, puis, car, puisque, etc… - > du coup
A friend from Kebek told me that language police showed up in her father’s work once and said that everyone has to switch their Windows to French or they will be fined. It was international company and not everyone in the office spoke French…
Some other dude was fined for displaying a sign with “welcome” written in many different languages. Only signs in French are allowed.
It’s not about promoting or protecting the languages. It’s about discriminating and punishing people that don’t conform.
What are you FUDing about?
Quebec requires both English and French displayed but won’t punish other additional languages.
That’s very interesting but eastern Germany appearing on maps again worries me.
As a west german: We should (re-)build the wall and make the Ossis pay for it.
I read that as make Oasis pay for it, not a bad idea because after all, it’d be a wonderwall.
It is the price for peace on the Balkans. Yugoslavia is united again after all. So is Czechoslovakia.
Imagine being less likeable than the French and by choice as well.
décomplexé
Duolingo only has Brazilian Portuguese
Brazil has more people than Portugal (213 million v 11 million). France has more population than Quebec (69 million (66 million for Metropolitan France) v 9 million)
Is that PFK thing true? That’s dumb af.
“My last car was a Fertile Rice Patty but I’m really looking at Modernity”
Is KFC called that in France? It’s specifically called KFC in the states and not ‘Kentucky Fried Chicken’ because the chicken is not actually from Kentucky.
Colonel Sanders was not a real Colonel, but he was in the Army. He was a cook at Fort Lewis in Washington state during WWII. To feed the massive groups of soldiers, they needed to make food faster, so they engineered up new industrial scale pressure cookers to make a huge amount of fried chicken at once. After the war he was able to get a bunch of the machines, and move back to Kentucky and start a business. The “colonel’s secret recipe” was literally just using this Army surplus tech from WWII to start a bunch of chicken restaurants. My point is, really it ought to be called Washington Fried Chicken.
The cooking style is “Kentucky Fried” not that the chickens are from Kentucky.
Yeah, it’s just the logo, no one uses the full name.
Correct, outside Kentucky it’s just “Glistening Fried Poultry”
Fun fact did you know that most French speakers are not French themselves?
The average French speaker is from one of France’s old African colonies.
Imagine losing your national identity to the people you oppressed and they don’t care about having it.
What?
99% of English speakers aren’t English. Same thing with Spanish.
They literally went from an empire where the Sun never set to be relegated to an island smaller than Michigan… and they don’t even own the whole island, they have to share it with like 3ish other governments.
It was the British Empire, not the English Empire. The union was formed partially because Scotland was flat broke from failing to colonise what’s now Panama and needed access to the English economy while England wanted to prevent a perennial French threat on its northern border.
Also Americans are in no position to speak about imperial decline at the moment! Iran has a nasty chance of becoming their Suez unless competent leadership is restored pretty sharpish in my view.
The empire was British, not English, so those other countries that the English “share” the island with were a part of that.
Okay, (funny) story time.
I’m French and live in France. Many years ago I met a girl from Quebec (Chicoutimi), and in our discussion she told me that when she arrived in France, her first night the heating was off in her flat and it was very cold. She tried to sleep in what she referred to as her “slip” (French for panties), but even though it was a Canadian slip that was very warm that she used in her cabin in Northern Canada, she was too cold to sleep.
After a good 5 minutes of thinking “that story doesn’t make sense, if she’s hitting on me it’s too obvious and weird”, she saw my confusion and asked me if I knew what a slip (panties in French) was.
It turns out she was referring to her sleep, short for sleeping bag in English. In French we use the French word “sac de couchage”. The pronunciations are identical.
So both French and Québécois has a lot of borrowed word, just not the same ones.
Slip from slipinne bague. Did you at some point offer her to meet your “gosses”
I didn’t get the part about gosses?
Gosses en France, les enfants. Gosses au Québec, les testicules.
Je suis du sud du Québec et je l’aurais pas compris. J’ai jamais entendu sleep de ma vie pour désigner un sac de couchage.
Je suis du sud du Québec et j’ai toujours entendu ça… C’est pas juste au Saguenay, en tout cas.
J’ai entendu “sleeping” très souvent, mais pas juste “sleep”. J’aurais été confus moi aussi.
Le monde est bizarre. Comme ceux qui disent coton ouaté pour désigner un kangourou. /s
kangourou
Tu parles d’un bunnyhug? J’ai encontré ce mot en Saskatcheouane
Ouais, un chandail à capuche!
So both French and Québécois
I like how you think your language is “French” and hers isn’t.
That must have been a challenge to dub. In the original Bart is speaking English, not Quebecois French. So, when Bart is speaking Quebecois French he must have really leaned into the accent to make it believable that the policeman didn’t understand.
Here’s the original for comparison:
https://youtu.be/EUSGPubsxcM?t=93
It’s funny because in the original the policeman is the only character in the scene with a decent French accent. The two criminals sound absolutely horrible.
Fair point I guess I should have said French from France or from the metropole? Pretty sure the term dialect can’t be applied here.
In France nowadays French is a relatively homogeneous because of radio and TV, but when I was a child (40 years ago) old people in the alp valley I grew up in still used the local dialect, and it is way more difficult to understand to other French than Québécois is. It’s closer to modern Italian but still far from it.
It’s pretty dead now. I only know a few sentences and child songs.
Even with radio and TV, and easier travel, there are still a lot of interesting dialects, maybe not within France itself, but Belgian French is different, so is Swiss French. Sub-Saharan African French is really interesting because it has a vocabulary that’s more similar to France French, but some of the pronunciation is more different than Quebecois French. And then there’s Haiti where they speak a Creole that has a lot of French-sounding words in it, but can’t really be understood by French speakers.
When I played Cyberpunk 2077 and realized the voodoo boys spoke creole I was totally hyped and really wanted to join them. As the missions with them are early in the game I imagined there was a possibility to choose a gang (you can’t). Because of that every time they tried to get rid of me, and you are really disposable to them, I always choose dialog lines to play it down, saying it was okay.
That made me roleplay the most naïve and dumb person of the world in a universe that really don’t call for that.
Even if you’re trying to go for something that the devs didn’t intend to be possible, those are still memorable moments in games. I like it best when devs allow for something unusual like that, but even if they don’t, a game that feels immersive enough that that might be possible is fun.
Great, now I’m imagining a warm French slip.
Love the idea of extra warm Canadian panties
Yeah I was already picturing the fur.
Ha I enjoyed that tale. What happened after?
We didn’t date but became friends. One or two years after we met, with a group of friends we went to Quebec with her and stayed at her family cabin that was very far north of Chicoutimi, near a small lake, and it was breathtaking.
There was another confusion though. She referred to going on the lake on the “ponton” (pier in French from the metropole). But we saw the lake and there was no pier on it. She was referring to the kind of boat they have to chill on the lake. It was more some kind of draft : square, flat, with a lot of room to chill and no focus on going forward, which makes sense. It looks more like a pier than a boat, it was just not on the water when she talked about it.
Ah interesting. I think that’s what we call a “pontoon” which is just a floating…platform, that you move with an oar. Well, the barrel things under it keeping it afloat are the pontoons.
Languages. Funny things.
A pontoon has two hulls (stacks of barrels). If it has three, it’s a tri-toon 🤓
How deep can this language hole take us!
We call them pontoon boats in English.
