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Money grubbing monopolistic shit bags.
But then they have generations of brainwashed G*mers ready to buy any old shite with the Steam name on it.
I wanted one, but not for this much. Glad I got the first gen steam deck when I could. Steam deck + dock is pretty much the same thing.
ITT: (Car Announcement)
No thanks. 0/10 POS. I mean I already have a functioning automobile
???
It’s funny to see that when the main console makers all raised their prices for the same reasons as this thing is expensive everyone was like “Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft are so greedy! They hate their consumers!”
And this thing being overpriced it’s “oh sweet baby angel Gabe, we know the hardships upon thee in thine many literal ships at sea. Please accept my money.”
I’m joking here so calm down Steam nerds.
But I do think some folks need to realize none of these companies want to jack up their prices like this. Everyone wants to make a profit, sure, but AI is screwing everyone.
This makes me wonder about the next time we have to buy new phones …
Gonna get skewered for this take but… that’s slightly better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be 1500 USD at the minimum.
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OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
I disagree. The Deck and Controller each had their queues announced at least a week ahead of time. The queue for the Steam Machine kinda just shadowdropped in comparison. Plus a raffle doesn’t penalize anyone for having work or living in a timezone where they’d normally be asleep.
Given the circumstances it’s pretty fair.
Even with an announcement ahead of time it’s so much better imo. Doesn’t penalize people for having to work or just living in a timezone where it’s the middle of the night.
Sure it feels like you have less agency over when you get it but it’s so much fairer.
Yeah 10:00 a.m. is perfectly reasonable but it converts to 6:00 p.m. UK time 7:00 p.m. for a lot of Europe, that’s kind of late in the day to be trying to order something and I think it’s the middle of the night in Australia. This does seem better.
They will sell out instantly and this blocks the scalpers.
Oh yeah sorry, I don’t mean to say they’re wrong for doing it. I just mean that scalpers are now so prolific that this is the only way to ensure fair purchases, that’s the fucked part.
randomization is to determine the order of receipt
… that’s high demand, sheesh
It’s not a raffle anyone who joins the list will get a device it’s just when you get it. It’s a countermeasure to stop bots from being used to scalp the machines. I’m sure if you’re not that bothered about getting it in the first week or so you can just hold off and then it’ll go to normal purchasing after that.
Valve seem to have been pretty good so far about keeping scalpers from becoming part of their distribution network. Compared to the shit we saw with the PS5, for example.
i mean, i just entered a raffle. but it’s for free music tix at stern grove in san francisco. that’s the kind of raffle i’ll enter.
I actually wish they did concert tickets like this. I might actually occasionally be able to go to one.
My dude I am not bullshitting you. It’s free too
Entered the lottery a couple days ago to see the violent femmes, and the lottery for patti labelle opens Sunday.
I have a friend who listens to the radio at work. When there’s a contest, she calls in. Gets tickets to everything, because who calls in to the radio nowadays?
I’m a live music junkie though. Open mic nights are one of my favorite things.
OH NO brother they’re RAFFLING IT!? hahahaha that’s fucked
I’m actually glad to see it. A raffle is one of the only realistic ways to deter scalpers while still leaving the console eventually accessible to people who actually want to play on it. Fuck scalpers; anything that hurts them is a win in my book.
I mean, yeah, fuck scalpers. But valve’s global market is atrocious. I could buy a PS5 in a brick and mortar store, I could order any Xbox version I want, I could’ve bought and play a Switch2 on launch day. But somehow 4 years later I would have to find a sketchy online reseller if I wanted a Steam Deck. The Steam controller won’t get to me unless I’m willing to pay 4 times the original cost, and it would probably be years before I see a Steam Machine in person. Valve is right, piracy is a service problem, and I’m starting to suspect that scalping is too.
It’s a one-per-household, vetted for bots and scalpers raffle, yup. Well, more of a first-wave-shuffling and then waitlist, really.
Each global region has separate quantities and lists, and each version of the box has their raffled/shuffled lists.
What’s nice about that is, not only are they going to actively try to limit to one household, but as long as you get in before the 25th, even if you get shuffled to the very end, you’re still going to be before anybody that comes in almost 4 days later, and have a chance to be literally first. Chaotic, but I think that’s kinda fun.
Each global region that’s supported that is. I wish they’d have some way for regions outside of those list to still try. There was essentially 0 chance I was able to get a Steam Controller being outside of those lists.
For all the talk about fighting scalpers, valve’s lack of global shipping and market means that scalpers are literally the only way I can get any hardware product. The billion dollar corporation won’t ship to my country, but Randy from Jacksonville will literally ship the product right into my doorstep. I don’t defend scalpers but this is ridiculous.
Yea, the annoying thing is that this used to be fine. I was able to order the Steam Deck with my non-US account and pick it up when I happened to be in the US. Now, I can’t even do that. I have a 15 year old account and spent probably more than a couple thousand bucks by now. Surely I’ve earned it?
I want the Frame but I just know I cannot justify it regardless of what it actually ends up costing because there is no shot it’s reasonable.
I think the frame won’t be impacted as hard. Most of the costs will come from the VR components, which haven’t really gone up.
It still has 16 gigs of ddr5 ram and a 256gb SSD though. I’m not optimistic.
I’m glad they are doing a random selection of people who sign up who can order one, way better than the first come first served model that gives all the product to bots/scalpers (like the say in their reasoning).
Price seems reasonable for what you get in this current market ;(
Could’ve been worse I guess. I know they did their best considering ridiculous market conditions, but it’s a hard sell if this was meant to compete with consoles, you can still buy a normal console for roughly half the price.
In terms of being a prebuilt gaming PC, it’s not bad. Some people have said a similar spec PC is roughly $100 cheaper if you get everything yourself. Now the question is how much stock Valve actually has to sell, because I assume they won’t have that many made because of the component shortages…
I tries to make a build with pc part picker and it was around 70€ less which is pretty fair considering that valve had to engineer the tiny form factor, paid more for the custom CPU and GPU etc etc
Note yours is only 70€ less because it is missing the storage and power supply prices.
Mentioning this as it actually makes your point stronger.
Oh i didn’t notice! XD thx
But you are limited to that consoles game library and a steam machine can play any game ever purchased on steam or added to steam via keys. Plus adding games on sale saves money in the long run.
There is a significant cost savings on the games sideways for those with a large steam library. Not enough at these prices, but it would have been if it was around $800.
$100 cheaper, but can it be done in this form factor? 🤔
"Size
152 mm tall (148 mm without feet), 162.4 mm deep, 156 mm wide"
5.98" tall (5.83" without feet), 6.39" deep, 6.14" wide.
To put it in perspective, PC FANS are 120mm…
Not all PC fans
Back when the Steam Machine was first announced, I liked the idea, but wanted something cheaper (I assumed $650 - $800) so I got a $375 off-brand mini gaming PC for the living room with a Ryzen 8745HS (780M iGPU, roughly 2x SD compared to 3x for SM), 512GB SSD and 16GB of DDR.
The model I bought is not available now, but similar specs are going for close to $600, so the price is still roughly proportional. The machine I got cut every corner possible, and for example, I never could get Bluetooth to work reliably with my controllers and ended up getting $20 8bitdo dongles for each controller.
The SM, on the other hand, is a more refined hardware and OS combination where everything just works and that Valve stands behind, and where games will be tweaked and certified for that specific hardware. I am enjoying my mini PC, but I’ve put a lot of time into customizing and troubleshooting to end up with games that still stutter at 4K. For anyone who just wants to game instead of tinkering, SM is likely worth the current price.
Not bad, still cheaper than a standard pre-built which is in the 2000 range for most configurations that would be future-proof! I plan on getting one of these as I already play games on Linux, and this will allow me to convert my current PC into a purely productivity/entertainment machine. I totally need to set aside some money for this bad boy!
sigh
In this economy?
Just like the Deck (after price increase) and the Controller. Great, but absurd at that price. Not necessarily blaming Valve, but the fact remains.
That much money for essentially a small PC with a Ryzen 5 5600 and a mini RTX 3060. Who would buy that? You can just build that yourself, for less than half the price.
Cell phones are weaker, smaller, and cost more than a steam machine.
Steam machine is weaker, smaller, and costs more than a console.
Consoles are weaker, smaller, and cost more than an equivalent pc (at launch at least).
Seems the smaller the device, the weaker it is and the more it costs.
So give me a room sized PC thats nearly free and powers the world’s intelligence. Im sure it’ll run crysis.
