Currently using IVPN, but considering switching and I want to see what this subreddit community thinks.
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Windscribe. I like their no-nonsense approach.
Currently, Mullvad. Waiting for my time to run out then I might give NymVPN a go.
Private Internet access, they have port forwarding
YSK Private Internet Access was acquired by a sketchy Israeli spy company
I’m aware, but they said the team and their data policies haven’t changed, unless you know another good port forwarding allowed provider I’m probably gonna stick with them
AirVPN and Windscribe are good options with port forwarding that aren’t compromised (AFAIK)
Ivpn: canary, audited, anonymous accounts purchasable with crypto or cash, no performance issues, no logs (allegedly), open source protocols and clients.
I really like their blatant honesty in “Do you really need a VPN?”
Fundamentally, the only use case of a VPN is if you trust them with your traffic more than your ISP. Since I’ve had multiple ISPs that serve up adds instead of 404s and will threaten you for using p2p protocols it’s easy to trust a VPN more. As best I can tell Ivpn is just a couple of security peeps running a VPN service cause they can–could they be corrupted or a honey pot? Yeah, but the anonymous accounts help mitigate that risk, and the reality is that even an anonymous account can be tied back to your IP. So don’t do anything illegal illegal on just a VPN and it’ll prolly be fine.
And they’re not advertised through everyone with a platform.
Considering what my ISP is I think I’d trust any vpn with a FOSS client over them…
Isn’t IVPN based in Gibraltar? 🤷♂️
It is. Which I suppose is a consideration, but being an autonomous territory they don’t have retention legislation yet. As the EU, and GB along with them (and to be honest, the rest of the developed world) tends toward mandating logs and shit that arithmetic may change. They aren’t a part of a surveillance sharing network today, and since I’m personally only using a VPN for p2p stuff this isn’t really a consideration for me personally.
Proton, because its fast and reliable in my experience so i never felt the need to switch, plus i agree with their policies.
Proton currently but probably switching to Windscribe soon due to increasingly invasive advertising.
I mean, windscribe made that one ad w/ hitler in it…
increasingly invasive advertising.
Curious about this. Like you’re using their apps and they have ads or something?
As in, I have a proton unlimited subscription and keep getting in-app advertisements for proton Duo as if I’m a free user or something?
Weird. I haven’t seen any of that since becoming paid…
I mostly see it in pass and mail
Yes, they are putting more and more upsell ads into their products. Recently I opened Proton Pass and there was an add taking up the entire little extension bubble.
Yes, they are ads about the ongoing deals and promos. It seems like you get those ads once a season or so. These aren’t the intrusive personalized ads like from Google, mind you. They are “local” product ads to increase sales and support for Proton products. They can be annoying, but also they’re not permanent.
Mullvad but the founder is a fascist so ill change that after my time runs out
Sure? He self-define anarchist
Elon musk says hes an anarchist but he did a sieg heil in front of millions watching
Despots and the elite always like to brand themselves as democratic, for the people, or whatever. Its the usual propaganda. Can’t have the peasants seeing them for what they really are.
Looks like a social networks hate campaign to me.
I’m not defending Mullvad, but this does lack more context.
What context? Only thing I can think of it was a private donation rather than made by mullvad itself
It was the co-founder, Daniel, that made the donation, the other founder, Fredrik, “did not like that he made this donation”.
Edit: I’ll include a link to Mullvad’s official response to the controversy since it’s relevant.
Fair enough
How many times does it have to be ‘discussed’ though?
lemmy has a search function, 99% of people here already know what happened with mullvad.
I’m not necessarily looking for a new discussion, I just thought it was important to clarify since it reads differently when you have more context.
I doubt those that are unaware would look much deeper into it.
it reads differently when you have more context
In what way?
As I mentioned in my other comment, there are two founders, one of which does not like the action of the other.
Lemmy does have a search function, but is it good?
https://lemmy.zip/search?q=mullvad&type=All&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false
Threads 5 and 6 are the fairly obvious relevant ones when I searched
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Same here
So now proton is ok and Mullvad is bad? I thought proton was ostracized for the same reasons?
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Disclaimer: Don’t take my response; this post, or other replies seriously.
Everyone has their own feelings. The truth is we probably don’t code, understand, and can actually look at the technologies behind vpns. We are just users. That’s not a bad thing at all (but) here’s the truth.
Our opinions on privacy tools has changed. First proton was weird and mullvad good, now its mullvad is bad and proton is good. That’s not consistent and we just have to be honest because there’s many people with different beliefs and experiences privacy recommendations will never be consistent.
Let’s actually crack open both controversies. Protons was a company the other an individual. The result to the public the same now each company can’t be trusted. Vpns are a trust me bro industry and if you can’t trust them for whatever reason then just do not use those vpns.
The answer is simple hard to swallow and honestly straight forward. Stop using commercial VPN providers and start using proxies or tor. Vpns and their tunnels where originally developed for private server access not a general tool for app and internet browsing. They’re pretty good since the tunnel itself can be hidden or obscured. However the end result is a trust within a company.
So stop trusting people and opinions even mine.
None for the time being, and I don’t know what I should use if I were to need one. I already use Proton for email so it wouldn’t be my first choice to give even more data to one company, even if they still seem good (though their marketing is relatively aggressive, which feels offputting).
AirVPN with privacy focus and port forwarding
Heck yeah! I’ve been using them for about a year now. I’m happily going to pay for another year.
Airvpn actually looks really good even though I’ve never heard of them. Cheap, has all the features I need and they have existed for a long time.
There are literally dozens of us!!!
In all seriousness tho, I like the fact that Eddie supports amnezia wireguard.
AirVPN. I switched from proton a while ago because it was a pain to do port forwarding. AirVPN lets me have multiple ports forwarding with ease. And they take xmr as payment!
What was a part of it was a pain, exactly? I use port forwarding and have no issues.
There wasn’t a clear/easy way to do it on a headless server. Maybe they’ve improved the service since
Any reason you are looking to leave ivpn? I’m using Mullvad until my time runs out and then switching due to the fascism thing. I was looking at ivpn as one of a few possible options, so I’m curious of people’s experiences.
IVPN is smaller than mullvad so mullvad has more support in the form of more 3rd party packages. With the fascism thing I feel like just because the owner is problematic doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use the service, otherwise by far the majority of small and medium sized services would be unusable.
Problem is that I now know for sure that by giving him money, that money is going to organizations that promote fascism. So, while I can’t control where people spend their money, incan control how much of my money goes into their bank accounts. Same reason I would refuse to pay for anything Harry Potter. I know the money I would spend will go to royalties that JK Rowling will then give to organizations that spread misinformation about trans people or outright tell people that attacking women who even look too masculine, like Imane Khelif, is not only OK, but virtuous.
But since I already gave them my money, I’m not going to abandon what I paid for. In fact, if I did that, I’d be effectively giving them more money as they’d have less traffic to route that was already paid for.
I am only giving them ~$5 a month, and I know every dollar counts, but a few 100k donations won’t cause the rise of fascism, it will be poor societal conditions and charismatic leaders telling the populace that those issues are caused by minorities.
Yeah, but if everyone says that then it adds up. Just like when so many people don’t vote because their singular vote doesn’t really count, but when a lot of people say that, it adds up. And it’s not like there aren’t alternatives that likely don’t fund fascism, so why use one that I know for sure does, even if indirectly. I can’t punish him, but I can take my few cents a month away from fascism and spend it on a more reputable company that doesn’t keep around a known fascist.
I am not voting for that party after all, and choosing the best software for privacy is worth giving a few dollars to a fascist IMO. Yes, I checked that parties policies, and I disagree with (nearly) all their social policies (Racism AND Secularism!? Gross!), so don’t accuse me of sympathizing with them.
If you don’t see the value in defending fascism, especially in an age where elections are often won by the party with the most money since they can control the media coverage, then I can’t help you. I can’t teach you to empathize with the people who they will murder if in power. I’m one of them, but guessing you’re not.
Mullvad, then switched to IVPN a couple of months ago. Both are recommended in privacyguides. They have solid privacy policies and are regularly audited.
I switched from Mullvad to IVPN after the Mullvad troubles. IVPN seems good to so far, does everything I need and hasn’t been proven untrustworthy/politically dodgy yet.
Mullvad troubles
what troubles?
One of the founders bankrolled a far right party, allowing them to field candidates and they say that “Sweden is for the swedes” and want to forcibly deport anyone who is not. Kinda like that small mustache guy in the 40s in Germany.
https://korben.info/en/mullvad-cofounder-funding-far-right.html
I need to bookmark my comment from a while back as an explainer lol
I just today started using the new Tor VPN app. I have been using InviZible from F-Droid in SOCKS proxy mode for almost 2 years now, but not all apps support directing their network traffic through a SOX proxy. And so, some apps I was not able to do over Tor. I think the day will come where we as free people have to abandon the clear net entirely and do everything over Tor and I2P. The clearnet is going to become nothing except for ID upload verification screens.
