• CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Football games. I don’t see any gameplay difference between one made in 2007 and the latest football game, so why people still decide to drop 60$ for the very same game every year is something i don’t get.

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      4 months ago

      Two reasons:

      • Active multiplayer: Yes this is kind of a chicken and egg situation, but people who play online multiplayer want to play the version of the game with the largest community of active players.
      • Roster updates: If you’re a fan of a sports team, you probably want to play using their current active roster. Yes, fan updates are sometimes available for older titles but the latest release will have updated face scans etc.
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        4 months ago

        If any sports games where made for the first time today they’d probably just go the subscription model. You buy the base game and need to pay for annual subscription updates and access to multiplayer.

        Essentially releasing a game every year is this but the ideal of the subscription model wasn’t around back in 1995 when the first 3D sports games where releasing.

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        4 months ago

        Its also important to note that a lot of sports game fans are just into that style of video game and buy consoles 6ust to play them. They aren’t playing videogames just sports games.

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          4 months ago

          This is the big thing.

          I know many people who have had games consoles that have never played anything other than FIFA/EAFC

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        4 months ago

        Actually, PES and FIFA used to get really good gameplay updates back in the 2000s. Like, the difference between FIFA 2002 and FIFA 2003 was massive, for example.

        Then they realized they’re too big to waste money on actual development and went all in on licenses and marketing. It’s been shit every since.

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      People love to shit on the yearly FIFA releases, but if you genuinely can’t see any gameplay differences between one released in 2007 and 2026 then you’re either being disingenuous or haven’t actually played them.

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      4 months ago

      If there was a fan game that ran on donations, like stardew valley but on donations, one game could rule them all.

      Or like, just make it a free commercial game but don’t put any real players in it. Let the community do that, just intentionally make it moddable. The fans will do the rest.

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      4 months ago

      Cyberball on the Genesis was peak football gameplay. And probably the last one I ever played.

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      4 months ago

      Football like PES or FIFA? Or Madden?

      Because PES was a whole different beast: like, a proper VG with actual meaningful gameplay changes (for the most part) between versions, and FIFA used to be like that in the 2000s.

      IDK about Madden though; I only played a couple and they were fine, but I can’t vouch for their quality or pinpoint when they stopped being fun.

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      4 months ago

      Theres actually quite a huge difference. The animations are much better, the detail in ball control, unique player moves, real time stat updates and the multiplayer. Plus there is the collection aspect.

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        The last football game i played was in like 2002. The otger day i saw a friend of mine playing the new fifa (we probably talk about a different kind of football) and i asked him to stream it, because i was waiting for a download or something. The game looked obviously better, but damn these are some low effort games that make billions. BILLIONS. they are the reason that there wasn’t a skate 4. Skate was the better game in every way possible. It even outsold fifa. But fifa made that microtransactions money. They don’t fix bugs, you can still make the same cheap goals as you could do when i played it last. Glitchgoals they call it now i think, so you can win 20-0 every game. The announcers are just as bad as back then. They repeat the same catchphrases over and over. I asked him not 10min in if that is all they have to say.

        Everyone can enjoy what they want, but in my honest opinion you have to be a special kimd of idiot if you support these games. They literally laugh at anyone’s face dumb enough to buy their slop. Fifa 2026 sait fifa 2025 in the main menu at launch, that’s how much they care.

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    4 months ago

    Deep rock galactic, tried playing with friends a few times and holy shit I would rather watch grass grow. I have never played a game that made me disassociate to that extent.

    Also the endless repetition of a few extremely unfunny lines by the fans reminds of Rick and Morty fans.

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    4 months ago

    Monopoly. If it wasn’t a classic, and someone was looking for a publisher with that concept, they’d be completely trashed.

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    4 months ago

    Breath of the Wild. A big empty open world with a few fetch quests thrown in. The shrine puzzles are all trivially easy they’re just not fun and the four main dungeons are just a joke.

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    4 months ago

    Guild Wars 2.

    I mean I can kind of see what makes it so popular but I gave it a fair shake and even got into the first DLC after reaching the max level and I was just utterly bored. The story is super mediocre, the combat is mediocre, the world looks nice but is really boring, everything is just grind after checklist after grind… I kept wondering when it gets fun and it never really does. People kept selling it to me as the greatest MMORPG out there and it might be one of the most boring, at least IMO.

    It’s also a confusing jumbled mess of 500 different mechanics that don’t fit well together, the game never explains how crafting works or where you can find the materials you need or what 99% of the items are used for. It doesn’t explain why you would want to beat bosses or do dungeons because all of the rewards are very superficial and useless. The devs gave up having to explain anything so the game just constantly points you to the wiki which is indecipherable unless you know exactly what to do.

    I’ve played a lot of MMOs and enjoyed all of them except GW2.

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    4 months ago

    I get that I like certain things and other people like others. Currently im not looking for a challenge in games im just looking to play with dolls.

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    4 months ago

    Survival games. I want to like em. I’ve tried tons of them. Green hell, 7 days to die, Dayz, hell, even Fallout 76, and lots more. Most of them don’t give you a tutorial, let alone any clues. I get that they’re supposed to be difficult, but most are arbitrarily difficult. But at least tell me how to fucking take something out of inventory and into my hand! It’s not like if thrown into a survival situation I would somehow forget how hands work. And if you’re not going to give a tutorial, at least let me start in a safe area so I can figure it out.

    7 days to die really pissed me off because as soon as I’d find a gun, a stupid dog would come out of nowhere straight for me, and they take insane amounts of shots to put em down but the ammo is really REALLY scarce. Seriously though, what kind of dog can take 10 rds at point blank, and be totally unfazed? Someone later told me to combine a rock and a stick and that’ll get them in one hit. Come on, 10 rds won’t do it but a club will?

    Or games with like 56 health indicators and you have to keep track of all of them? I’m sorry you’re bored, dude in the zombie apocalypse, but get the fuck over it. How can he be bored?!? Is survival not stimulating enough?

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    4 months ago

    Sports games based on real teams. It makes me feel like I’m playing an ad. Oh yeah and if there are actual ads too. 😪

    Give me fake teams, fake players, even fake cities? and you have activated my interest.

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    4 months ago

    I love turn based RPGs, but I couldn’t get behind expedition 33 at all. I’m sure I just suck at the game, but dodging/blocking never worked. Made it impossible to care about the story cause I was so frustrated. Again I’m sure its just cause I suck, but I never got mad at yakuza like a dragon for its blocking/dodging mechanics.

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    4 months ago

    Any gacha.

    “Oh I got so lucky! It only took 20 pulls to get Boobina!”

    Yeah man, bet that felt a lot better than just unlocking her by doing her story quests like any normal game. Maybe you need to be a gambling addict or something.

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      4 months ago

      I don’t even like deck builders but I gotta disagree with you were. I mean sure, if its a poker game like Balatro I could see it. But how is Slay the Spire gambling? That’s like calling DnD-like games simulated gambling because everything is decided through a dice roll.

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        How could Balatro be seen as gambling? It’s a game you purchase once with no DLC or microtransactions and there’s no gambling in the game.

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            4 months ago

            Pretty sure some of these people would see games like Egyptian ratscrew as gambling

        • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 months ago

          Later parts of grinding for Completionist++ felt like gambling on time to me. Not only you need to get a very certain joker, you need a competent build to carry that joker and whether you get desirable jokers is entirely up to luck.

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            4 months ago

            Without actual stakes, and I mean “betting something” rather than the in game phrase, isn’t that just luck and not gambling?

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      4 months ago

      I love sim games. “Run your own business” games supermarket, vending machine business, pot shop business, coffee shop empire. I love unwinding with a game like those after a full day of work.

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    4 months ago

    I don’t understand why The Elder Scrolls series has so much goodwill, there are many better, more interesting RPGs out there. The sandbox factor has the depth of a puddle as well.