And the democrats’ own analysis has shown that if Harris took a stand on Gaza she would have won easily, exactly as they were told before the election.
And if the democratic establishment had told Biden “you’re done” in (say) 2022/23, and had an actual primary (which Harris would have likely won in a walk) there would not have been the nasty taste of a coronation for people to contend with.
Gaza she would have won easily, exactly as they were told before the election.
I can’t respect anyone who’d blindly accept the Democrat line. Even worse is a person who would claim to hate the DNC, but get’s credulous when they say something that confirmed your priors.
And the democrats’ own analysis has shown that if Harris took a stand on Gaza she would have won easily, exactly as they were told before the election.
Afaik that was not released publicly, there were just a couple of people who had claimed to see it. Is it available now?
I don’t think Harris would have won at all. In 2020 she dropped before Iowa… That’s before any vote was even cast. Against Trump Biden polled the worst of all candidates, Harris polled the second worst. There is just no reason to think she would have ever earned that position on the ticket.
Exactly. She was chosen to be VP for two reasons. One, she was a woman of color. Two, she was a weak candidate.
Biden deliberately wanted an extremely weak vice president. He made a point to keep her out of the limelight. Contrast that to MAGA, who have been consciously building up JD Vance as a possible future figure for the movement. Trump and his handlers know that this is likely Trump’s last term. We like to doom about him running for a third term. But even if he could cheat the election, he just doesn’t have that much time left period. He’s unlikely to run again.
Biden however was intending to run for another term. And he knew that he would seem extremely old, weak, and out of touch. He didn’t want a younger dynamic VP that would so make him look so much worse in comparison. Biden kept Harris hidden away and never let her build up her clout and power base. They kept her out of public view and tried not to give her many chances to improve her image.
They selected a weak VP and kept her weak. Then when Biden was forced to drop out due to his disastrous debate performance, they were caught with their pants down.
Honestly, when Biden picked her I thought it was to build her up as a candidate. Why would you pick a VP from California? It’s not like you need to bolster your California vote as a Democrat. He initially said he would be there bridge to the next generation and I thought maybe he meant through her. But then he gave her all the impossible tasks and kept her out of view. None of it made sense to me.
It made sense precisely because she wasn’t ever going to win a primary on her own. Biden acted like Trump here. Trump surrounds himself with people who have zero future without him. His cabinet is filled with profoundly unqualified people whose only real qualification is unwavering loyalty to Trump. This is a classic move of authoritarian leaders, as their advisors then become completely dependent on them. Once Trump is out of office, Hegseth is never going to have a role in government again. (Unless some other authoritarian president is seeking a loyal lackey.)
Biden did a less extreme version of this with Kamala. Kamala certainly wasn’t objectively unqualified for her job like Hegseth is, but she also could never had obtained a leadership position in the White House via her own merits.
I think you massively underestimate how dissatisfied people were with not just the genocide in gaza, but the feeling that the party wasn’t in the slightest democratic because of it.
No she was against genocide didn’t you hear? Just because you want to put the gas in the concentration camp shower, doesn’t mean you’re committing genocide if it’s someone else pressing the button to release it.
And the democrats’ own analysis has shown that if Harris took a stand on Gaza she would have won easily, exactly as they were told before the election.
And if the democratic establishment had told Biden “you’re done” in (say) 2022/23, and had an actual primary (which Harris would have likely won in a walk) there would not have been the nasty taste of a coronation for people to contend with.
I can’t respect anyone who’d blindly accept the Democrat line. Even worse is a person who would claim to hate the DNC, but get’s credulous when they say something that confirmed your priors.
Afaik that was not released publicly, there were just a couple of people who had claimed to see it. Is it available now?
I don’t think Harris would have won at all. In 2020 she dropped before Iowa… That’s before any vote was even cast. Against Trump Biden polled the worst of all candidates, Harris polled the second worst. There is just no reason to think she would have ever earned that position on the ticket.
Exactly. She was chosen to be VP for two reasons. One, she was a woman of color. Two, she was a weak candidate.
Biden deliberately wanted an extremely weak vice president. He made a point to keep her out of the limelight. Contrast that to MAGA, who have been consciously building up JD Vance as a possible future figure for the movement. Trump and his handlers know that this is likely Trump’s last term. We like to doom about him running for a third term. But even if he could cheat the election, he just doesn’t have that much time left period. He’s unlikely to run again.
Biden however was intending to run for another term. And he knew that he would seem extremely old, weak, and out of touch. He didn’t want a younger dynamic VP that would so make him look so much worse in comparison. Biden kept Harris hidden away and never let her build up her clout and power base. They kept her out of public view and tried not to give her many chances to improve her image.
They selected a weak VP and kept her weak. Then when Biden was forced to drop out due to his disastrous debate performance, they were caught with their pants down.
Honestly, when Biden picked her I thought it was to build her up as a candidate. Why would you pick a VP from California? It’s not like you need to bolster your California vote as a Democrat. He initially said he would be there bridge to the next generation and I thought maybe he meant through her. But then he gave her all the impossible tasks and kept her out of view. None of it made sense to me.
It made sense precisely because she wasn’t ever going to win a primary on her own. Biden acted like Trump here. Trump surrounds himself with people who have zero future without him. His cabinet is filled with profoundly unqualified people whose only real qualification is unwavering loyalty to Trump. This is a classic move of authoritarian leaders, as their advisors then become completely dependent on them. Once Trump is out of office, Hegseth is never going to have a role in government again. (Unless some other authoritarian president is seeking a loyal lackey.)
Biden did a less extreme version of this with Kamala. Kamala certainly wasn’t objectively unqualified for her job like Hegseth is, but she also could never had obtained a leadership position in the White House via her own merits.
What makes you think Harris would have handily won a primary?
She was the VP and had the backing of the DNC, and even being somewhat unpopular that’s a pretty massive advantage.
I think you massively underestimate how dissatisfied people were with not just the genocide in gaza, but the feeling that the party wasn’t in the slightest democratic because of it.
Harris said she was against genocide and would do everything to stop Israel except stop selling weapons.
Trump promised genocide.
Americans chose Trump.
The lesson is that to win the election, Harris should have promised to kill more Palestinians than Trump. It’s what Americans want.
So she would have done nothing.
No she was against genocide didn’t you hear? Just because you want to put the gas in the concentration camp shower, doesn’t mean you’re committing genocide if it’s someone else pressing the button to release it.
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