And so far, the first report from someone I know that has one is that it’s overheating / redlining. -Sounds like a Linux issue.
Why? Do they happen to be playing inside a sauna? An oven, perhaps? Maybe it’s not a good idea to take any electronic device in the middle of a desert during summer.
Maybe because Linux is known for poorer power and fan control. Imagine having issues before dust has even accumulated.
Is that so? Funny, the entire Internet must’ve missed that. Come, teach the whole world your infallible knowledge of Linux’s problems.
You’re making assumptions or just playing your propaganda game. You have nothing to add to the tech conversation.
is it known for that? do you mind linking some documented evidence for this claim? this is my first time hearing something like this
The issue is more common in laptops and Valve’s new hardware uses a laptop mobo.
https://www.makeuseof.com/finally-fixed-linux-laptops-constant-fan-noise-it-wasnt-hardware/
https://linuxvox.com/blog/control-fan-speed-linux/
https://www.makeuseof.com/finally-fixed-linux-laptops-constant-fan-noise-it-wasnt-hardware/
https://itsfoss.com/reduce-overheating-laptops-linux/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
Oh look it’s the guy with Linux derangement syndrome.
Typical LiGNUt that can’t defend Linux on technical merit.
I don’t have to defend anything to you of all people. But I do use both windows and linux. Win on my gaming PC (nvidia is shit and I have one game I play with friends that does not work on linux) and linux on my laptop. And the laptop has been running better and longer with the same performance compared to when it was still on windows.
My rog ally x came with windows. Steamos was a game changer for it
Say more. I need to convince my friend to do this. I just bought a Steam deck after seeing his garbage os (for a handheld at least). Love to hear more about how it’s working for ya? Especially if you have any frame of reference between it and Steam deck performance first hand.
Dude, I hope GoatSynagogue gets paid to be a kernel level anti cheat shill. They’re ALL over this comment section defending it and windows and toxic community slop multiplayer games. Maybe they work on anti-cheat software and drink the koolaid?
it was supported on the first week, what is this trash article
It was never supported, ever, it has drivers but they won’t offer you any support and before making a warranty claim they will ask you to restore steamos and see if you still have issues
yes, it has official drivers, so it has support.
Microsoft has done the same thing for years. They provide software, drivers and workarounds for unsupported scenarios while making it clear they won’t provide full support. Seems fair.
Hell, even Apple put in place the tools that Asahi needs to run on Apple Silicon.
They do literally nothing else, but the fact that Asahi can run in the first place is more than nothing.
After working with Microsoft at the enterprise level I can say with confidence they do not offer full support on anything.
It blows me away that EVERY machine I have worked on in manufacturing runs on Windows or some fuckin one-off HMI thing that has no documentation and can never be upgraded.
Unless you purchase a
slopbooksurface. Even then, good luck.
Other than the broad “Microsoft hate” people is thinking about, there are two reason I can think about; and none about Gaben being a Microsoft’s scorned ex-employer.
- conflict of interest: Microsoft’s EEE. Look it up. If they rule the OS on which majority of Steam Hardware work on, Microsoft rules on a competitors against it’s “Xbox experience”.
- Microsoft doesn’t allow open source drivers to officially run on Windows. Any hardware driver must be done, paid, by close doors at Valve and no extra help as the whole community around mesa and affiliated. There’s a reason why Valve is skipping Nvidia on basically everything.
I mean the hardware was not designed around Windows so I can understand not offering official support for it, even if you can actually get it working.
I’m fine with that, if only they would release half-life 3 already…
I can’t wait for hlf3 on steamVR
I will buy a stream frame and hl3vr and a new living room take my fucking money
Right me too. HLA was amazing on the index.
If I see someone installing windows on a steam machine, I’m losing it.
I did it for a few months to play gamepass games direct on hardware. If it’s any consultation, I used windows 10 IOT and eventually switched back to SteamOS.
It works, but windows is so clunky for actual gaming right now.
It wasn’t terrible but it was NOT good. It was useable and I got through a couple of smaller gamepass games.
I wouldn’t recommend it unless a lot has changed for windows portable gaming since 2024.
Book the product only got released a few weeks ago?
Steam deck
It’s the only way to play any of the most played and most popular games on a Steam machine.
Which “most played most popular” games would that be?
You mean Baldur’s Gate 3? Well, that one runs just fine on Linux. Also has a Linux native build.
CS:GO 2? Also a Linux native build.
DOTA 2? Runs perfectly fine.
Terraria? Linux native.
Palworld? Runs great. Even on Steam Deck.
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth? Linux native.
I’m sure you’re getting the idea. The only ones that didn’t work at all or not as good on Linux are PUBG and Marvel Rivals.
Fortnite.
Roblox.
Warzone.
Battlefield 6.
Call of Duty.
Apex Legends.
Those work well on Linux?
Almost all of these games are dogshit. As for the rest, want kernel access because you’re a shitty corporation? Fuck off. I’ll opt for security rather than bend over for a corporation to do what the fuck ever. I find it entertaining you came on Lemmy to fight this fight lol
Everyone here (99% probably) hates fucking windows. For excellent reasons. Cry about it and tout your shit games all you want, windows will still be shit.
Everyone here (99% probably) thinks communism is the best and just hasn’t been done right yet, so I really don’t care lol.
You’re actively arguing against Linux becoming a legitimate gaming OS threat to windows. As a Linux lover and windows hater. Amazing.
so I really don’t care
Pretty simple then, leave, you aren’t welcome here.
Last two sentences are deranged.
🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣
This hasn’t been true for years
Roblox, Fortnite, gta online, battlefield 6, pubg, apex, cod, warzone - these all work on Linux now?
Roblox works great in Linux. I play with my kids all the time.
Yeah in some hacky-as-shit way where you’re playing the android version. That doesn’t count. It’s like saying you can play cod because you can stream it via web browser.
I don’t fucking know, nor do I care
Very thankfully, none of them do! Are there any good games by non-shit publishers you simp for?
You’re “simping” for Valve by pretending literally the most played games in the world not playing on their OS is a good thing 🤣
“the most played” often means literally by children (not even kidding, when I played Fortnite briefly, there were several instances of 3-5 year old kids on the voice chat lol) who have never played a game with any depth. Congrats, tough crowd lol… Maybe if Fortnite and Call of Duty weren’t trash I’d feel differently, but they are. I have no loyalty to any company, if anything I have loyalty to the idea of open source software. Your worst nightmare, apparently.
More simping to justify steam machines not having the most popular games playable on them.
Gross
You mean ew
Of the top 10 best selling games of all time, 9 of them run perfectly fine on Linux and the one that doesn’t, requires you installing a rootkit, which only windows is stupid enough to allow.
so I’m not sure what your talking about?
Im all for linux but damn your comment is just incorrect and argumentative.
Youre telling me linux doesnt allow you to install programs that act as a rootkit?
Im not sure what your talking about.
Idk what specific game they are talking about, but usually, when the game runs through proton, said rootkit cannot work as intended due to containerization or whatever (sorry, my knowledge of the intricacies of Linux/proton is pretty poor) so it’s either not doing its job properly because it can’t really detect stuff like DMA, or the devs just prevent Linux users from playing to make their job easier.
They’re not the most played and most popular now.
People want to play online shooters, and those generally don’t work on Linux. Fortnite, COD, Warzone, battlefield, apex, gta, pubg, etc. None of them work on Linux.
Most of those games have the majority of their player base on console, not on PC. Obviously people still play them on PC, but, the fact that they’re “the most played” ignores the breakdown of where they are played and how big of an audience will be swayed by their exclusion.
LOL not allowing Linux is probably a much bigger issue over all given that it’s player base is PC dominated and it’s still a huge presence.
I’ve played warzone, battlefield, and apex on Linux in the past. I don’t anymore because I don’t find them fun, but they definitely worked fine. These days I mostly play Overwatch and Marvel Rivals, which are also some very popular online shooters, and they work as well on Linux. Kinda weird to be making claims like that in such absolutes.
None of them work on Linux, so no, you haven’t or at least you can’t now. No one cares if one of them worked years ago on Linux, that doesn’t make them work now.
LMAO I can promise you, they worked at one point, and I did play them. I know apex doesn’t work in Linux now because the devs purposely decided to break Linux/Proton compatibility, and I believe Warzone is the same way. Battlefield was a buggy mess and not very fun to me when I played it, so I didn’t really keep up with what happened there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was dev incompetency as well. Why blame Linux when it’s the devs of those games that are breaking compatibility, either purposely or out of incompetence?
Battlefield 6 has literally never worked on Linux. Kernel level anti-cheat has been required from day 1. COD too, has had it for years. BO7, BO6, MW3, MW2, etc - you haven’t played them on Linux.
Sounds like Valve is catering to its veterans rather than uh younger generations. Aren’t those games notorious for cheats anyway, despite kernel level anti-cheat?
Yet they’re still the most popular and most played games.
If valve wants steam machines to ever be more than a niche, they need to fix this problem - and it IS a problem.
They sold out man. Less niche please.
If rhey only make 100 consoles and sell out, does that make it not niche?
The steam deck, for all the talk of how amazing and what a massive success it is, has only sold about 5 million units in its entire lifetime. 5 million. The switch 2 sold like 4 times that in its first year.
Of the top 10 games currently on Steam, 9 of them run perfectly fine on Linux, and the tenth is Apex.
Yeah, and those top 10 numbers pale in comparison to the games I named in terms of player counts. Most of these games aren’t played through Steam.
Fortnite is the only one of those with a higher player count than CS:GO, though admittedly PUBG would slip in around the middle. The rest aren’t particularly popular games, maybe you should have named League of Legends instead.
That site is useless and made of hopes and dreams lol. It basically pretends consoles don’t exist.
Fortnite alone has over 30 million daily players. That site has it at like 1.5mil lol
That site also has counter strike go at over 250k more “right now” than steam charts say lol
Steam is far from the only place people play games, especially when the biggest and highest selling games every single year are not even on steam.
But then you would just play dota or deadlock
And apex used to run fine under proton till they decided that it shouldn’t.
gta does actually, if you and people in yout session block punkbuster
btw anyone wants to do a heist with me at 2am (in gta)
League of Legends and stuff like that, I think Velorant, these games.
Proton? (And games that don’t work with Proton are usually bad and their players wouldn’t buy an Steam Machine)
Proton doesn’t play Fortnite, CoD, Warzone, Battlefield, Apex, GTA Online, PUBG, etc.
If valve want the steam machine to be anything other than niche, they need to figure out a way to get these games working in Linux. For all the “success” of the steam deck, even the abysmal selling Xbox series sells more in a year than the steam deck has sold in its lifetime.
Crazy people are trying to drown out your comments with down votes when you are just stating facts.
The stream machine is unfortunately a failure for the price. It should have been 600ish tops for the hardware. You can get a much better system for similar or slightly more which makes it’s price to perf horrible.
Yes I know it’s because of datacenter and price fixing but it doesn’t make the steam machine a good system compared to others
You maybe could have gotten a much better system for a similar price a year or two ago but I’m not sure you could at today’s prices. Especially if you price out a small form factor one. I wouldn’t be surprised if the original price of steam machine was in the 6-700 range before the current ram/storage/gpu crisis
You can get a sff machine with a dedicated gpu and better processor though
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GLDVNNFG
One example that has a much better processor and gpu and smaller form factor too. Plus you can upgrade it so its not a giant paper weight.
Way better but limited to microcenter.
Many DIY options too
https://www.pcmag.com/news/i-configured-four-small-pcs-to-beat-the-steam-machine-at-its-own-game
Those first 2 you posted are roughly 10x the volume of the steam machine, which is one of the big draws for me
16.6" x 10.2" x 14.4" = 40 L
8.5" x 15.75" x 16.50” = 36L
vs
6.1 x 6.0 x 6.4 = 3.7 L
And even the DIY page the cheapest config they came up with is $920. I think Valve pretty much cannot sell their machine less than comparable PC, because if they did, people would just start buying them as general purpose small PCs, so they need to make at least a small profit on them, unlike the dedicated console makers who can take a loss on the machines since the only way to get software on them is through them
the only way
Look at this guy who never heard of Proton gaming
Oh when did proton let you play GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
Did I miss proton getting kernel level anti-cheat? Do you even know what proton is? The difference between proton and steamOS?
Maybe delete this comment of yours too and try again. Third times the charm maybe? The first time you misread what I said, the second time you’ve misunderstood why these games don’t work on steamOS. Maybe next time you’ll get it.
Oh when did proton let you play GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
The funny thing is that this is nearly an exhaustive list of games that don’t work.
It’s definitely not. Even if it was; you’ve probably got a combined 50 million players who will never switch to Linux if it doesn’t support them.
GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
Ironically, those are all games that I did not want to play when using windows either.
Every new game that came out in 2026 that I actually wanted to play does work on Linux with Proton.
The age of Windows is a PC gaming monopoly is definately coming to an end.
Look you can pretend that you don’t care about the most popular games in the world, but you are the minority. SteamOS will not get big until it supports them.
I will
Kernel level anti cheat is not the solution, it is the problem: https://nooneshappy.com/article/kernel-anti-cheat-is-an-overreach/
I am glad that my computer is free of that shit.
We’re sorry that youve only had experience with games that run micro transactions and brain rot. You could try better games and don’t just fall in with the 16 year olds playing cod 74. Unless you are 16…
Where did I say I play them?
Good try to gatekeep and try and feel superior though.
It’s insane how much the hardcore Linux community seems to be Linux adoption rates worst enemy. Should we want Linux to get features that will remove the single biggest reason why hundreds of millions of people will never switch to Linux for gaming? No, because we need to pretend we’re superior by only playing unpopular games.
I’m not hardcore Linux, I’m anti privacy invasive software. Privacy is already at war, why are we feeding all our data to AI bullshit?
Did I miss proton getting kernel level anti-cheat?
Let me get this straight, you want to install windows on steam machine to install malware on it? Windows users have really weird kinks.
Calling anti-cheat software “malware” shows you’re not arguing in good faith.
Posting this link here as well: https://nooneshappy.com/article/kernel-anti-cheat-is-an-overreach/
It isn’t malware by design, but too much power and corruption and even the idea someone could access it from something like this is bizarre. Why you’re defending it, I don’t know.
Look at flock cameras. The idea to find a missing child or someone in trouble instantly is great, until police start using access to stalk women and their exes.
Monroe County, Florida: Deputy Lamar Roman used an ALPR system to track and pull over a woman he met while working security on a TV set.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin: Former Officer Josue Ayala was criminally charged and resigned after he illegally tracked his ex-girlfriend and her new partner’s vehicles nearly 180 times. Another Milwaukee officer, Detective Chapman, was also criminally charged for using the Flock system to track a woman and placing a GPS device on her vehicle.
Software having kernel-level (Ring 0) access presents significant security and privacy risks, as it bypasses the operating system’s built-in memory isolation. This level of access grants applications unfettered control over the system, meaning any vulnerability can be exploited to compromise credentials, hijack hardware, or cause system-wide crashes.
Woah, careful there, you might overload their brain. Extending your thinking and following logic to its endpoint?
Nooo, most popular game fortnite me play fortnite, me need unlock skins with credit card.
Proton doesn’t support Kernel Level Anti Cheat
Proton doesn’t support malware.
Sounds like a win to me.
Unfortunately some games don’t run on Linux, my fav apex legends doesn’t. If I had the disposable income to grab one of these I’d at least be dual booting…
There were people doing that with their Steam Decks day 1
Why is this headline so awful to read?
Valve releases drivers and notes to make Windows work on Steam hardware, however, they refuse to officially support it though. They won’t offer support for “Windows on Steam Hardware,” and provide resources “as is”.
More readable version.
I absolutely hate how articles always omit the “and” from titles. Instead of “Bob and Steve run for office” they just say “Bob, Steve, run for office”.
Right, but it’s a really loaded way to say it.
They have no obligation to release Windows drivers at all.
No shit, Valve releases tools to help users that are taking a bite out of Valve’s pie, for free, and that makes Valve the bad guy.
The last thing Microsoft gave you for free was Cortana and ads in your start menu.
Cool. I don’t see why I would want to do this but its nice that they released drivers!
If you wanted to play any of the top 10-20 most played games, which are pretty much all online games that use kernel level anti-cheat.
Top 20? Lmao, i would put maybe only 3/5 games on the mids or lows of the top 20
COD, Warzone, Fortnite, Apex, PUBG, and GTA online alone are in the top 10 lol. None work on Linux.
Oh ok, 6 games, my point stands
Answer to their edit: barelly any of those can be considered top 20 PC games tbh, maybe GTA, PUBG and Battlefield
They’re all PC games, and they all have huge PC player bases. Those 6 games alone would have a 50+ million daily player count combined.
Steam is not the only store in town. The “no steam no buy” mentality has thankfully eroded a lot.
Steam is not the only store in town. The “no steam no buy” mentality has thankfully eroded a lot.
Yep i agree, let’s also hope that people consider GOG and Itch.io more :D
No thanks.
More like 40% of the top 20.
It’s not the OS they planned on working with for the Steam Deck. It’s nice they supplied drivers at all for those who chose to do so.
Who doesn’t love an upgrade?
sudo apt update && apt upgrade
Just go to Windows update. No need to be typing shit in like it’s the timestamp zero.
It’s easier to type than posting a picture of an update button, though.
Every distro, except some advanced ones, come with a graphical updater
Fuck EA
For decades, most games have been supporting Windows only and some of them MacOS, but little to none did support Linux
Now, the tables have turned!
