• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    10 days ago

    Hungarian taxpayer money and Russian oil revenue

    No Russian oil revenue is funding right wing fascism. Hungarian state assets are. Hungarian company is a refinery operation that uses any oil to extort primarily Hungarians for that funding. Deflecting the primary evil of GOP onto foreign actors (that are not Israel maximalists), and fishing for yet another Russia connection, is deflection from GOP evil, and of dysfunction of democracy. US has massive foreign interference operations.

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      Let’s see it unravel first before you try and poo-pooh any connections.

      I hate to bring the bad news to the table, but the US isn’t the ONLY country on the planet with foreign interference capabilities.

      Have you read The Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksander Dugin?

      You should.

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        Russophobia led people to accept Ukrainian nazification puppetry by the US to force war on Russia, just as Iranophobia was always a march to this war. That a Russian wrote a book on geopolitcs doesn’t change the pure evil forces coordinated on diminishing Russia that exists without addressing how to defend against them.

        This Hungary/Orban funding for evil is serious, explains GOP admiration, and last minute political rally from Vance. Interesting that in the rally Vance held, he tried calling Trump live on speakerphone, but it went to voicemail. Trump doesn’t really care about GOP/CPAC/Heritage.

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          Force war on Russia. The west made Russia invade Ukraine. Russia was like, no, we don’t want to invade a sovereign nation. The west was like, oh yeah well you better. All because russophobia. That must be it.

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          In Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor. In Iran, it’s the United States. Blaming the war in Ukraine on Russophobia is about as reasonable as blaming the war in Iran on their chants of ‘death to America’. You can dress it up any way you want but at the end of the day they are both empires doing the shitty stuff that empires do. Let’s not pretend like either is innocent.

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            Blaming the war in Ukraine on Russophobia is about as reasonable as blaming the war in Iran on their chants of ‘death to America’.

            It’s a bad comparison, as Ukraine/Russia is functionally a civil war over a border that didn’t matter until the USSR dissolved. Iran/US is a proxy war over Israel’s expansion into Lebanon.

            Much like with the breakup of Yugoslavia and subsequent genocidal border wars, the fight between Ukraine and Russia has been manufactured by Western political interests seeking to run both countries down. That’s why the US is sending money and weapons to both countries.

            By contrast, we’re not standing up Iran’s military.

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              Ukraine and Russia is not a civil war by any measure that isn’t pro-Imperialist. Russia is an old school empire. Even most of the territory inside proper Russia isn’t Russian. The real Russian core is Moscow - St.Petersburg and the surrounding areas. Much like the Baltic States the USSR subjugated Ukraine. But Ukrainians had wanted independence and even (wrongly) welcomed Nazi invaders at first thinking they were going to get independence thanks to them (very stupid idea, sure). The point is that Ukrainians see themselves as cousins of Russians but not as Russian. And Russia is the country that invaded and initiated this current war, they are the aggressors. Calling this a “civil war” is pure Russian propaganda.

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            Categorically unacceptable to not see the pure corruption of Democracy in Ukraine and Europe that manufactured this war on Russia. Subjugation is truly hopeless when full denial of it.

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              Nice Russian talking point as long as you’re willing to pretend Russia is a victim instead of an expansionist empire.

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      The GOP isn’t even real. It’s a trick to distract us from the evil foreigners, I tell ya.

      We need good strong Republicans like Bush and Cheney back in power to protect us from the mean, bad Russians

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        Naah, it’s the Danes! They got Greenland and won’t let Trump put golf courses and hotels in!

        The Russians are fine.

        Putin OTOH, is a murderous prick. That’s why “ganster wanabe” Trump is impressed by him.