• joby@programming.dev
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      4 months ago

      Yeah. As I’ve seen someone else put it, “we’re glad you’re here” is far better than “what took you so long”

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      I never get the “we were doing it first” toxicity. Why should it matter why the newcomers were ignorant if they want to join the cause? Why create new enemies just to protect your “pure” reasons? That kind of separationism is exactly what keeps the ones you should focus on in power, and they want it that way. A divided resistance will fail.

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        4 months ago

        I agree with your point, however it’s also frustrating how obvious it was that all the post-9/11 powers we gave the government would be abused.

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          The PATRIOT Act was a fucking power grab, and obviously was in place in case a crisis came into play. No way something that couldn’t be read in that short a time before approval was written that fast.

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        4 months ago

        Because the majority of “leftists” are exclusively online and their entire lives revolve around internet points derived from having the best and purest ideologies

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          4 months ago

          Where do you think the majority of “rightists”, “libertarians”, and “liberals” are spending their time nowadays? The mall? Everybody is terminally online, apparently including you.

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            4 months ago

            True but my political existence actually isn’t and I do stuff irl

            Too many people just preach dramatic purity online and nothing else

            • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              4 months ago

              yeah. for a lot of the attitudes i see on lemmy about how politics should work i’m like… where are you? i’m out in these streets and i don’t see you. a lot of what people are calling for don’t work until we have mass support and to have mass support we need people outside.