I’d love to do psychedelics again, but can’t due to medication. Not gonna fuck with bad interactions ever again.
I agree, it isn’t worth the seizure. Even after the the prescription ends, its still to risky to try again IMO.
I am far more mentally stable now than when I was follow the Grateful Dead and doing tons of acid. That was a fun time.
Are psychedelics really this popular, or is lemmy just full of people that like them? I had assumed they were a rather niche thing, but the sentiment towards them here today (and not just this post either) seems notably positive, though the descriptions people give sound existentially horrifying to me. Then again, I get anxious enough towards drugs that Ive not even tried alcohol let alone anything less common, so maybe I’m just the weirdo here.
my theory is:
psychadelics open your mind to love
love makes you more aligned with leftist ideas
lemmy is a decentralised place that was popularised by people with leftist ideas leaving other platforms
an average lemmy user is more likely to have taken psychadelics than the average twitter user
Other that fooling around on lemmy my hobby is going to raves so I use MDMA/MDA/LSD once or twice per month. All my friends I meet them on parties, so using is just part of the social circle, but we do other things sober too, like picnics or board game nights. I work in corporate so is something I don’t share with my coworkers, but my wife used to work in a restaurant and was pretty normal to go to party after her shift with her coworkers and get blasted
I also love MDMA on raves, but taking it twice per month is probably too much. Most people recommend 3 months or at least 2 months between uses if you do it regularly. MDMA will fuck you up if you don’t respect it.
I used to be completely sober all the way through my 30s. I tried things later and they really helped me see life from different angles. I didn’t try shrooms until I felt I was ready. They are easily one of the best things that ever happened to me. I would not suggest trying them unless you feel comfortable, are in a very familiar environment, and you have a trustworthy, caring friend to keep you company.
Most of my friends have done acid.
It definitely depends. It’s also hard to tell. My most straight-laced friends from college did acid at least once if not more, and there is a friend or two of mine that I would swear on my life experimented with drugs if I didn’t know better.
That’s something people don’t really acknowledge about drugs. The actual rate of hard abuse or like injuries/death is relatively low. It’s like driving a car, it’s one of the most common causes of death but the actual chance is so low that you don’t really think about that every time you hop in one. Similarly, a lot more people have done drugs (at least once) than you would expect. It’s just if you only take acid once there’s an overwhelming chance that it won’t have any long-term effects (except for the epiphany that there’s a wider world out there than just our every day perception lol)
Then again, it varies wildly by region so there’s a fine chance that it really isn’t as popular around you.
I think that the nature of Lemmy attracts people who are drawn to seek out new experiences and alternative lifestyles, so it’s less that psychs are widely popular and more this community has a higher percentage of users. That said, I don’t know anybody that does acid on the regular anymore, it was pretty uncommon when I was a teen, and the people who I know who like to trip (usually hippies, ravers, and punks) are typically doing shrooms. Might also be because I live in shroom country so they’re easy to find and cheap if you have to buy them. Gotta say, a few days in the middle of the backcountry with a dose it nice, I can’t imagine doing it and going to the bar on a weekend.
You sure do talk a lot of sense blue sponge bob
Depression is hoping a heroic dose of acid causes ego death and maybe life will be slightly less painful afterwards.
Haha yep. 🥲
Honestly yeah that’s an important act of maturity. I love acid, but I waited until I was ready for it. I haven’t done it in years but it was hugely helpful for my self improvement during a difficult and transitional stage of life. Too early and it may not have gone so well
I started early , I watched people lose their minds permanently, I never stopped and found in old age it is a far more enjoyable experience. I appreciate it like a fine work of art that young me just didn’t understand. I honestly couldn’t imagine what my life would have been like if I couldn’t step away from this world from time to time.
Drugs aren’t for everybody, I don’t recommend them but if you are going to take LSD make sure you have a blast of DMT to go with it. It’s the bomb
I mean, unless you also have some molly…
But yea otherwise i am done with acid.
Most likely.
…anymore
Nah, I just don’t know where to get drugs.
Search for the dark net bible.
is this the illicit internet version of google is your friend? you can just say you don’t know either.
Darkweb markets get raided or rug-pull regularly.
People don’t recommend specific markets, because they probably won’t exist for long.
Instead, you’ll get recommended to places like dread, so you can find the current ‘least untrusted’ markets yourself.
I am stable enough but I don’t have the time :(
Then doing it anyway.
I’ve never done acid but I did shrooms twice and haven’t had the balls to try again.
The first time was ok, but the second time, come-up anxiety was so intense I spent the entire trip throwing up, shitting my brains out, and having a panic attack. I can’t do that again, but I’m still full of anxiety, so… nope.
Someday id like to try an extract, I’ve heard the mushroom itself is where the anxiety and gastric discomfort comes from, but yeah I’m just not really motivated in case thats wrong.
You might like 4-aco or AMT. Mushies have historically given me horrible tummy problems and hour-long waves of shits, but 4-aco and AMT felt very similar to mushies and did not make my tummy angry at all!
Solid, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!
If you’re interested in a comfier trip, I hope you’re able to find them someday! I was lucky and just stumbled across them via friend groups. I’ve tried everything basically… my friends all seem to like the 2c chems, but I’ve tried them all and haven’t been a fan. I HATE 25i. Hate hate hate. I spit out immediately. Ptooey.
AMT is very comfy, same with 4aco. I was a bit sad when we came down from those, and usually at the end of a trip, I’m very ready for it to be done. They both just felt like really clean mushy trips with no shitting.
5-MeO-DiPT was the WEIRDEST time I’ve ever had in my life. Insane body load, insane auditory distortion, and my only experience with temporal distortion… we were listening to a song we were extremely familiar with and the song would pitch down, our bodies would become heavy, and time would sloooowww doowwwnnn like the song was being played on a turntable at too low of an RPM. Absolutely insane feelings. I was SO happy it was over when we came down but I was also very happy I had that crazy experience.
Im going to save this but it sounds like those aren’t just various strains of mushies? and idk if id go out of my way to obtain drugs i cant cultivate myself. I like the idea of mushrooms and i have spores and stuff, just not motivated to grow a new batch.
Ive seen extracts of mushies, called “crystals of the gods” which is a dumb name but the only extraction method ive found, and thats what I want to try, because its supposed to completely get rid of the body problems associated with it, though not the enhancement of your natural mood (in my case mostly anxiety)
Im kinda afraid of human-made or refined drugs, tbh. What if i like them?
If I recall correctly, a lot of the gastric stuff is due to chitin in the cell walls, which humans generally can’t digest. Probably also related to the fact that most people eat them dry. I could be entirely repeating bro science, idk.
People have reported making tea with the mushrooms (unlike THC, psilocybin is water-soluble), or soaking them in lemon juice (idea, I think, is that the acidity breaks up the cell walls a bit more) prior to ingestion helps. Don’t trust me, though, look into these independently if it’s of interest.
I’ve heard of the crystals, but iirc there was some question if they’re really psilocybin. You can extract psilocybin into liquid, though. There’s reduced body load and little to no stomach issues or nausea. The method I used for making it is in one of the books by Virginia Haze and K Mandrake - I think the psilocybin chef cookbook, but not positive.
Basically, you soak the shrooms in everclear to get out as much of the psilocybin as you can, then let the everclear evaporate so you’re left with a tiny amount of very concentrated fluid. Just add 1ml to some juice and you’re on your way. Been a while since I did it and I screwed it up a little, but it was way more mellow than eating the raw shrooms while still being effective. I’ve still got the rest of the little vial I made in the freezer, for whenever I’m stable enough to handle it again.
Nawhhh those are not actually psilocybin, so if you’re only looking for mushies, you’d probably not be as into those! All of the things I mentioned are powders you eat, except 25i which is sold as acid but it tastes bad, is a bad feeling, and can harm or kill (unlike acid)
I don’t blame your apprehension! The things I’ve mentioned are once-per-year or once-ever drugs for me. I will only ever do 5-MeO-DiPT again because my current (forever) partner has never tried it and would like to. None of the things I’ve talked about are addictive, but they are man-made. Mephedrone is the most evil man-made chemical. It’s like ecstasy you sniff and it makes you feel REALLY good, for a little while. And then you can just do more. And there’s no hangover! …until you do it a few times. Then it becomes the most fiendy thing in the world, ever. I’ve tried everything and the only problems were alcohol, Xanax (both were not terrible to quit, just a few days of feeling not great and getting bad sleep.) Meth was fine but didn’t me wanna keep doing it. Opiates were okay but maybe just not for me, they felt cool but the only good type I’ve ever tried was smoking actual opium, that smelled awesome and felt nice.
But Mephedrone… the final time I did it, both nostrils were clogged and bloody and dry and I couldn’t breathe out of them and ALL I COULD DO was look at the white pile in front of us and watch my mates take lil toots and salivate, thinking “oh my god I would do ANYTHING to get more of that into me right now”. It was an all-consuming feeling and thought, encompassing my entire existence. Eating it doesn’t work very well and at that time, I hadn’t plugged anything (put it in my bum) or I would have taken a chunk of it and gone to the bathroom. It was THAT fiendy.
I woke up the next day smelling of cat piss (Mephedrone reeks) and was astonished something could make me feel that way. I vowed never to touch it again—I kept that vow.
That was like 15 years ago or so. If someone was like “I have a gram, wanna snort it” I would 100% say yes absolutely in a microsecond. But now I’m old and wiser and know I can’t just have piles around… the other worst part is how cheap it was. Five, ten USD a gram in bulk, and a gram is a LOT, takes you way further than a gram of coke.
Evil, addictive, fiendy shit. Don’t ever do it. But it’s fucking amazing. (I feel like I’m in that scene from Walk Hard the way I talk about it.)
Microdosing is also great. And so cheap/easy with acid.
Not that i stopped, and would absolutely have either if the opportunity ever presented its self again (probably not). I found that the older you get in general just makes it harder since, at least in my experience, you have way more to worry about that eats at you. Closer to death, more health issues, money could be worse than before, wife/husband and possibly kids to worry about. Stupid things i did in my early 20’s would never fly today just because I think things through way more and realize how bad those things were back then lol. Thankfully the few times i was able to do these things were all great experiences despite that, and its most likely to being with good friends who also joined.
Also, lsd lasts a LONG time, and it’s easier to find a whole day to fuck off into space when you’re younger. I’ve got a kid, I can’t get 12 minutes of free time at once, let alone 12 hours.
Exactly. Going on tour and dosing for a bunch of days and having a long enough time off to come down and just chill is not possible anymore.
Yeah that’s what’s stopped me…I used to trip the light fantastic, but anymore, the thought of ego death isn’t liberating, and as I’ve gotten older my background anxiety (set) seems to only go in one direction. Kids, House, work, etc… it’s a little late for me to tune out and drop out
damn, its been a few years but i hadn’t considered all that extra baggage weighing down a trip now that i am older.
but i think i am due for it. i think it is healthy to have a nice safe trip in a good environment.
i always feel so refreshed for like… 3 months-ish? after a trip
Or shrooms apparently between the nausea, inability to control my body temp and the crying I don’t want to do it again
I’m just too tired and busy. I had 4 tabs of acid in my psychedelic cupboard. Someone gave me more, now I have 7. One of these years I’ll get away and trip my balls off in a forest, but it’s not this year.
DMT only takes 15min 🫠
Ugh it’s so hard to break through though… out of 10+ times with n,n- I’ve only broken through a handful of times.
The most intense 15 minutes of my life each time, though…
I once told my buddy/plug about salvia, and in his questionable wisdom he decided that 20x extract was the way to go, because why waste money otherwise. When my turn came to partake, I managed to start inhaling as hard as I could. Not sure what happened after that, because my whole world turned into a cartoon kaleidoscope, and I forgot who the fuck I was and where. I knew that there was probably some extent of my physical being, and did the stereotypical gawking at my hands, and walked around just a bit, none of which helped in any way. About five minutes later I was back, but occasionally had momentary flashbacks to the irreality for a day or so.
Ugh yeeeep I feel you on salvia. I still have some 40x extract. I did it once and I hated it soooo much. I felt so weird, I kept hallucinating, the body load was awful, and I felt like I had flashbacks too hahaha.
n,n-DMT is the opposite of that. The body load is the heaviest of anything I’ve ever done, not even close. It smells like aliens. It tastes like aliens. You need to rip big rips three or four times in a row and hold it in to break through. Your body is SCREAMING at you to stop after the second rip. But if you manage… it’s the most actual legitimate magic thing in the world ever. Legitimately actual magical wonder. All of the jokes people make are true. I saw a color that doesn’t exist in the regular world. I can still see it in my mind and that was like 16 years ago. I don’t have the right crayons to show other people, but I do have a vial full of graham cracker-colored powder I’ve had for ages. I think it’s time to try breaking through again soon.
Why would you wanna trip balls in the forest? That’s how you become an acid trip for a bear.
It really depends on the forest but that’s where the best trips can happen.
You must not have heard of the Electric Forest Festival.
There are some bears, but not that kind.
I have. I figured there’s a lot of folks there. I mean more like by yourself.
Still personally, I wouldn’t. But I also have really bad luck. If it can go wrong for me, it will.
I’ve done both. Day tripping by myself in a hammock looking up at the pines swaying in the breeze, shit, I sat on the ground and just stared at lichen for a long time lmao. There’s nothing like it, incredible. But if I’d run into a bear, I’d have lost my shit lol.
I’d feel much less lackadaisical about it if I lived in grizzly country.
