Editorial: If the ceasefire holds, Donald Trump’s ill-starred foray into the Middle East will have left the Iranian regime stronger than it was before the conflict
  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    Iran gained political ground, and America lost political ground, and has to pay $300 million on top of it. That’s pretty much the definition of losing.

  • stevebot980@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I disagree, America has Not lost “it’s war” with Iran, trump is an Operative working Against the United States and successfully got Iran a better deal Against the United States and our official stance on Iran. He is a traitor that worked against the US on behalf of our enemies to their benefit.

    • Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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      4 days ago

      Hey buddy, the “this is not who we are!” nonsense has always been ridiculous, but is particularly insane after Trump was elected, for the second time, with the popular vote.

      The fact that you think your enemies are external is part of what makes America so able to be evil.

  • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    MoU or not, an unstable region has been rendered even more dangerous by the unforced war of choice launched and America. The world will be coping with its repercussions for months, if not years.

    Yeah, the Middle East is inherwntly unstable and then this totally unrelated foreign meddling happened. ::eyeroll::

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    4 days ago

    We got a black eye and we deserved it. Someone should bloody our nose, too, to make sure we got the message. Fucking stupid.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    usa could have won the war but trump had a date with a tween at a very crucial juncture in the negotiations and missed a “war winning” opportunity. /s

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    No, we didn’t lose.

    We surrendered.

    And you know what? Sure. That’s the right move. We shouldn’t have fucking invaded them to begin with.

    Fucking Trump. What a goddamn moronic dumbass he is.

    • pigup@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      What a goddamn moronic dumbass he is prolific executor and efficient implementer of putin’s and xi’s blackmail demands on him

      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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        4 days ago

        Pretty sure you have to have shame to be blackmailed. We all know what trump did, he doesn’t give a shit.

        • pigup@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          Bro, there is video and picture evidence this guy joyously ritualistically torturing, raping, and killing children and babies.

          In case you you haven’t had your soul ripped out yet, go on a little quest to find out what “u9 red pizza party” means in the Epstein files.

          He’s not running away from shame. He’s running away from the death penalty.

        • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 days ago

          Don’t forget the Trump files, that Epstein collected on him for the Mossad to force them into war together with Israel if needed, like with Iran for example, and which Epstein also sold pieces of to Putin.

            • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              4 days ago

              Mate, it’s literally documented that Epstein was gaining blackmail material on his guests because he was being paid by the Mossad. Next to that the leaks from the Kremlin said Putin has blackmail material on Trump as well, which are Epstein file related things.

              Chemtrails, flat earth, fake moonlanding, lizard people etc are all bullshit conspiracies. Epstein working for the Mossad is just proven fact, as well as him gaining blackmail evidence on his guests including diaper Donny.

              The idea Israel is using this blackmail material in these times where the Epstein files keep on being a bugger to Trump, to pull the US into a war with Iran, is indeed a conspiracy. But it’s one that actually has a high probability of being factual true.

  • RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Americans, especially the Government, all have a collective delusion that the United States place in the world is just the way it was right after WW2 and nothing will ever change it. Over the next decade or so, reality will continue setting in…

    • CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip
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      4 days ago

      Emphasis on the government… and those uneducated southerners who think that a pedophile makes a better president than a woman

  • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    I’m happy with this result. I was rooting against America for the whole conflict.

    I am rooting against America in general.

    America has a big ego and is subservient to Israel. It needs to be humbled so it can stop flexing its nuts and start taking care of its own people.

    I say this as one of those people in America watching America punish transwomen instead of combating food insecurity…

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Operation Epic Failure. The primary shows was in the southern Lebanon and the West Bank, while the MAGA led fiasco was the side show.