• nednobbins@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    It has some grains of truth but it’s mingled with too much personal opinion.

    There are studies on how much water humans really need. If you want to calculate it the scientific way, you need to factor in at least lean muscle mass, total mass, surface area, ambient temperature and humidity, activity levels, and diet. There’s no magic number of ounces that’s correct for everyone.

    Fortunately we’ve evolved a really awesome mechanism. When your body needs more water, you get thirsty.

    So if you want to stay properly hydrated, drink whenever you feel even a little thirsty.

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      2 months ago

      After about 23C I swear a lot. I definitely need to replenish what I lose or I get drowsy

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      2 months ago

      Fortunately we’ve evolved a really awesome mechanism. When your body needs more water, you get thirsty.

      Yeaaahhh…About that…

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        2 months ago

        Me too. Sometimes I feel like I must get thirsty in a reasonable way, but when I actually notice the sensation is another matter. At other times I’m incessantly thirsty.

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        2 months ago

        ADHD can make you completely ignore that signal for way, way too long.

        My body also misinterprets that signal as “hunger”, and a craving for some wet food. Maybe like yogurt or a cup of pudding. You know something that just slides down easy. Yeah #thisiswhyimfat.

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          2 months ago

          Yep…
          Take my meds and of to the race on one cup of tea at the morning.
          Sometimes I will remember the bottle of water on my table in front of my monitors at work. Sometimes.

    • ironpangolin29@lemmy.caBanned
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      2 months ago

      We can seperate regions easily enough and their peak humidity seasons. You just need to factor in sedentary, semi active, active and athletic lifestyles.

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        2 months ago

        It’s possible, but the spikes and drops in metabolic rates doesn’t work for everybody. If you’re fit and healthy you can probably handle it, but many people need more steady metabolism throughout the day.

        Also, your body can only absorb so many nutrients at once. If you try packing all your daily requirements into one meal, you’re going to shit a lot of it out. You might absorb all 2000 calories or whatever, but most of the vitamins, proteins, etc. are going to get flushed down your toilet

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              2 months ago

              I worked construction around 18-19. I was a skinny kid, like 130lbs. After working all day the boss would order in food. I once ate an entire large pizza and drank a 2 liter bottle of coke.

              Now that I work from home its a lot less LOL

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                2 months ago

                TBF, at eighteen years old one can eat three large pizzas in a row and not make a dent in their weight. When I came home after a school day, I’d discover a full pan of fried potatoes and chow down half of it right at the stove.

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              2 months ago

              It wouldn’t be enough even if you use your brain slightly more than what needed to doomscroll all day

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Absolutely false. A few years ago I had to take my daughter to several doctors each in a different field.

      Each repeated one consistent fact: “By the time you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated.”

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    2 months ago

    Looked at the article, and it starts off pretty stupid

    While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.

    Some people live in areas where the water tastes bad, but seeing the water as “boring” might mean that you’re drinking too much of the other stuff (soda, juice, sugary etc). It’s not that those other things are not hydrating, but they’re unhealthy for other reasons.

    The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

    I refuse to normalize a world where people lack access to clean drinking water. 😠

    The rest of the article is pretty standard advice. There’s no set amount of water that everyone needs to drink, and your diet/lifestyle/body composition/the weather will all play a role. Going based on thirst is a good indicator, but make sure you actually drink water when you’re thirsty. !hydrohomies@lemmy.ml

    But using that to justify unequal access to clean drinking water is a big no.

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      While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.

      The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

      The combination of these two takes has to be among the dumbest things I’ve ever read, what do they think those other drinks are made of? I’m entirely certain that the process of making another drink uses up more water than just drinking that volume of water in the first place.

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      2 months ago

      The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

      All the more reason to drink fucking water!

      Holy shit, sometimes wish journalists could be disbarred but I know that would create a slew of other problems…

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          2 months ago

          I have even better - I3P. Iodine, check. No goiters here. 3, widely believed to be the next highest whole number (citation needed). Phosphorus, check. Good for flower/fruit production.

          Put it all together, you might get grapefruit sized growths, but they won’t be goiters.

          Next problem please.

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      2 months ago

      And if you’re in the subset of people who struggle to register thirst, either through perceiving it as hunger or just not registering it at all; use the pee test.

      If your last pee was yellow, drink some water. If clear or nearly clear, you’re fine.

      If brown, drink lots of water and pray to Dionysus to become hydrated before the hangover kicks in.

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        2 months ago

        Fully clear usually means stop drinking water for now. It signifies you have had a bit too much water

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      2 months ago

      too much of the other stuff

      or that you’re a shill , writing a seo prop piece knowing full well coke is a financial supporter of your “newspaper”

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        2 months ago

        And I think it’s even broader: If I’m drinking water, I’m not buying any other drinks. I’m not supporting the economy, I’m only drinking water.

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      2 months ago

      The author of the article seems to think people use water bottles because they justlike, enjoy drinking water constsntly for no reason. (Its fine if you do) Or some “misguided” advice about how much to drink daily.

      When people probably just carry them so when they are thirsty, they have something cheap and not unhealthy to drink.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Going based on thirst is a good indicator,

      After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was “going by thirst” is absolutely wrong.

      They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.

      • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        You should drink whenever you want to, or are mentally thirsty. That being said, after many years of being a child in school (water fountains tasted like drinking chalk), i had to train myself to feel thirsty again without being dehydrated. Probably a safer bet to just go by pee color or have a cup or two of water at dinner/during exercise.

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      2 months ago

      I often add some squash to water, but it barely has any sugar in it and I often go for fairly dilute. Like just a hint of berry, orange or lemon.

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    2 months ago

    From the article:

    Fortunately, your daily fluid needs can come from just about any source. Coffee and tea? Sure. Black coffee, in fact, is 99% water.

    …if you ignore the fact that caffeine is a diuretic, sure.

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    2 months ago

    I only have near a bottle of water if I am at work at 30°C or more. But maybe it’s because I’m Spanish.

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    2 months ago

    You need around 2 litres a day

    Bezos wants your water for himself

    Edit: this is WSJ not WaPo

    Wall Street* wants your water for themselves

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    2 months ago

    Except it’s completely true - rare for WSJ, I know, but not completely unheard of. The weird hype around really unnecessarily excessive water intake is “Facebook Grandma Nutrition”-level bullshit. Healthy people have a reliable, fine-tuned mechanism for figuring out when water is needed: it’s called being fucking thirsty

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        2 months ago

        over an entire day, sure. needing to carry a 1.2l container around all day seems to me overkill. carry a smaller bottle, refill it when needed, drink a glass of water with your meals etc. remember, juice, tea, coffee, coke etc are mostly water and also count towards your water intake

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      2 months ago

      Sadly that is something many people can’t rely upon. I am not that old, and have a tendency to get pretty dehydrated before i get thirsty at all. Old people are famous for getting so dehydrated that they get delirious - ask any nurse working in a hospital, they will agree that this is the case. With summer temperatures rising this will hit a lot more people of the already affected groups, and additional groups which are not sensitized yet towards that issue.

      I agree that most people do not need to drink 3 liters of water per day. But what happens is that people aim for that amount and then land somewhere around 1.5-2 liters / day, which is a pretty good amount for normal days, and they will be more alert towards their water intake on hot days, which prevents deaths.

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        2 months ago

        Thirst is something no one can rely on. This is the same information I got from multiple doctors each in different fields.

        By the time you register thirst, you are already dehydrated.

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          There is a difference between “drinking a glass of water wouldn’t hurt you” and “you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant”. Every organism on this planet can easily cope with a reduction in available water if it isn’t severe. The operating conditions of a human body, if formalized, would only state a minimum of water intake, because the optimal amount of hydration varies wildly from person to person, and it is also dependent on outside circumstances, like heavy work or high temperatures.

          During the winter months, i am completely fine with around 1 liter of fluid intake per day most of the time when sedentary. During the last 2 months, i have topped out at around 7 liters/day (i do sweat a lot), which made me a bit nervous and i made sure to increase my normally very low salt intake a bit, to prevent running out of electrolytes.

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            “you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant”

            Which is why “thirsty” as an indicator is the problem. It is your body telling you there is already a problem.

            Every organism on this planet can easily cope

            You can easily cope with all manner of problems. You can go 2 months without Vitamin C. You shouldn’t wait until you develop the first signs of scurvy before eating an orange.

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              2 months ago

              I just wanted to emphasize that optimal fluid intake is not a simple number - anyone peddling that is full of shit.

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        2 months ago

        Sure. And a huge amount of different health stuff can mess with it. But the whole “watermaxxing” thing where people lug around enough water for literal days, idk. Seems like basically a fashion accessory for people who’d like a zero effort way to do something that looks all healthy and whatnot

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      Yeah, until that mechanism isn’t working anymore, as distraction nowadays is a real issue. Too often I forget about water intake if I don’t have water next to me.

      Additionally, go ask dermatologist what they think about water intake. You can literally see differences in skin health, especially long-term damage which cannot be reversed.

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      Reposting because this is completely wrong.

      After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was “going by thirst” is absolutely wrong.

      They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.

      It was news to me because I grew up with “drink when you are thirsty”.

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    2 months ago

    Can’t find clean drinking water, just cut back… Brought to you by the ruling class who is using up and poisoning all the water.