That is horrific.
Our species is the worst.
Thankfully, we seem to be intent on ensuring our environment makes us extinct.
Indeed. I’m so glad I never had kids.
On the flip side, I’m glad I did. They fulfill my life in more ways than I could have imagined.
That doesn’t make either one of us right of course, I’m glad you’re happy with your decision because I’ve met those in the past who regretted it. Mine don’t want them either, well at least for now.
What it does make us is CAMPIONES…sorry, wrong place.
How are you today anyway
I edited this too, I added a sentence in the centre
What kind of life are they going to have facing climate disaster, the end of democracy and the emergence of technofacism, but hey, you got yours, right?
Regardless what happens in the future I’ll wager theirs isn’t as miserable as yours, currently.
I hope your day gets better.
That’s the point, it’s likely going to get much worse.
For you
May she rest in peace…
Religion is cancer, only thing is that I don’t pretend christianity is the reason why we have secularism, or why murder is illegal.
Words cannot describe the hatred I feel for people that hurt kids.
Women in Iraq have been treated like absolute dirt and their literacy rates have plumeted from 99% under Saddam to around 50% last time I checked.
The breakdown of law and order is a direct result of American and Israeli interference and overthrow of Saddam after a decade of sanctions in the 90s.
Israel has been trying to crush Iraq for much longer and wanted it to be a failed state since the 1970s. Prior to Saddam even. This is the fate they want for all Arab countries.
Another disastrous Conservative outcome. They are always complaining about how incompetent government is, but it’s not the government that’s incompetent, it’s THEM.
No they only want Palestine bro. Just one more bro.
I was curious and looked up adult women literacy rates for women in Iraq and this shows 64% literacy rate for women with 15+ years age in 2000 and 78% in 2021 for the same category. For female youths aged 15-24 it rose from 80% to 91% over the same time period (though in the intervening period that did indeed drop to 72-73% in their stats during the chaos of the Iraq War).
It’s great when people bring the receipts and take the time to source a comment. Seriously, thank you.
I needed to look them up.
and this shows 64% literacy rate for women with 15+ years age in 2000 and 78% in 2021 for the same category
It’s a very thin data set. One entry for 2000. Nothing beforehand. Then nothing for 12 years that just happen to occur during the height of invasion and mass displacement of the population.
Wikipedia would suggest the literacy rate was high prior to 2000. After the invasion, there’s very mixed data, with high enrollment rates conbined with high dropout and grade repeat rates. But it’s an article plagued with dead links, so…
I don’t think it’s controversial to say the war and mass displacement resulted in declining standards for education.
It’s a very thin data set. One entry for 2000. Nothing beforehand. Then nothing for 12 years that just happen to occur during the height of invasion and mass displacement of the population.
I’m happy to see any data you have, that’s why I looked because 99% seemed incredibly high and the drop to 50% horrible and I wanted to check out that data. I agree this is sparse though it does ultimately come from UNESCO. There is a point on the 15-24 year old female youth graph for 2006 which is in the middle of that and another on 2011, which were the 72-73% I acknowledged. A decline of 8% for the youth until it started recovering in 2012 onward is what this particular source gives.
Wikipedia would suggest the literacy rate was high prior to 2000. After the invasion, there’s very mixed data, with high enrollment rates conbined with high dropout and grade repeat rates. But it’s an article plagued with dead links, so…
Where that Wikipedia article says “literacy levels were high” you can see that it also links to links to World Bank Open Data - the same source I used - except unsuccessfully. I would disagree that it was high based on World Bank Open Data though. If you look up global 15+ year old women’s literacy rates, the global average in 2000 was 76% so 64% in Iraq looks kind of bad comparatively.
I don’t think it’s controversial to say the war and mass displacement resulted in declining standards for education
I agree and that matches up with the drop in literacy rates for young women (whose ongoing education you would expect to be more affected by war in eight years of their childhood than for the adults). I was commenting just with respect to the stats because I was surprised.
Either way the war fucked up Iraq in ways that will take generations to fix.
The headline is misleading. The article is even worse.
The girl was not killed for refusing to marry. The girl ran away from home over the marriage (the strategy had worked for her to get out of her first marriage, at age 13). She was caught by a neighbor who did something bad to her (she did not want to say what and her family did not want to hear it). When her family found her 3 days later, they killed her for hiding at the neighbor’s house (despite the fact that she was taken there unwillingly).
All of this is in the article. I don’t understand why you have 40 people agreeing with you.
Can’t tap just scroll
Why wouldn’t people up vote? The original comment said the main article was worse than the headline, and summarised why they thought so. What are you objecting to?
The…wrongness…The article is not even worse. The article says exactly what he claims it doesn’t. And regardless, the point is that she was ultimately killed because she tried to escape. The family’s justification is worthless, and irrelevant.
Worse as in the actions described are even more vile, not inaccurate.
The headline is misleading. The article is even worse
Those two sentences together cannot possibly be referring to the actions.
That’s why need strict migration policies to prevent those views from coming to europe…
hey look! racism isn’t just in America anymore!
the europoors are gonna be pissed.
It’s always been a universal human failing.
TIL failing is when you want to protect your society from those who sell women into sexual slavery, refuse those women education and then murder them for being rape victims.
what the fuck are you talking about?
Try reading the article, then read the comments in the comment chain in order.
If you’re still lost on what I’m talking about please consult a doctor regarding your cognitive decline.
this whole subthread was about racism. it had nothing to do with whatever you said.
It was about migration and not allowing people who treat women like this into Europe but you’d know that if you could recall more than one comment at a time.
I wasn’t aware the AFD was formed outside Germany or by immigrants. Same ideology, different flavor.
Islam not being mentioned even once, funny.
It’s the religion of peace!
So you’re saying this is exclusive to Islam.
Nope, I am not. Non sequitur, nice try.
Then why did you bring it up specifically?
The recent push in NC to essentially allow people to murder women that try to abort their pregnancy is based on an extreme distortion of Christianity. It’s fair to say this is the current state of the religion and it’s fair to say this is an unholy bastardization of the religion. In either of these extremes it’s clear that someone’s ideology is taking priority over their humanity.
By “extreme distortion” don’t you mean “following the supplied manual”? Isn’t the peace and love hippy shit the actual distortion? Yahweh is a spiteful, vengeful, mean god after all.
God is, but he clearly says in the bible vengeance is his domain (Romans 12:19) and humans aren’t allowed to do it. That’s the kinda dick he is.
I understood it directly incited stonings
As a non-american, it took me a detour to the all-feed to recignize NC. I agree with everything you said, and I don’t want to - in any form or shape - absolve the misanthropic facists or their spitefilled useful, radicalized idiot “soldies” by pointing out this religion.
I do however take an issue in the “unholy alliance” (europes) “left” has made with Islam some time ago. This alliance is implicitly understood by basically everyone, but only solemnly mentioned (especially in a critial light) in left circles, although I read some excellent essays about it.
I do however take an issue in the “unholy alliance” (europes) “left” has made with Islam some time ago.
You mean allowing refugees to enter? God forbid…
Exactly
Damn! on the one hand, humans are doing innovation in science and technology and on the other hand, such barbaric things still exist in this world.
It exists everywhere but in differents forms. In east it is family sanctioned rape of children in west it is money sanctioned rape of children. In some of these cases, people doing cutting edge science are involved, either as willing observers or possibly active participants. Common denominator is humans.
Over 260k people killed in the Iraq War, mostly civilians, over $1 trillion spent, over nearly 9 years, just so we could have another Afghanistan.
Religion of peace, I see.
I think women should not flee from such households before doing a few necessary things to enact collective punishment on their collective opressor - the family - via suitable methods.
It’s not hard to figure out how to do maximum damage. The mistake of opressing a woman should be remembered in the family for decades.
I agree but it seems to me that they have so few rights that I think they’ve largely been rendered incapable in these fucked up families.
Are you seriously man-splaining
The YPJ needs to be everywhere
I had not heard of the YPJ before. Remarkable group!
…minus the child soldiers part.
Tbf the labeling of child soldiers is kinda misleading considering that the vast majority of them are 15-17 years old. At that age you can join most military organizations around the world with parental permission. Alternatively most countries have military schools, where active duty military personnel are training teens to become soldiers.
That doesnt make it better for me so much as pointing out how bad others are as well.
But I also think 18 is too young for war too, so there’s that.
I’d also note - vast majority <> all.
That doesnt make it better for me so much as pointing out how bad others are as well.
My main point was that there is a discrepancy about how we speak about or label the actions of certain cultures or groups of people as opposed to the same actions taken by westerner nations.
I’d also note - vast majority <> all.
There are younger recruits, but I believe they are more a kin to being in military school, being taught tactics and self defense. I believe the official age for combat roles is 18.
Yeah, and I’m saying that doesnt make it better for me. Not for them, not for others.
I think its shitty having anyone with ‘teen’ in their age going off to fight or prepping for it.
Yeah, and I’m saying that doesnt make it better for me. Not for them, not for others.
My response wasn’t aimed at making you feel better. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of a specific criticism often aimed at the ypj when several western powers do the same thing.
think its shitty having anyone with ‘teen’ in their age going off to fight or prepping for it.
Yes, war is obviously bad.
UNICEF labels anyone enlisted under 18 as a child soldier, and lobbies those governments who follow the practice to stop. Most countries now have changed to 18+, but there are some holdouts as low as 16 (Britain).
Its 17 in the US, and nearly every decent sized high school and some middle schools in America have Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps program.
As an Iraqi, I feel like I need to address some extremely serious inaccuracies in the article:
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The Nine year-old marriage thing: This lasted less than a month and was cancelled due to the sheer amount of protest against it. I know, that’s still unbelieavable how it even reached Iraq in the first place. But this case happened far after the law was cancelled and is illegal, the family’s lewd business might have been a reason(?) Although sadly women’s rights are still limited.
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The case is even worse than the article interprets it: The man did not hide her in dirt, he literally dumped her in mud in the middle of a garbage place. And the police only arrested him after the evidence was very undeniable (They were allegedly bribed).
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The underage marriage and woman’s rights dismissing protest: This was a very small protest and many protestors there got their fair share of violence.
NOTE: I live in Baghdad, other cities might have different laws, but this article mentioned the incident was in Baghdad too, so maybe it was either not very recent, or maybe that lewd law got re-implemented and I just don’t know it yet.
thank you for adding context from a local,. one of the great things about this place
Thank you so much! I honestly expected to be in the negative score with people not believing me, but wow…
Maybe Lemmy is less harsh than Reddit afterall.
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