Hope this helps someone struggling to survive the heat
So you volunteer to fund one for me and convince my landlord and the mayor to allows its installation ?
Don’t forget you need the compressor installed outside too!
So? If you want a fireplace you need a chimney.
Everyone knows what a fireplace is.
Have you tried not being hot?
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this is it. they’re trying
Heat cannot legally enter your body without your consent.
If it’s legitimate heat, your body has ways of shutting that down.
This is why we need “yes means yes”
Man I’d love to have a spare £850 too
More like a couple or three grand
Splits are unreasonably expensive, and since there is now a compressor sitting somewhere outside and a bunch of piping, more stuff to maintain/go wrong. I remember buying my condo and seeing the split and thinking how convenient it is, but little did I realize after ten years the whole thing would need replacing. For what it cost, I could buy a new 5000 BTU unit every year and throw it out and break even after ten years.
Yeah, you can hop into your time machine and go back to the 90s when you could get an AC installed for 850quid.
that’s only half of it
Shit, really? Wow, I’m on the edge of my seat waiting to find out the rest.
The electricity bill I’m guessing.
No, it’s a split ac, the other half is literally out of the picture(hopefully out of tne house)
I see, like a heat pump.
Yes, ac is a heat pump that can only work in one direction of cooling.
Not necessarily, a lot can reverse and pump the heat inside
? It is a heat pump
Heat pumps are like heat pumps
Protip: condensers function better when its cooler. You can save money by putting the condenser in the neighboring, air-conditioned apartments.
Which is why most people cant get one of these because their landlords are shitheads.
They make portable minisplits now.
Or just portable, single unit ACs. I got one of those recently.
It blasts hot air through a duct that hopefully you’re able to direct outside while preventing outside air from getting in. Also noisy as heck, since the full unit is inside the house, and not as efficient as split units, but they do work…
Yeah those are much more common and way cheaper, but also much less efficient.
while preventing outside air from getting in
If that worked you’d slowly turn your dwelling into a vacuum chamber :-)
The same volume of air will enter your home in one way or the other, the important bit is that it’s cooler than the exhausted air. In particular you don’t want the hot exhaust to recirculate back in.
Ideally you’d get medium warm air from another room into yours, and warm outside air into an unoccupied room.
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Yeah with the current heatwave that’s to be expected. Just get one during fall or winter, and be ready for the next year.
As far as I know they are mosty designed for vertically sliding windows, uncommon in Europe. For american style sliding windows a think they are brilliant.
That’s not really a portable AC, or even a minisplit. I am talking about a portable AC with two parts (thus called a split unit), one for the outside that dumps the heat, and one on the inside blowing cool air. They are connected with flexible pipes.
Shit why didn’t I think of that
Here in the USA, south Mississippi, it’s fucking hot as hell as well!
And unfortunately, we’re borrowing my mom’s car for now, waiting for a part we ordered for the truck to come in. Mom’s car has 4 windows, but only the front passenger window goes down, and no air conditioner… 🥵
I’ve taken to bringing a cooler with us, with bare minimum of 2 bottles of frozen fresh water, plus 2 bottles of frozen saturated saltwater.
Why frozen salt water? Well it’s definitely not for drinking, that’s for sure. But frozen saltwater freezes at like -10⁰C, which makes them excellent ice packs to keep things in the cooler extra cold for around 6 hours or so…
Stay cool out there everybody!
I think the salt is actually worse for keeping thing cool longer.
Most of the cooling capacity of the ice is in phase change from solid to liquid. The salt is moving it to -10 which means bigger gap from outside temperature. So the cold escapes quicker.
If you use normal water it will climb to 0 faster, but stay there longer.
Great. You’ve got a hypothesis. Now work on it this weekend and report to the class on Monday for a practical.
You’re wrong, look up old school ways of making ice cream. Ask an old person if they remember biting into a salt crystal when having old fashioned ice cream.
Nah, one way to think about it is that by having a lower melting point, it “holds” more of the cold from the freezer.
Much colligative
so you’re making the rest of us hotter >:(
I don’t get the downvotes when you’re literally correct.
Air conditioning is literally just moving heat from one space to another even at scale the air conditioning from homes is not enough to make any meaningful difference.
Now if we want to get pedantic the stress that it puts on electrical grids that are not decarbonized and have to fire up natural gas and coal plants harder sure it is technically making everything else hotter
Dunno about your country but mine is far from 100% reneable
100% renewable, nuts. I’d actually be thrilled just to get back to 1990s levels of coal and oil-based power plants. Even that seems so far out of reach as to be a fantasy, though.
So if we ignore everything but the actual physical heat coming out of the radiator then yes, it’s really not that much, but unfortunately these units do not exist in a vacuum, and instead contribute to 3% of global emissions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island
You can always plant more trees, paint all the buildings brighter colors, live underground, or move north?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_daytime_radiative_cooling
PDRC can be contrasted with conventional compression-based cooling systems (e.g., air conditioners) that consume substantial amounts of energy, have a net heating effect (heating the outdoors more than cooling the indoors), require ready access to electric power and often employ coolants that deplete the ozone layer or have a strong greenhouse effect.
Yikes.
Heating the outdoors more than cooling the indoors
Yeah by like 400W which is peanuts compared to what the sun is doing
Also: if a big box store with high ceilings is going to cool the entire building to 68F, I’m not going to fret over cooling my modestly-sized home.
“Someone alread took a shit in the victims head so its okay if i piss on his leg no?”
A shit in the victim’s head? That’s rough.
A typical air conditioner consumes 1kW, and on top of that heats the outside by however much the inside is cooled.
and on top of that heats the outside by however much the inside is cooled.
Yeah but that heat is merely redistributed, it’s not like it’s adding to the total temperature
I’m running my air con in reverse cycle so the outside bit gets cold. Just doing my part to help offset old mates selfishness 🫡
I’ll have to get one at some point. It just seems a lot for the one week a year it’s needed.
Pretty spent this heatwave with a damp cloth wrapped around an ice pack and stuffed under my plums. Working from home is no fun when it’s 35C in your room. I even stole the cat’s cooling mat at one point (she hated it anyway) to use as a pillow.
I have a portable AC for the main part of my house and a window unit in my bedroom. Where I live in the US it is literally a necessity. People without AC can get heat stroke and die in their own homes here in the hotter parts of the summer
I installed both AC and solar panels when heat got too dangerous for my kids.
Yes, many everyday problems can be solved with money, money were literally invented for that exact purpose. Other problems can be solved with time, for example - trees need a fuckton of time to grow, but I still replaced most of the grass in my garden with trees and bushes. I will most likely never rest under their shade in my life, but is that really important to see the benefits fast?
A man has made at least a start on discovering the meaning of human life when he plants shade trees under which he knows full well he will never sit.
There’s a ton of variants of this, and saying (in a form or another) apparently goes back to 1700s.
Mark Twain, actually.
That particular quote is from D. Elton Trueblood. Mark Twain said “The best time to plant a tree was 25 years ago. The second best time is now.”. A bit different twist, but the same idea.
There’s also (alledeg) Indian proverb: “Blessed is he who plants trees under whose shade he will never sit.”. And many other variations of the same over the last 300 years or so.
Hmmm wasn’t there also chinese proverb that said “plan for a year? - rice, plan for ten years? - orchard, plan for 100 years? - education”
The new climate denial? Using wealth to insulate yourself from discomfort and change
Converting electricity into heat via silicon (ironically data centers turn electricity into heat with incredible efficiency) then moving that heat outside with HVAC units (heat exchangers again, the best way to move heat outside).
Then this sunufabich buys an ac
Alexa! Please set the room temperature to 72F… Would you like that in degrees centigrade?
Sorry, I can’t hear you! I’m making too much cooling noise!
Alexa, it’s too hot!.. I stopped cooling so I could hear you better! Totally not to send that data to Google for precessing.
Alexa… Google…
Unfortunately I bought a portable unit for my room. My reasoning, rooms gets to 38c and sleepless nights could mean sleeping through alarms, future health concerns and also, this heat won’t be going down any time soon.
Portable units are serviceable. Not nearly as good as split airco units but you can make them better by adding a second hose.
The air inlet for cooling the compressor needs to draw air in from outside instead of from the room the unit is in.
Portable units are absolute shit. For a little more you can buy a split like the OP’s picture, that is an Air source heat pump, which is 3 to 4 times more economical to run than any other heat source. Plus they can run off solar panels, if the roof is yours.
Thing is if you’re renting you don’t really have the freedom to install those units. And since AC is only really needed a few days per year it’s good enough.
I’d also much rather get the one from the OP but my options are limited.
They make my 2 fav things: air conditioners and the lancer evo final
Evo VI TME needs a word.
Source: I am old.
Oh that one can have a word with me anytime! Honestly id be happy with any Lancer
Any lancer or any evo specifically?
Because the standard lancer is pretty boring
My dream car (that i could most realistically get) is the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition 2016. I love Mitsubishi’s transmission and there’s just something about how the Lancer Evo Final looks. I love rally and ideally i’d love the Mitsubishi Lancer WRC (or anything from the Group B Rally era lol)
wow a shocking amount of people here have no idea how AC works
Let me fix that for you. A shocking number of Europeans have no idea how AC works.
The northern half, basically. Down south we very well do. What a lot of people are unaware of is that an air source split costs peanuts, and lowers your heating bills like 300-400%. Yeah not 30, 300%
300% reduction would mean you no longer pay for heating and instead get paid twice as much as you used to pay
Don’t bring maths and shit here!
What I actually meant to write was 300 % more efficient, 1/3 the cost.
But yeah, it’s bad etiquette to correct strangers, especially when you are right.
It makes the air cold. What’s there to understand?
It makes the room cold unfortunately to make the room cold you have to whack a sodding great hole in your wall. You explain that to the landlord who doesn’t care about your comfort, but they could care immensely about the wall having a hold on it.
It makes the air cold. What’s there to understand?
With that logic, leaving your refrigerator door open should cool the room. But doing so would actually heat it up.
whack a sodding great hole
Ours have a hole about 50mm in diameter. It’s not going to bring your wall down and if you decide that you don’t need the efficient heating/cooling with minisplit-unit it’s easy enough to patch. I own the house, so I didn’t need to think nothing else than the location of the hole, but any sensible landlord would see a minisplit-unit as an increase of property value.
A sensible landlord would recognise that yes but only if they got to keep the air conditioning system. Realistically though the tenant would probably want to take it with them when they left after all they bought it. And the landlord might not want the owners to be on them to buy it off the tenant when the tenant leaves.
Do y’all not have windows?
Not the type you’re thinking of. We have windows that open like doors rather than the American style guillotine things, which have always struck me as inherently unsafe, but I suppose it does have that one benefit.
What are you referring to the image? I assume it is piped out the wall to the other portion of the heat pump?
no, here as in the posters.
ac units produce co2 and require the window to be open… and such
Produce Co2_ as in the electricity used? And windows open?
It actually does require some basic knowledge of thermodynamics. Many people think “there are space heaters, so why not space coolers?” The reality is that the heat needs to be pumped out of the room (meaning hot air needs to be vented to the outside of the building).
