A little maybe, but not much.
I’ve seen people say they left reddit to join Lemmy because of the toxic users. To each their own, but I personally think Lemmings aren’t much better. Some people over here can’t understand that sensitive questions can be asked without bad intent. People are way too defensive about their opinions.
It is disappointing, but it’s the better option.
That’s what I’ve been noticing for quite a while. Lemmy slowly became the very thing it tried proposing itself to be better than. But I guess that’s the cost and what happens when you got disgruntled users from Reddit coming here, just to shit up the place just because they either can or that is really how they are everywhere.
Really can’t tell you how many antagonizing users I’ve ran across in all of my attempts to socialize around the fediverse, especially Lemmy. Oh and the power-tripping moderation is alive and well, definitely something from Reddit. It’s almost like Reddit gave them a reason to leave it, just so they’d come here and repeat everything that went wrong.
Are you upset because your stupid question about trans women got you roasted?
You were a fucking dickhead and you can’t accept that people held you to account
As I mentioned so many times in the post itself, I didn’t mean any mockery towards anyone. Read the entire post
I asked it because I saw it in a debate and wanted to dig deeper. If I’m being supportive of something I want to make sure I absolutely know what I’m talking about.
A lot of people even provided me with some really good answers. I wasn’t roasted. Idk what you’re talking about man.
you can’t talk politely about trans things on here because of trans rights extremists will come out and harass you, and try to get you banned.
they think even asking questions or trying to understand trans issues is VERBOTEN.
there is also several instances of blahjzone, which is where a lot of the trans extremists hang out and come from.
But you can tho. And I did. I was given in detail answers. My post was about an A-hole encounter from another post.
Then what are you bitching about?
Bruh, Stop being aggressive. I didn’t say anything to hurt you?
Imma just block ya, bcz I’m how you’re gonna be if I continue to talk wth ya.
Have a nice day ~~ 🥰
I dont know. Not that Lemmy users are necessarily great all the time, but Reddit has decayed to the point that its barely better than a generic Facebook feed.
Reddit has decayed to the point that its barely better than a generic Facebook feed.
That is certainly not the case for a well-curated personal feed.
My feeling is that if your feed is shitty, you can look in the mirror at the one who curated it.
Yeah, my feed was pretty awful when I left reddit. Too many reposts.
Lemmy is better on that aspect.
But I feel that it should be possible for me to ask questions I couldn’t ask anywhere else without people jumping on me with their accusations
Like what question do people jump on you for on lemmy here?
Personally I don’t take that much offense, if someone is rude to me I give it back to them, or ignore them. It’s anonymous online communication so you have to expect getting flak.
Well, I asked the question : ‘Do you think strict 2 child policy be a thing?’ Mind you, I didn’t even say it should be. The only reason I asked that is because I wonder if it would become necessary in the future. And some guy accused me of wanting to control women and all that.
Religious people were apeshit about china’s two child policy. They hated it. I don’t doubt you got some flak bringing it up, but it’s also an issue of the government telling people what they can and can’t do, which may be where more of these people are coming from.
One thing is certain, there is zero chance of it happening in the US anytime soon, because of the religious people.
but it’s also an issue of the government telling people what they can and can’t do…
There’s a strong segment of Lemmy, perhaps even a majority, who have absolutely no problem with a government telling people what they can and can’t do. The only thing these people disagree on is the details.
You should check out one or two talks by Hans Rosling, the Scandinavian statistics prof/king. Very interesting correlations between quality of life/healthcare and family size, and he makes the info digestible for a wide audience.
Also, I would advise you generously block anyone who proves to you that they are not interested in discussing, but only in… let’s say shouting.
I hope you can see where, in the current political climate, questions like “Should 2-child policy be a thing?” “Should transgenders use the gender assigned at birth?” or “Should immigrants be immediately returned to their country of origin?” might seem disingenuous to the populations affected by those very real policy proposals.
Immediately proving their point with incendiary questions that aren’t really comparable
Given the decline in birth rates, I don’t know why you’d think it’d be necessary tbh.
You asked if people should be forced to live a certain way and were surprised that you got a vitriolic response??? In this political climate??? Maybe know your audience a little better.
In this political climate???
I was online a decade before “Eternal September” started and having to check the “political climate” before making a post wasn’t a thing until sometime in the last 8 years or so.
This kind gatekeeping has had horrible consequences for the culture of the internet.
I grew up with lesbian parents in the south in the 90s. Checking the political climate is all I have ever done my entire life, internet or not. I don’t agree that there has ever been a time when that wasn’t a requirement online or offline.
Like for real? Obama’s tan suit happened 12 years ago and you think the Internet has only been politicized for 8? You must have managed to avoid pretty much all social media before Facebook, which is weird because Eternal September happened in the 90s and came from Usenet which has been political since the 80s.
and you think the Internet has only been politicized for 8?
I didn’t say the internet wasn’t politicized. I said that having to “check the political climate” before making a post, i.e. self censoring, is new(ish). You gonna tell me that you never posted online that having lesbian parents is okay before it became accepted to do so? I’ll bet you did and I’ll bet you did it more than once.
This idea that posts running counter to the current cultural / political climate shouldn’t be made is pure horseshit. Usenet was stuffed to the gills with counter culture of all kinds, it was expected and accepted. Yes there were epic flame wars but that’s because people didn’t self censor an unpopular opinion because of the “current political climate”. I was there.
Online discourse is a pale shadow of what it once was and I put the blame squarely on the rise of this idea that people should self-censor in order to avoid giving offense. Fuck that and fuck people who believe that’s how it should be.
You poor little baby. Maybe you can pay someone for a hug or something
Hey that was a good idea. I swung by your house and got a few hugs from your mom. Thanks!
I know what you mean…
those reposts are by AI bots, or spammers looking to warm up thier accounts. i see alot of people complain on those subs, but it usually fall on deaf ears most of the time, by mods, and certainly admins dont do anything about it, because its more advertisement potential for them. but they are quick to target accounts that arnt benefiting them.
reddits is dead internet theory come true, mostly run by propaganda bots(russia, israel, and PALINTIR). OF spammers, link/url.ad spammers. FACEBOOK is what reddit will become eventually.
I sometimes go to it on a computer with shitty privacy settings. It’s terrible now. There is no quality content and it seems state-owned. After not using it for a while I was shocked by how bad it got since I left.
I don’t know why one would expect Lemmy to be different when it’s entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.
I don’t think there’s much difference between platforms. Everyone is performing to either get pats on the back or to stirr up something. The moment everyone around you seems nice is when you’ve entered the echo chamber.
it’s entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.
I don’t know that there’s any decisive proof of that. There’s no reason people haven’t come from other social networks as well.
it can be if you’re using your block list effectively. There’s a bubble of really chill people that have seperated themselves off from all the debate lords and with a platform this small you’ll find them pretty easy.
Just block any 3 instances of your choice, 20 of the most active accounts that specifically annoy you, and maybe all the porn comms (it’s mid anyway). You’ll be left with a feed that’s to your liking and nice comment sections
Because people who decide to leave something shitty are predisposed to wanting something better?
I just want headpats
attaboy
It dependa on the server. But the nice thing is, you can pack up, walk away and move to another instance.
You are not tied to your first choice. And that is better than reddit. Go where you want to be.
It doesn’t depend on your server. since lemmy is federated, you’re gonna see the same content and people no matter what server you’re on (subject to maybe defederation and things like that). There’s still a general Lemmy “community” that spans across every instance.
Not if you browse local, that’s your server only, right?
Local is just communities from your server. You’ll see comments and posts from other servers, just not communities from other servers
That kind of mobility has limitations - I’ve personally gotten a supposed mainline instance rugpulled with no upfront way of knowing - tons of blocklist (because, y’know) and what few communities seemed worth following, all down the drain.
Federation is supposed to solve that problem but just doesn’t: it works inconsistently and with a bunch of arbitrary politicking involved: why’s this instance block that one, why doesn’t everyone block you-know-which-ones, etc. The idea of a “community” being instance level means that malicious instances have a lot of room to fuck around and make things awkward and unpleasant, as we’ve seen. It also makes discoverability and searchability doodoo.
Like, it’s technically true, it’s just not as practical and rose colored as it seems when people want federation to be a general cure-all for Reddit shittiness, instead of the one overhyped random implementation detail it actually is in all this.
Most instances don’t block other instances of note though. The biggest decision you’ll have to make here realistically is “Do I want to access hexbear and/or lemmygrad” and that’s it.
And Dbzer0 in their current block of feddit.org.
Yup. People are people, and the worst of them seem to be very loud about being awful. Any community is going to feel more toxic as it grows, but federation (theoretically) lets you keep your community as small as you like.
Sure. I regularly get social media vibes as well. Everyone needs to subscribe to one of two sides. Simple truths are way better than long and nuanced texts…
We’re doing better with bot activity and some Reddit-isms like commenting “This.” underneath another comment. But we’re not too far from the vibe on Reddit.
And if you don’t like backlash, don’t publish your opinion on a discussion platform.
Backlash and roasting is something that’s alright. But I can’t stand the blatant false accusations. Post a controversial question , and people will be jumping all over you.
Hmmh, yeah. I didn’t look up your case. But from my own experience we have quite some diversity going on here. There’s idiots and a*holes around. Some people with weird personalities or who are not overly clever. We also have intelligent, helpful and overall nice people here. Sometimes it’s obvious “it takes two to tango” situations.
I think to some degree this is unavoidable. And to some degree we should try to do nore to foster good behaviour and disincentive bad behaviour. It’s tricky. And we don’t want a balance that’s just a thick filter bubble either. Unless we’re talking protected safe-space communities.
I have seen it. There are some who preach tolerance with absolute intolerance. There is no talking to them. Block them and move on.
My experience has been that the more people there are, the more difficult it is to be “seen” in a conversation, the shittier everyone starts behaving. So Lemmy is better off if for no other reason than it is a much smaller userbase. The nice thing about Federation that I could see happening is if the whole gets big enough, a few instances could cordon themselves off into a smaller subset and recreate this small-userbase-experience if it came to that.
Haven’t been there meaningfully in years, but when I was there regularly if I logged in and saw I had a bunch of new comments I’d have a mini panic attack. Did I say something clever or something stupid and get eviscerated?
I rarely get the number of comments here that I got there, but when I do get them they’re almost never toxic like the ones I got at reddit were, even when they are critical or disagreeing.
…I do still get a mini panic attack when I see I have a bunch of unread comments though. It’s less intense though as Lemmy seems to be slowly curing me of that reaction.
There’s always going to be sad people who thrive on messing with others. I don’t think any social platform can avoid this problem, but it’s good that you’re finding a way to moderate your reaction.
I love it when I have a bunch of notifications, dopamine hit!
Same! Seeing replies on Reddit was always a coin flip. Are people happy or angry? Do I even want to click and find out?
Lemmy doesn’t dogpile the way Reddit did. I’m not anxious about people disagreeing with me on here, because even if they do, they’re more civil about it. They’ll bring up points to disagree on, which is fair and adds to discussion. Meanwhile on Reddit, you’ll more likely get ad hominem attacks that contribute nothing meaningful and seemingly only serve to make people feel bad for posting/commenting in the first place.
The coin flip was the reason I left Reddit more than anything else. I started noticing some irate comments for simple opinion stuff. Then one comment I made got a huge reaction of ‘that never happened, you fucking suck, kill yourself,’ in a much longer form. I was so flabbergasted that I finally gave up on Reddit in that moment. Twelve years of happily using that site slowly fell apart over the course of a few months.
Lemmy doesn’t dogpile the way Reddit did.
It does. A bunch of us just happen to agree a lot more and the entire place is much smaller, so it doesn’t come up as often. It’s human psychology, people do this by default. Call me a cynic but there’s no place or case on Earth where that doesn’t happen in one way or another and it damn sure does here.
Not just users. Mods/admins too.
Ha! I usually use Voyager, so I ignore votes. A few weeks ago I logged into lemmyworld and noticed a weird downvote pattern. A wild mod had gone into some sort of Agrajag fit and booted me from all their ghost instances, citing self-promotion. It was both confusing and hilarious!
Lemmy/Piefed is more resistant to out-of-control and deranged mods and admins though.
Well, why would it be? People are people and a lot of us came from reddit in the first place.
The Lemmy userbase is human, which is more than I can say of Reddit’s.
The bots are showing up heavy in the last few days. It annoys me greatly since it dilutes the quality posts in my feed that generate discussion. It’s a bunch of shitty memes and cartoons and it’s awful.
Good thing we can just block it and get our feed back.
It’s a bunch of shitty memes and cartoons and it’s awful.
Always has been.jpg
I had to block a bunch of meme communities when I first joined to make lemmy usable for me.
No offence to anyone who enjoys memes or the below, just I prefer lemmy with less lols
HTH
Blocked Communities
- Memes@lemmy.ml
- Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world
- ADHD memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- Risa@startrek.website
- memes@lemmy.world
- 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- 196@lemmy.world
- Memes@sopuli.xyz
- Comic Strips@lemmy.world
- Science Memes@mander.xyz
- Programmer Humor@lemmy.ml
- Programmer Humor@programming.dev
- Political Memes@lemmy.world
- linuxmemes@lemmy.world
- NonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.works
- ich_iel@feddit.org
I guess I’ll save this post so I can go through the list and block the Ines I don’t want. Looks like I got a few.
Yeah I have noticed a ton of posting here that reads like it’s an edgelording 12 year old, that is either really stupid and then attacks anyone who replies to their stupid post with facts and reasonable replies. Often with a extremist/insane take or a really inane and stupid one.
That wasn’t happening in '25 that I really noticed.
Yea, I’m grateful for that. But the humans are pretty awful too sometimes.
I just blocked one of those right in this post. Idk if you can see his comment anymore. His username was something like fisting lover.
FIY, when you block someone on the Fediverse you simply stop being able to see their comments and posts. They can still see and interact with anything you post.
Ok. Did you misspell FYI, or is this something new?
Oh you’re right I did.
Alr
lemmy world that you are on is full of influence agents, many of which are bots/chatbots, I noticed them pumping up support for the Iran war.
There’s a dozen or so that post constant propaganda against countries that don’t conform to US interests. Their approach is so similar that it’s hard to believe there isn’t something that links the accounts.
This type of behaviour is discoverable. There are probably much more subtle campaigns ongoing too. I’m undecided as to whether it is just the efforts of some ‘centrist’ zealots or there are some actual spooks in here.
It’s both. The government pays for this type of thing. It’s not just me that noticed it either. With chatbots it’s never been cheaper to run these either, and apparently they do bother with little old lemmy, although it’s nothing like reddit which is owned by them and corporate influence ops.
Oh don’t forget the tankies pushing russian (and chinese) propaganda. I can never tell are they bots or useful idiots, but I always know when I hit the nail in the head when I criticize russian propaganda and get a lot of downvotes
Lemmy.World is a general-purpose Lemmy instance of various topics, for the entire world to use ,not for usa to rule
There’s also a certain type of person that just… posts that shit. I’m not saying they’re bots or not bots or any damn thing, because there’s tons of bot spam anyway, but I think you’re underestimating how intensely shit some people’s meme game is
I feel like the “hilarious chaos” instance was (is? iirc .world defederated from them so idk if they’re still around) like that. They were already starting from behind with such a try-hard name, and then most of their posts were Facebook-level crap. I ran into them a lot browsing all top-hour, and my impression was that the posters were trying but had a… less refined palate than the average Lemmy user.
While reddit does have a not problem there are loads of people, people who LARP being some minority, and people posting thinly veiled fetish content on e.g. AITA. But bots certainly make up a higher percentage over there.
Here we got tankies, blind hate for anything done by america and lack of nuance. But the latter is just common.
There’s nothing blind about it, the US deserves every bit of hate it gets
blind hate for anything done by america and lack of nuance
snort.
I don’t even disagree that that exists, but that was funny.
I have not yet seen that bad userbase.
Maybe it’s about how one preceives commenting or so.
I think it’s way nicer here and will never render to that of reddit or any mainstream social platforms as their existense will remain as traps for bad actors.
Of course some will find their way here but for most, it’s way too complicated.
Yeah, not that bad. But some aholes still found their way over.
Reading comprehension seems to have dropped significantly in the last few years. Not sure if it’s site specific or just the pandemic remote learning/AI essay generation joining the Internet at large…
I see what you mean.
I think they are on average better no doubt. They tend to lean more left due to Lemmy’s beginnings and less general karma farming. (Less, not none)
But since Lemmy users are 99% ex-redditors yeah they share a lot of the same issues too.
Which should surprise absolutely nobody - the user base is redditors and… people who used to be redditors. “Used to be” for various reasons, including being too shrill, insufferable, spammy or malicious… for Reddit. Not exclusively, though, of course.
Either way, whatever annoys you about Reddit, you’ll more than likely find it here. Y’know, to the degree you find anything on here between the ghost town factor and incredibly stupid architecture.
between the ghost town factor and incredibly stupid architecture
I don’t get you?
On which count?
