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    9 days ago

    I genuinely don’t think Google wants to do this. I think they’re doing it because they’re forced to by the other LLM competitors and are looking for competitive edges.

    I think they would prefer to route you to those websites where they can sell you ads.

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      9 days ago

      You’re not thinking that far ahead. Eventually the AI summary will have embedded ads.

      “That’s a nice website but why don’t you try this one over here…”

    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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      9 days ago

      🤷

      What really scares me are IT-illiterate politicians who swallowed the US generated narrative that AI is the next big thing, hook, line and sinker. And the waste of resources AI is adding to our already ravaged global ecosystem.

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        I see it as the last attempt and economical hail mary of the USA to stay on top of on the world stage. They know China is gaining if not surpassing the USA in more and more areas. It’s either dominate with AI or become second tier player, like the UK after they lost their empire, and USA doesn’t do second tier so they bet the farm on this. Not that different from how Trump is trying to control the world’s oil supply with his adventures in the gulf region and trade with his tariffs. Those too might not have been the best bets.

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          I see it as the last attempt and economical hail mary of the USA to stay on top of on the world stage.

          💯. And with their lack of regulation they’re effectively forcing others to play their game. Fuck that shit.

          Trump is trying to control the world’s oil supply with his adventures in the gulf region

          And his waning popularity. I feel he’s just doing what a handful of presidents tried before him; this part feels almost traditional.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    When the collapse of Stack Overflow happens because of this shit, say goodbye forever to researching solutions to your coding difficulties.

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      It’s been a while that I needed to visited Stack Overflow. When I need a coding question answered, I ask Claude Code. Just like back then with answers from Stack Overflow, I still do the sanity checks and verification using my own natural neural network. AI is pretty useful as an assistant for coding if you are able to properly review the generated code.

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    8 days ago

    Feel bad because I use this a lot. It really isn’t fair for the websites though.

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      I feel bad for you, though. The error rate on the AI searches is high, and you might go the rest of your life not knowing you were lied to, believing the garbage that showed up on your screen.

      In my opinion, the question of quality is paramount. If you want the truth, don’t listen to GenAI, because GenAI doesn’t actually know anything.

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      9 days ago

      Maybe it could actually fix microslops crappy online documentation library, thats pro customer.

      Relink all the broken links, fix outdated information from patches where they never bothered updating it.

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      9 days ago

      The number of times I’ve seen AI overviews directly contradict the source material…

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        9 days ago

        “The ideal number of cigarettes to smoke while pregnant is 2-3 a day!”

        “Yes, you should eat one small rock a day to stay healthy!”

        • Paraphrased as i cbf looking up the exact quotes from AI.
  • Hell, even before the AI summsary, the “at a glance” short blurb shown of the page on a Google search generally had enough of the information I was looking for that I almost never had to click into the whole page.

    The AI summary conflating contradictory info into a single cohesive looking response makes it more likely that I will view the cited source to see what it actually said vs what the shittastic Gemini agent cobbled together.

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    9 days ago

    while it’s not great, a ton of websites did this to themselves by turning every 1 paragraph piece of information into a 5 page listicle with ads splattered all over the place. I don’t think AI search stuff would be nearly as popular if websites didn’t make their content impossible to view.

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      Those aren’t the valuable sites, though. They’re content/SEO farms whose main purpose is to serve ads to eyeballs for profit. Many of those ads are hosted by Google themselves.

      And which tech giant threw up their hands and let those shit-tier websites take over search results… I’ll give you one guess.

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      I doubt it, for example Wikipedia is about as clean as it gets for knowledge sites, and their traffic is down significantly. The ai summaries of wiki articles are usually almost the same as the summary at the top of the wiki page, so if people have enough info with the summary, then they’re not clicking through.

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      The problem is it often just chats bollocks that it found on reddit. Sometimes I’ll see it talk about stuff I already know because im looking for something super specific and see it giving out false information.

      If its something I don’t know at all, I’ll have no way of knowing if its true or not without going to the source myself, at that point why bother reading it at all?

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        I find it is almost constantly wrong for things I know, and will stick with the wrong info until called out.

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      Easy to forget that pre-AI Google was so full of link bombs and SEO-tuned crap that the front page was largely bullshit click-bait anyway.

      I don’t need a link to EasterDatesLookup.biz to tell me when Easter is in 2026. I don’t need a link to PresidentalHistoriesNotebookExtreme.org to tell me Lincoln’s birthday. I don’t need MedicalWebPlus.md to tell me the symptoms for chickenpox. I don’t fucking need sixteen YouTube videos in TikTok voice to explain it all to me, either.

      I’ll admit at some point 90% of my internet experience is just going to Wikipedia, so maybe my real mistake is going to Google at all. But if Google AI is just reposting text from Wikipedia anyway, that’s fine.

      • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Exactly, great for things like recipes too, they’ve created an amazing path to making nearly every SEO strategy worthless. I don’t need to read your grandma’s biography to find out how you make sourdough bread. And usually, when it is wrong it’s very wrong, so if it’s an area you have a base level of knowledge in it’s fairly easy to pick out the inconsistencies.

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    9 days ago

    How about I summarise it? That way you don’t have to deal with a cookie popup, a news letter popup, a signin with google popup, a request to send notifications to your browser popup, a back button that doesnt take you back to your previous page, and ads between every other paragraph.

    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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      9 days ago

      There are some good arguments to be made that Google happily pushed this development along, maybe even created it. Never forget, they’re formost an ad broker. Everything else is just a means to that end.

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      Don’t forget the requests for location access that the site totally definitely needs…

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      How the FUCK are people okay with the sign in with Google pop up?

      If you have any sign up with Google it adds itself to your site. Then it hijacks the user session by showing a large dialogue over your content. No, you can’t disable that, and if you do they might block visitors from finding your site. They might not, but maybe they will.

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          I mean for most people it makes sense.

          No one wants to make another account for the hundredth time.

          I always do because I don’t trust Google et AI not to lock me out but the account creation friction of the modern web sucks.

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      9 days ago

      Browsing the modern internet without uBlock origin and maybe a cookie consent blocker is truly a horrible experience.

    • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
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      This, and newspaper writing style which endlessly beats around the bush, actually are the reasons for the mainstream accepting AI summaries. AI summaries only work because the Internet is a hellscape of intentionally bad UX with site-owners being hostile towards their users.

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        The waffling happens because otherwise google drops their ranking and won’t give them traffic .

        Search engine optimisation is satan’s arsehole and has absolutely wrecked the internet…but it’s only happening because of google.

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        Real newspaper writing style doesn’t beat around the bush.

        SEO-optimization writing style does beat around the bush, because they have to try to “organically” mention all the keywords that might bring someone to the page. They also need to make it longer so there are more places to insert ads.

  • Just inside that door is a Home Alone level of ad boobytraps you have to endure before the shop owner smashes you in the shins with an email newsletter appeal. Only then can you actually shop for a bit before a pop-up ad spider falls on you from the rafters.

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      “Hi we noticed you’re running an adblocker. You’ll have to turn that off to see our site”

      I call that one the ol’ go fuck yourself.

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      Yes, but surely Google’s plan long term is to be the one placing those ad booby traps and taking the money from that shopkeep, but obviously not in an evil way, that’d be weird.