Some people are sheep. When you have literally nothing to lose, why not lash out on these mistreating you (and us).
Go ahead, you do it.
Why not us, like a a massive group of people. As much as I hate MAGA and what they were pursuing on Jan 6, at least they didn’t just wait around when they were dumb enough to believe a pathological lying narcissist about their liberties being violated. We know our liberties are being violated and we’re a bunch of cowards. I don’t expect we’ll win against fascism if we can’t even put up a fight.
Now that I can get behind… not literally though, I can’t fight the US fight, am too busy fighting the AfD over here in Germany.
72-year-old man with heart problems who isn’t sure he can even make it through a normal workday alive
This dunce: “what a sheep for not trying to murder his boss”
not saying his boss is abusing him.
a 72-year-old man with heart problems
This dunce: “He’s gotta go hunt someone, for revenge, right?”
Baa Ram Ewe
thats why we need uhc
Some places on this earth are horrible and Im pretty sure if reincarnation is real, we are all going to experience this shit (or have before).
if I ever get a job again this will be me.
I don’t know where the guy in the post is from. When I started a job with disability benefits (not sure if they were from the company or the state), they emphasized that we needed to look at the tax / take-home implications for if we were ever on disability.
If we had our disability insurance payment taken out of our paycheck before taxes were paid from our paycheck, then we would also owe taxes on any payments we got while we were on disability. If we paid taxes first and then paid for our disability insurance, then any payments would be tax-free.
Thing was, after taxes and deductions from our regular paycheck, we only got about 80% of the money we’d earned. And disability paid 80% of our regular paycheck. So if you paid for disability after paying taxes, you would still have about the same amount of income (though being disabled would bring in a bunch of new expenses). But if you paid for disability before paying taxes, then disability would pay 80% of your regular paycheck, and then it would be taxed - meaning you’d only be getting about 65% of your usual income.
I know it’s not like that everywhere, and many places don’t even have disability anymore. But if you’re getting disability insurance deducted from your paycheck, it’s worth checking the tax/income implications if you ever need to claim it.
This is pretty much what I’m looking at if I get hurt at work. At best I can get 60% of my normal take home, or if I pay like 50-100+/mo more, I can get a whole 6.67% more! Totally worth it! /s
He’s eligible for both the full amount of SS and/or SS disability. He’s likely not exploring all options and should talk to a social worker.
Ie, we aren’t getting the full story here.
SS disability
enrolls 300 people per year. someone old who only had a heart attack ain’t getting it
It’s possible he still has a mortgage, or is in debt or any hundreds of reasons why the tiny amount of SS isn’t enough to survive on for him.
This is my biggest fear, people aren’t buying their first home as early as they used to. Imagine you don’t buy your first home till 40, and you get a 30yr mortgage. You’re still paying it well past standard retirement age.
That’s the great thing: they keep raising the retirement age. Soon, I’ll be able to buy a house at 45 with a 50-year mortgage, literally work until I’m dead, and let the bank take the house because I still owe $150k.
That was also always the plan. When Social Security was initially established with a retirement age of 65, the life expectancy of an American was 63.
It was never meant to be a national retirement plan. It was a social safety net meant to keep people who couldn’t work due to injury or age from dying homeless on the streets where people could see them.
Then we started living longer and pensions started going away and it became the primary retirement plan for millions of people who started living 20 years longer than the system had planned for.
And the educated, healthy people who live forever and collect the most in payments due to their higher wages tend to be people who didn’t start contributing until their mid-20s after finishing college. So for the majority of their lives they don’t contribute, but they take the most out of the system.
It’s fundamentally broken as designed.
This is pretty much how it works. Paid employment is modern days slavery. They pay you just enough for a living wage and forces you to consume more all the time. And you just try to keeping up appearances like all your neighbors do. And finally you die in doing that.
Makes me wonder why we bother.
Because we don’t believe life could be different. Centuries of propaganda has made us what we are today. And we are proud of it.
Has the frog been boiled yet?
It’s been liquified and is no longer recognized as such.
This man has likely been a part of the work force for almost SIXTY YEARS.
still not enough
No vitals for 10 minutes doesn’t make sense
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Anyone without vitals for 10 minutes would he dead
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They should have still had vitals with a heart attack
He’s lucky. Cause faking not not having vitals to get out of work is an instant write up and automatic termination.
That’s not the case.
- people round numbers. In a casual setting 8 minutes and 10 minutes are the same.
- 10 minutes without detectable vital signs is survivable, albeit extremely serious.
- If you have sudden cardiac arrest and get CPR from a random bystander you have a 20% chance of surviving to leave the hospital. The sooner a defibrillator can restart the heart the better.
- I’m not sure why you say they should have still had vitals with a heart attack. Most heart attacks don’t leave you with none, but it’s not all by any means. Lack of blood flow to the heart can easily cause it to stop beating.
Ultimately though, the part that matters is that the part you found implausible was the medical details, not that someone would go back to work shortly after a severe emergency while still concerned about their own sudden death because they can’t afford to recover.
The sooner a defibrillator can restart the heart the better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defibrillation
Defibrillators don’t restart the heart, that’s a common misconception. They effectively shock-reset it so that it can resume its normal beating rhythm.
You are correct, it was a lazy-ish shortcut on my part.
The sooner a defibrillator can be used to induce the hearts electrical rhythm to resume ordered behavior and allow meaningful contractions to pump blood, the better.Even more succinctly: YELL 911 AED CPR GOGOGO
The AED can only reset electric rythyms. Not every source of not having a pulse is due to chaotic electrical rhythm, not every electrical issue has a lack of pulse. “Stopped” and “restart” are ambiguous. I would generally forgive the usage of “not working” and “make start working” from anyone less trained than an EMT.
YELL 911 AED CPR GOGOGO
- Checks for hazards before approaching
- “Hey, hey! Are you ok‽”
- Checks pulse, for no longer than 10 seconds
- “Activate the emergency response system!”
- One. Two. Three. Four…
Point at someone, name them by clothing, and tell them forcibly to call 911
Too many times people think someone else is calling 911
One thing I like about modern phones is that you can get to the emergency number from the lock screen or by hitting the power button a bunch quickly (depending on phone and settings), so it’s easy for an individual to get a 911 call going and on speakerphone without delaying anything else.
Random bystanders are way too concerned about breaking ribs.
If you see me on the ground with no heartbeat, break my fucking ribs when you do that shit. If you don’t hear them snap, you aren’t trying hard enough.
Fun fact: people are often hesitant or uncomfortable to do effective AED and CPR on peeps with breasts because they either weren’t taught about it or are too embarrassed. Get out my tits if I’m buying the farm. I’d rather my girls get exposed than fucking die.
For the curious: It’s ok if you end up touching breast tissue when performing CPR. It happens, especially for those with large breasts.
When using an AED you need to expose the chest and remove/cut off the bra to get the pads placed correctly, to avoid arcing with an underwire, and to get gel on the skin under the pads.
Stories like this have a habit of expanding as they’re told.
That said, I had a coworker in his 50s who continued to work after having a near life ending cardiac event. He was the company CTO but couldn’t afford to retire because he couldn’t afford private insurance.
Died last year, after having a follow up event and spending his last few months in hospital.
If CPR is keeping your blood flowing for 10 mins then you don’t have vitals. CPR stops when your vitals comes back or when they pronounce you are dead-dead.
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Netherlands here:
Yikes.
y’all need any immigrates? I’d love to bike more.
No we don’t need any more ‘immigrates’.
What about immigrants?
I see you understand conservatives’ opinions regarding asylum seekers.
Another dutchie here:
Yikes. +1
What a short term outlook. If he dies on the job insurance pays out triple!
/s
Not always, but often, people can save more and retire <60yo if they learn about it and plan ahead. Some people’s identity is too tied to work and worry about losing that and don’t want to leave. Of course companies should pay workers more and have benefits like in better countries, including healthcare for all, so boss can’t use that leverage. Healthy lifestyle reduces common health issues too, cook at home healthy, mindfulness and be active. It all works together, simple living, improve skills for more income, side work, and DIY saves money, live healthier, keep adding FIRE skills for more autonomy, better health and retirement fund. Mustachians unite!
Read the room
Unfortunately, the gap between what people make, what people need to survive on ramen noodles and a closet for living in, and what people need to be able to save up for retirement, not just now, but when they are ready for retirement when inflation has vastly devalued their savings, is a very big gap. Only the most successful and lucky individuals get to retire at a reasonable age. The rest are work until they die poor. This was not true for many of the oldest generation, who had more buying power out of the money they made, but true for almost everyone that’s first entered the workforce after the 1990s is facing this problem.
This is not true in all places and often people “feel like” things are worse than they are, but yes some really are stuck, and more right-wing policies will make it worse. I worked since I was 14 but didn’t start career until 2000. I spent within what I made, while friends didn’t and they had financial issues. I worked hard at various jobs and had student loans that I paid off, paid rent, food, car, all of it. I fully agree that companies need to pay more, better benefits and universal healthcare, and we will only get those for all, if enough politicians are elected at once to pass big reforms. It sucks if it’s really impossible to cut costs and learn new ways that MMM and others do, and it’s not just higher incomes if you look into it. There is a post for jobs over $50k w/o degree, which is old so incomes should be more than that now. Ask how can you make this work rather than why it’s impossible, you can do it! It is sad that some get stuck in a hole to start and keep digging in deeper, when they could learn how to do better. (not my blog but learned a lot from it and leanfire skills improve life generally) mrmoneymustache.com/2012/05/11/food-rules-a-shortcut-to-better-health/
mrmoneymustache.com/2013/02/22/getting-rich-from-zero-to-hero-in-one-blog-post/
My grandpa is ~10 years retired after working as a pharmacist his whole career. He’s calling my parents every month, asking for help with his rent and groceries because he can’t afford both at once with his retirement and social security payments.
Mind you, my grandmother did taxes and financials for small businesses, so it’s not like my grandparents weren’t set up. But my grandma’s health went down, hospital bills ate all of their savings, and now that she’s passed, my grandpa can’t afford anything.
It’s not so black and white as “save more and just be healthy”. Not even close
See the other reply and that’s really sad I hope he will be ok.
Indentured servitude for the ability to exist.
