• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    Where does this guy work work that has him in a position capable of “saving the company” but without either correspondingly high pay or stock options?

    • Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      9 days ago

      All of us health care workers saved both society and lives. Called heroes by management.

      I still havent got my vacation days back from the cancelled vacations during the pandemic (was promised days, got money because “ledighet ges enligt vad verksamheten tillåter”, which means the by law stipulated periods or you are out of luck, and my last raise was around 3%. Doesnt quite make me feel valued as a hero and now Im going to school for blue collar workshop education

      • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        A lot of those smaller businesses also recognize that effort at least a little bit. It can be simple stuff like bringing a work van home, being able to borrow tools, throwing the odd lunch or coffee on the company card. Sure its not life changing bonuses or benefits but its better than nothing.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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          9 days ago

          That hasn’t been my experience working for Mom and pop companies. A lot of claims that everyone here is family, mean the fail son or daughter in a do nothing position for the company is getting paid more for doing less.

  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    9 days ago

    Working hard just makes you seen as a dependable asset for a single position. Managers see that as one thing they don’t have to worry about anymore. By moving you to a higher position they could be risking a dependable asset for an asset that could be potentially out of their depth.

    People move up the chain mostly by interpersonal relationships and by being generally competent, but not being irreplaceable. In corporate America it’s always been who you know, not what you know.

  • bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    Bullshit. I started my career in 1986, it didn’t work then either.

    And when i look back at my father and grandfather’s lives, i have to say that only worked between 1939 to about 1970. That’s when all the factories started closing and they begin moving everything overseas.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      9 days ago

      1970 is when kissenger “opened” up china do all the manufactering it was all pretty my downhill for us manufacterering. especially for unique electronics/ or devices.

  • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I saved a hotel chain millions during an outage. I got $1,000 bonus.

    The second time, I got a pat on the back and no raise that year.

    Fuck corporations

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      Bonuses are bullshit because they don’t touch your salary, and they get taxed extra. When I got mine, I was far more insulted than happy. Same situation as you, they didn’t give me a raise that year.

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        8 days ago

        Where do they get taxed extra? To my understanding, it’s considered regular income in Canada and the US.

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          8 days ago

          The US handles it in an incredibly stupid way. Bonuses typically get a larger amount withheld as tax and the government pays you back when you calculate your total income at the end of the year.

    • TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz
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      9 days ago

      When my huge, multinational company announced one year of total grind for everyone, they said there would be rewards to make up for it.
      Fast forward one year and the #1 top performer received… a diner with the CEO. And nothing else.
      I wish I was joking.

    • underscores@lemmy.zip
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      9 days ago

      I can’t even enumerate the times I’ve saved my company from turning into dust

      I was the single person responsible to ensure our database had no issues deploying by writing end to end tests that used real workflows, guess what ? surprise ! lots of database locking issues, issues with database transactions, issues with the application straight up crashing.

      Fixed that days before our live deployment to a handshake.

      TBH eventually they did give me a huge raise and at the moment of writing this I do think I’m being paid accordingly, but back then I was like damn shit is cringe.

  • jj4211@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Heh, back in the day my workplace was abuzz about the very loudly proclaimed bonus that I got for some allegedly multiple million dollar save. They recognized me very publicly, but left the bonus vague, leading to speculation about if I would show up in a nice sports car or maybe even move into a house with the bonus…

    It was a 100 dollar gift card to an area restaurant.

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    Another thing to think about.

    Back in 1960, when the minimum wage was $1.00/hour, two people could have dinner and drinks for $5.00.

    Last time I ate in a restaurant, it was over $50.00 just for me.

    • Liana@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      So that would correspond to a min wage of $20 per hour, whereas people were bitching hard about my area going up to $15.

      If wages kept up, I think a lot of things would be easier. As is, ya got too much greed up high.

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        8 days ago

        But they don’t even do anything with that greed. Some idiot has a trillion dollars to his name and his impact in the world is negligible to his contemporaries. All of them want more to have more and do nothing with it.

      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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        8 days ago

        Here’s a very brief history of the death of the US middle class.

        LBJ thought he could win the Vietnam war in six months by going in with a massive build up and heavy bombing. Instead he got caught up in a huge, unpopular mess that was costing more than he could afford. LBJ starts printing money to pay for it and people start noticing that prices are starting to creep up.

        Nixon wins in 1968, promising to end the war. Instead, he triple downs on Johnson’s failed polices and really cuts loose. America’s aging steel mills are working 24/7 building bombs and can’t keep up. Japan and Germany can’t get US steel and start building their own plants. These modern steel mills use much less power than America’s WW2 era factories.

        Arab Oil Embargo hits. Prices for everything jump and suddenly everyone in America wants a Toyota or a Nissan. The War ends and all those bomb contracts vanish.

        By this time married women are flooding into the job market. It’s because it now takes two incomes to pay for a house.

        Jimmy Carter and Paul Volker [Carter’s head of the Fed] have a plan to actually stop inflation. Carter is out of office before the plan kicks in. Ronald Reagan keeps Carter’s plan and takes the credit for it.

        Reagan triples the national debt with unpaid for tax cuts.

        In 1968, ‘middle class’ was one Union job supporting a family of four. At the time $1 million was considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. left office, ‘middle class’ was two incomes to run the house and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.

  • eodur@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    I read the Four Hour Work Week early on and it showed me the light. Working hard does not get you more money. You gotta work the system to get more money. It’s about managing expectations and appearances. Now more so than ever.

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      9 days ago

      I listened to that episode of If Books Could Kill (podcast). It boils down to grifting, if I recall correctly (that’s usually the story of the books they cover).

      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 days ago

        It boils down to grifting

        That’s literally all of capitalism. The existence of companies at all is dependent on their ability to sell products and services for more than the inputs that go into them. Profit is literally just bullshitting people into paying more for something than it is worth.

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        8 days ago

        It 100% is and the guy is clearly a douche bag, BUT it changed the way I look at work. At the end of the day success at most jobs is based on how effective people perceive you to be.

  • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
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    9 days ago

    Never work more than you are paid. No company will ever reciprocate. They’ll just take your labor and give you a token “reward” worth almost nothing.

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    9 days ago

    I worked at one place working may ARSE off deploying a solution. Pulled all nighters regularly to get it done. I got a 20$ Xmas voucher to KMART. FUCKING KMART.

    That was when I decided I’d work just enough to not get fired.

    ugh

  • godsammitdam@lemmy.zip
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    9 days ago

    And how many of us are working paycheck to paycheck still?

    Wonder if that might correlate a tidbit.

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    9 days ago

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.

    The greatest trick capitalists ever pulled was convincing the world that hard work pays off.

  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    This is so 'Murican

    In civilised countries, we see the way you grind yourselves into dust for the benefit of people who despise you and we see it as an illness

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s a societal illness. Most of us are just paid slaves at this point. We can’t survive without the paychecks from these awful employers.

      A single medical bill can break most working class families here. If you try to tell your employer you’re not happy, you end up being seen as ungrateful - you’ll be the first to be laid off in the next wave.

      We’re not allowing this, it’s being done to us. And if we love our families, we will continue on.

  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I literally saved my company twice. We were a small company providing contract programmers to a huge cable company (rhymes with Bombast), producing their mobile apps for them for iPhone, Android and Blackberry. When I started, we had just lost the Android gig because of the sheer ineptness of our offshore team (ironically enough, the gig was given to InfoSys who managed to do an even worse job). We were about to be shitcanned completely because we unable to produce a working TV guide-type application for Blackberry, thanks to the fact that no built-in control for Blackberry was able to handle a moving grid like a TV guide app requires. I produced probably the best mobile app I’ve ever written because I had experience with using Graphics classes for Java and was able to write an entirely owner-drawn control for this.

    Unfortunately this was in 2011 as Blackberry was going through its death throes, so this really achieved nothing other than making Bombast want to keep paying us to stay around. A year later we faced getting shitcanned again because we were way behind schedule on the iOS app, thanks to an estimate that I had nothing to do with (our company very intelligently never involved actual programmers in these schedule estimates). I spent an entire week literally living in the Bombast building, coding all day and most of the night, sleeping a couple of hours a night in my George Costanza setup underneath my cubicle desk. We barely made the release schedule and Bombast kept us on again. The vulture capitalist who originally funded us had been ready to stop operations and fire everybody for some time, but this was put on hold.

    Shortly after this, we were acquired by a west coast tech giant and us programmers were all laid off. The C-suite got millions in stock options, and I got … a very nice letter of reference when I applied for my school bus driver job. I’m thankful at least that I never had to deal with AI.

    • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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      7 days ago

      Exactly you didn’t do them a single favor, they would have gladly let the company shut down and move on to the next scam. If anything by working incredibly hard and creatively, you just made it a little awkward for them. “Wdym comcast isn’t firing us? That kid saved the contract?? But I already started on the next scam!”

      Im in a similar position we’ve been borderline bankrupt for two years now and everyone above me is less concerned that I am because i work with the hourly people and don’t want them to lose their jobs. The ceo is really like ambivalent if it’s better to keep the company going. This is one of several businesses he’s involved in and the $300K salary is just walking around money for him.