• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    29 days ago

    They will tell you that AOC, Omar, and Mamdani aren’t really ‘Left’ because they sided with the Dems.

    Purity first last and always!

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      29 days ago

      I’ve seen people say that Mamdani is a traitor because he didn’t denounce the NYPD after that snowball incident.

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        29 days ago

        Ex-New York Mayor Ed Koch put it so simply.

        “If you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a psychiatrist.”

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          29 days ago

          Meanwhile, American leftists: “if I don’t agree with them 100% of the time they’re not a real leftist”

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            29 days ago

            actually it would be fucking nice if we could reach 50% agreement of the issues. too bad the establishment dems have more in common with republicans then their own base

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                  29 days ago

                  That is why you keep bringing up a single issue.

                  Did your abstaining help Palestine in any way, shape or form? Because Trump has made it worse than whatever Kamela would have done.

                  And your abstaining definitely made things worse for the rest outside of Palestine.

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                    I mean…if the democrats change their position and stop arming the genocide, then yes, it will have helped.

                    You say trump made it worse…I don’t see how; genocide is genocide…it was happening under Biden and it would have continued under Harris.

                    I didn’t make anything worse. The fascists did. Can you explain this ethical Rube Goldberg machine?

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              29 days ago

              They are alright and I wouldn’t mind seeing more people like them in our government. However, we have fundamentally different goals and major disagreements on policy that aren’t exactly reconciliable. I only said it would be nice to feel somewhat represented but I am aware that’s entirely unreasonable given my political agenda stands in direct contradiction to that of the people who run this country.

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                29 days ago

                Got it.

                Instead of looking at the world the way it actually is, and trying to do something helpful, you’ll dream about a perfect future.

                You’re like the guy who sees a house on fire and instead of grabbing a water bucket, goes into his basement to try and design a fireproof house.

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                  29 days ago

                  I actually do not know what you are talking about. The only statement I made here is that I feel unrepresented and wish it wasn’t that way. Where did you get the idea that I am politically uninvolved?

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      29 days ago

      Being opposition doesn’t make you left. These aren’t people that oppose capitalism they are people who want a capitalism that is easier on the domestic working class. At the expense of the imperial periphery of course, though this goes unsaid. I sort of like them but their end goal is not the destruction of capitalism.

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        Sorry to burst your bubble, but capitalism isn’t going anywhere in the US. You’re in a tiny echo chamber if you think that the wholesale destruction of capitalism is even a viable choice.

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          I don’t believe we are going to destroy capitalism. I believe capitalism is going to destroy itself (or most of the world which is kinda the same thing) and we have to prepare and alternative for when that happens. This belief does not come from online message boards it comes from reading innumerable books on political economy and history. The echo chamber is where I go to find like minded people.

          You are not bursting my bubble. I have existed in yours most of my life and understand it well. I have made a choice between two world views that I have plenty of experience with and I am satisfied with that choice.