“If you ignore the fact that it is evil, it’s not that evil!”
If you set aside all the ethical concerns…
I mean who can argue with results?
No one, since they all died from the neurotoxin.
I literally did that while talking to an AI about a theoretical, realistic, humanized mouse brain that can learn, running at x1000 speed.
Emperor of rat kind in no time.
when people attempt to justify consuming animal products.
Sure, it may be morally abhorrent, unhealthy and environmentally destructive, but I get a few minutes of pleasure off of it!
They don’t set those concerns aside; they do mental gymnastics.
You’re giving those animals a life and a good death! All things die. Ackchually plants signal an alert too. They don’t suffer or love like we do. God said it’s OK. I buy fair trade lamb. Not until capitalism is over. It’s our culture.
Those are reasons, but they’re not good reasons. People are just too comfortable going with what they’ve known their whole lives, and changing takes effort, which they’re too lazy and scared to do. So they just keep going along, possibly thinking less than the cattle they’re consuming.
Though I’d also argue you can consume animals in a “morally good way” if you shoot them in the forest or raise them with all the love, so they have only that “one bad day”. That of course requires denying the idea that humans can be morally above nature and be responsible of not making choices that cause harm to other creatures because of the ability to have awareness of the choice. But that thinking is internally consistent; is it right is the question
I simply prefer it over starving.
Are you adding to the meme excuses or genuinely think this is a good excuse? Because I have two answers depending on your intention.
Option 1: good one.
Option 2: Do you live in the Arctic or somewhere where plants don’t grow? No vegan who’s serious about this has ever starved. There are entire cultures and religions that are plant based and their choice of food has never starved them.
No, I’m dirt poor, tried to sneak in a vegan diet for other reasons, it backfired in my face horribly.
I am just that selfish, that I would rather eat an animal to have enough strength than starve.
Hate all you want.
I don’t think it’s black and white so I’m not hating, but the cultures I mentioned are already some of the poorest in the world so the cost shouldn’t be a factor. It definitely requires huge adjustments in thinking and approach to food. I know it took me something like three years to be fully comfortable with eating 99% plant based. Like I said, if you’re serious about it, I think you can do it.
Any person who has ever told me to ‘think with your head and not your heart’ has always - without exception - turned out to be a major asshole who does a lot of harm to themselves and those around them.
It’s funny, I have very successful friends who used to say something similar. As one put it: “If you sell out at 20, you got no heart. If you haven’t sold out by 30, you got no head.”
That friend group are a great bunch of guys in their personal lives, family men and good providers, down to the last one. At the same time, they are 100% part of the problem. They are landlords and marketing execs. And every one of them has an exceptionally high EQ. (Except Jake. He’s my favorite and he fixes industrial baking equipment. Used to be a bartender. You know the type - staring daggers when you interrupt his conversation with a regular customer. Jake didn’t GAF about EQ.)
Anyway, it’s not that they are evil. They are just the “normal” amount of selfish. They have comfortable lives. They read their newsfeeds without ever thinking any deeper. They aren’t the Nazis - they are the people who empower Nazis by remaining laser-focused on their job and their family, ignoring politics unless their property tax is at stake.
I think it’s possible to be a good husband and an overall good person, but not a good citizen. Zombies, if you will.
and an overall good person
I know this is semantics, but I would not call them “good”. Jake is a good person. The rest are “decent”
‘think with your head and not your heart’
A variation of it, “okay, but do you really need it?” is used in regular rotation in our household. There’s nothing wrong with the saying when used as, “take some time to reflect before making rash decisions”. Though one could argue reflection still takes feelings into account, not putting it aside entirely.
And that RTX 4090 would’ve been pretty sweet. But she’s right, playing my games on ‘low’ doesn’t take away my enjoyment from a game that’s actually good.
It’s more that those people are saying “what maximises personal returns in this moment is more important than worrying about how it will affect others.”
For example, laying off a few thousand employees might leave those real human beings stranded BUT you’ll look like you saved the company money for at least the next couple months. Besides, once those employees are gone you can pretend that not caring about them is totally normal because they’re no longer your direct responsibility.
I mean, even ‘think with your head and not your heart’ is perfectly valid under certain circumstances. It just happens to be used generously by people who are trying to justify doing harm, that’s all.
In the context of the richest person on earth saying, “empathy is a weakness”, yes. You’re absolutely right.
This sounds like “facts don’t care about your feelings,” which almost always goes on to cite cherry-picked/non-sensical/incorrect “facts.”
Plus there is no group more concerned with their feelings than those people. They’re the same ones who demand common sense despite the fact the true functioning of the world is so often not intuitive and those random idiots who can barely spell half the time probably aren’t gunna be making any genius decisions.
Look, I got no beef with someone who can’t spell “emotional intelligence”. My problem is with people who refuse to learn it
It’s curious how nobody who says those things is suggesting something that would be ethically concerning in ways that affect them negatively, only other people. “Well, a few hundred thousand people might die… [but none of them are people I know or care about]”.
you’ve got to break a few [other people’s] eggs to make [my] omelette
Literally the opening of Doom 3 before they open the hell portals
“don’t worry, they will get their product”
Who could have known Betruger would end up betraying us
