• Zozano@aussie.zone
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      26 days ago

      It is endlessly hilarious to me how the narrative has shifted from being a right wing conspiracy, and with a little PR spin…

      “a specific far-right Israeli government has extraordinary leverage over a specific US administration”

      is fact the left can agree on.

      But here’s the thing… Netanyahu has been in the top spot for 17 of the last 29 years.

      At what point does it stop being a far-right Israeli government doing this, and simply become a default setting?

      Who would’ve thought a theocracy was a bad fucking idea?

  • zloubida@sh.itjust.works
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    26 days ago

    That’s antisemitism. Israel ≠ Jews, and please don’t perpetuate the racist trope that Jews are the bosses of politicians.

    Continue with that kind of messages, and you’ll just justify the disgusting propaganda of Netanyahu.

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      26 days ago

      Jewish people who support the orange regime and Netanyahu and Israel’s apartheid do orders of magnitude more to advance the cause of antisemitism worldwide than criticism of said Jewish supporters does.

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      Israel is a vile terrorist state hell bent on destroying western order in their unending quest to colonize and steal land from their Arab neighbors. They call this the greater Israel project, and there’s a map of said vision hanging in their offices in the Knesset. Make no mistake, they are out to steal land and ethnically cleanse any who oppose them.

      What’s worse, due to corrupt and idiotic decisions by the Supreme Court allowing the purchase of US politicians, as well as massive amounts of pedophilic blackmail collected by Jeffrey Epstein, a known Mossad agent, Israel has completely captured the American government. They work for Israel, not America, and it’s shameful to watch. If you ask me, since they love Israel so much, they should just move there and work at the Knesset instead.

      But I digress. None of this necessarily has anything to do with Jewish beliefs. You are the one conflating these things, and this is a classic tactic used by Israelis to derail any sort of criticism whatsoever of the country’s terrible actions. Is it so hard for you to understand this premise of Israeli regulatory capture of US politicians, and to see how this post alludes to that grim reality?

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        26 days ago

        You are the one conflating these things

        […]

        Is it so hard for you to understand this premise of Israeli regulatory capture of US politicians, and to see how this post alludes to that grim reality?

        Don’t you see the contradiction here?

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        It ain’t hard to find out.

        The Jewish delegation reflected a broad cross-section of rabbinic and communal leadership.

        Rabbi Levi Shemtov, Executive Vice President of American Friends of Lubavitch (Chabad) in Washington, DC, was joined by Rabbi Chaim David Zwiebel of Agudath Israel, the mayors of Kiryas Joel and New Square, Rabbi David Niederman of Satmar in Williamsburg, Rabbi Moshe Margaretten of the Tzedek Association, Rabbi Meir Soloveichik of New York’s Spanish and Portuguese Synagogue.

        Also in attendance were Holocaust survivor Jerry Worski, Council Member of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum Jonathan Burkan, investor Paul Packer, Holocaust Memorial Council Chairman Jeff Miller, Matt Brooks of the Republican Jewish Coalition, and Rabbi Harold Loss of Temple Israel in West Bloomfield, Michigan, recently targeted in an antisemitic attack.

        Joining them from New Jersey was Edan Alexander, a released hostage from Gaza, who attended together with his parents.

        Now you know.

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          26 days ago

          I somewhat agree, in the end we don’t really know if these people support Israels ongoing genocide or not. Would these people support a free Palestine? Or would they hasbara their way out of it?

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            Why do you have such an intense desire to sort these Jews into good or evil? Would you want to that with any other group?

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              Because there are Jews in Israel that are murdering Palestinians. Jews cheering when they hear bombs go off in Gaza, forming paramilitary groups to destroy Palestinian homes and murdering them if they resist. Since many of the people in this picture are heads of Jewish groups that have Israel in their name, I remain sceptical of whether they are homicidal, fascist pieces of shit or just normal people performing public relations with a fascist president, disregarding the names of the organizations they lead and their heritage.

              I question whether or not these people are connected to an active genocide and whether they support it.

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                  If they can ostensibly be connected to an organization that supports genocide, then yes. The organizations these people control have Israel in the name, they are connected to the Republican party, are likely conservatives as many orthodox Jews are and they are happily in a room with Donald Trump. So, I rightfully question if these people support Israels genocide.

                  So look dumbass, I’ll be super clear for you: I have no opinion on the people in the picture. I question whether or not they support genocide but that’s it. Without anything else to go on there is no conclusion. So stop trying to paint me as antisemitic and shove your hasbara up your ass.

      • zloubida@sh.itjust.works
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        I know enough to recognize Jews; if you name racist generalizations just because you see Jews you’re racist.

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          Trump is a Zionist. If he’s meeting with visibly Jewish people it’s reasonable to ask if they’re Zionist. The political establishment wants to erase non-zionist jews.

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      It’s actually YOU who conflated Jewish people with Israel. You can search through all of my posts and comments here. You will not find one example of me making that connection. But you have, by accusing me of it.

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        you’re doing the same thing racists do when they’re called out for being racist.

        “actually by acknowledging racism exists, YOU are the racist one”

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    This is fucking nazi shit. They’re not Israelis, they’re Jews. This shit furthers the Zionist agenda of conflating all Jews with Israel. This is exactly the kind of post I’d expect to see on a nazi message board.

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    Antisemitic BS. For the record: I hate Israel. But this is like the most classic antisemitism that is out there. Go rot somewhere, Adolf.

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    26 days ago

    Ridiculously Anti-Semitic.

    Conflating religious jews with right-wing isrealis is obviously stereotyping, but let’s set that aside…

    No one is controlling Donald Trump. No one is forcing him to do things. Donald Trump is bombing Iran because he wants to feel powerful, not because he is being manipulated by a shadowy figure behind the scenes (also an anti-semitic trope).

    If you posted this, or upvoted this, or chuckled reading this then you’re a stupid person and if you’d been born in a rural red county you’d be the a huge trump supporter.

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      Anti-semites are having a field day playing around in the current negative sentiment people have towards right-wing Israeli politics. Never seen them so comfortable with their shit now that they can retreat behind the atrocious war crimes Israel is committing to flip the script as soon as someone sees through it.

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      26 days ago

      “Donald Trump is bombing Iran because he wants to feel powerful”

      No. He’s bombing Iran because Obama made a joke about him and everybody laughed.

      Suggesting he’s doing it to feel powerful gives him so much more credit than he deserves.