This means he can be replaced with another Democrat

Per the NYT

Graham Platner can be replaced as the Democratic nominee for Senate in Maine if he withdraws from the race by next Monday, and state law would then give the state Democratic Party until July 27 to name a replacement.

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    i hate gaslighting abusers from past personal experiences and i fucking hate graham platner more. he needs to go away forever; he doesn’t get to make demands of anyone because he couldn’t take no for an answer.

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      He’s dragging it out, too. Like a toddler throwing a tantrum. I hope he actually files the paperwork on Monday, but at this rate I’m not holding my breath.

      Graham Platner is planning to wait until Monday, the deadline for withdrawal, to file the paperwork to end his Senate campaign in Maine, a source familiar with his plans confirmed to Bloomberg Government on Thursday.

      Platner announced Wednesday evening that he would suspend his campaign and intends to file the paperwork to withdraw, moves that come following a sexual assault allegation that saw his support from Democrats crumble.

      Platner has until July 13 to withdraw from the race in time for Maine Democrats to nominate a replacement for the general election, according to state law. The party, which would have until July 27 to pick a replacement, already announced plans to hold a convention.

      The Secretary of State’s office confirmed to Bloomberg Government on Thursday that it had not yet received an official withdrawal notice from Platner. A candidate needs to withdraw in writing, according to the office.

      Source

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        From what I’ve heard he’s trying to force the DNC to replace him with a progressive candidate and not an institutionalized boot licker?

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    Oh darn, you mean this ex military mercenary with a covered up Nazi tattoo and a history of abusing women isn’t going to make it!?

    Even after all these people on Lemmy poured their little hearts out for him and accused anyone of being MAGA or a Neoliberal if they pointed out he was a garbage candidate.

    middle finger to Platner supporters

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          If Schumer made all the decisions somehow, we would have had Mills and not Platner. He may well apply pressure. But the decision is literally not his to make

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            It wasn’t his to make because they had a primary, but if we’ve learned anything over the last decade, if the DNC can avoid an election from the plebeians, they will, and they’ll just shove what they want down our throats and say, "its this or trump, take it or leave it "

            I should note, schumer is just the stand in name I’m using here, I’m really referring to the DNC itself.

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              The DNC has no real power to tell state parties what to do in a situation like this. In point of fact, their members are largely chosen by the state parties.

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            Don’t let facts get in the way of their narrative.

            If things don’t go precisely according to their wishes it must be the deep state sorry, DNC.

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    Why are people still posting to X?

    The crashes who owns it has been caught manipulating everything about the service, and he’s an overt Nazi.

    Elon doing the Nazi Seig Heil on national television

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      I don’t see the problem. It’s just a pirate tattoo. There’s no proof he knew what it meant when he got it. He can’t be an Nazi because he says progressive things. This is just the establishment Democrats like Chuck Schumer trying to smear him because they’re afraid of the things he’s advocating for.

      Whoops! I had two scripts printed out on my desk and got them confused. Let’s see here…

      I don’t see the problem. It’s just a Roman salute. There’s no proof he knew what it meant when he did it. He can’t be a Nazi because he supports Israel. This is just the establishment Democrats like Chuck Schumer trying to smear him because they’re afraid of the the things he’s advocating for.

      If anybody is baffled by how Republicans can watch a guy perform a sieg heil twice on live TV and be fine with it, it’s literally the exact same justifications that people are using all over this and other threads.

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        Whoops! I had two scripts printed out on my desk and got them confused.

        Woah Woah Woah. What’d I tell you about blowing cover like that?! You’re on verry thin ice buddy!

        You think this job’s bad? Hah! One more slip-up like that and I’ll swap your sorry ass with a clanker, and you’ll go to work with the team downstairs instead.

        What exactly do they do, you ask?

        Their job is to spy on monitor those suckers we tricked into buying those brand new pervert glasses! (Sounds like fun, right? Hah! LMAO)

        fr tho, we’re just making sure everything’s ok with the new product, and copping a feel for our customer satisfaction levels (lel) by maintaining an invisible presence inside beside our most valuable customers! EXCITING STUFF!!

        There’s a reason we do that kind of work in the basement: no windows to jump out of after you’ve spent 12 straight hours living vicariously through your very own randomly-selected psycho! Seeing exactly what he sees! Viddy-ing his little world in 4k with your eyes propped open, Ludovico style! God I love that movie

        Don’t worry, we have plenty of eye drops, but look, our customers are some very sick individuals!!

        (Is it bad that I find that a little exciting?)

        You think you’ve plumbed the lowest depths of the human condition?! Well lemme tell ya - by the end of the day we’ll have you trawling the human condition’s Mariana Trench! You’ll be doing verry important work, gathering super valuable (hnng) footage, err, insights. Hehe, ya. But you might wish you never had eyes to begin with! You’ll beg to forget!! (Don’t worry, we’re investing in that one next!)

        Straighten up!

        XOXO 💋

        Your Boss,

        -Mark

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        Excuse me. That is an establishment Democrat conspiracy and p-hustle ACTUALLY only had a roman salute tattoo for those twenty years of ensuring the abuse of folk at Abu Ghraib, murdering folk for blackwater, and raping women left and right.

        Hasn’t poor graham suffered enough?

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          It’s a good thing our legal system is so trustworthy and reliable, especially when it comes to rape. I’m sure the vast majority of rape cases are prosecuted and lead to convictions.

          Wait, hold on a second. What’s that? Really? Oh my God. Hold on.

          It turns out 75% of rapes never even get reported to the police, much less leading to convictions! In fact, only about 4% of rapes lead to convictions! Almost as if rape culture is an actual real thing that we live in!

          Also, just to be clear, a whole bunch of progressives withdrew their support of Platner after these allegations came out, including Bernie Sanders. You’re saying that they’re all wrong to do that, correct?

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              That has nothing to do with anything I said. Like, what the hell kind of logic are you applying here? Other politicians have gotten elected in spite of rape allegations, so we should just throw out all standards and let “our guys” rape people because their on “our side?”

              I seriously don’t understand why you people aren’t just Republicans. “It doesn’t matter that Trump’s a rapist because there are democrats in the Epstein Files too.” You’ve already cleared the “ignoring Nazi symbols” and “not caring about killing foreigners” and you’re deploying all the standard talking points they use to excuse rape and blame victims, all over this thread. What, is Trump just too rude and uncouth for you? Because it really seems like there’s already a party you can join if you just want to stick it to the establishment Democrats and are prepared to abandon every semblance of morality or principles to do it.

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                  The court that fails to convict rapists in 96% of cases? And the perpetrator should face zero social consequences if they’re not part of that 4%, no matter how credible the accusations are? Yes, you very clearly are the insane one. This shit is exactly how rape culture perpetuates and how we got to this place in the first place,

                  There’s multiple rapists on the damn Supreme Court, for christsake! That’s the authority you’re deferring judgement to, and expecting everyone else to do the same! How on earth would that possibly not make you the crazy one?

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      Sure, another spineless establishment Dem. If the necessary voters even show up after Platner shit the bed for everyone.

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        There are at least three Democrats who poll well enough to stand a chance. I do not claim any insight into who will be chosen

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          The selection will be made by 600 delegates to a convention, 500 selected by the county committees and 100 for the state committee members. It’s entirely insider chosen.

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              The RCV aspect of their primary would also be very valuable, since it sounds like there will be a lot of options and little time to coalesce.

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        Don’t give a shit. Even if Platner had stayed on the ballot, (and I lived in Maine) I would have voted for him. He has the one quality I’m most looking for. Not republican.

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            No, if I had stayed home or pissed my vote away on a useless third party THEN I’d be one of the ones who got him elected. I voted.

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                Right now, voting against MAGA is priority #1… once they’re fucking exterminated, we can concentrate our efforts on building a better party.

                So rule still applies. Vote furthest left in EVERY election, but vote in EVERY election.

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                  While I don’t disagree with the need, what you’re saying sounds an awful lot like “We need to drain the swamp and so what if he grabbed them by the pussy or some shit? You gotta do what you gotta do.”

                  And I’m just still not down with that.

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    Three things are true:

    1. He has aspects of his past that he needs to confront directly.

    2. He seemed to be sincerely evolved from majority of any demonstrated bad behaviors, most of which are unfortunately more typical from a male in the US that doesn’t grow up with privilege and ends up in the military - an organization that, by design, breaks people and then reshapes them into the same well-conforming hate machine (a hate pointed outward initially, that inevitably points more and more inward).

    3. His takedown was a very vault engineered and intentional effort by the establishment right or left or both in concert.

    4. Mitch McConnell died last Thursday after a long and ultimately successful effort to disassemble American democracy.

    Oh… Four things actually.

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      This doesn’t matter that much, but

      doesn’t grow up with privilege

      is wrong. His parents are a lawyer(serving as assitant disttrict attorney) and a upscale resturant owner, his grandfather was an architect connected to the financial world through making Windows of the World and working with Ford Foundation. He did not directly go into politics or anything, but he comes from a family with money and some connections.

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      He seemed to be sincerely evolved from majority of any demonstrated bad behaviors,

      … What? He was lying about his totenkopf a few months ago and ignoring credible rape claims as recently as a few weeks ago.

      His takedown was a very vault engineered and intentional effort

      … no shit? That is what politics is. Once you get out of the primary, there is no reason to keep The Enemy as a viable option. Of course closets are going to be searched for skeletons to fuel campaign ads.

      This is why, if you are a rapist and a nazi, you run as a republican.

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          1. You have words. Use them. Don’t just link to a random blog post
          2. He was accused of both physical and sexual assault at least a month prior. People just chose to ignore the accuser because she was the wrong party and, thus, deserved to be raped?
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              No. I did read what you said. You made a claim that

              (Platner) seemed to be sincerely evolved from majority of any demonstrated bad behaviors

              I pointed out this is demonstrably false as recent as a month ago. If you choose to believe his latest non-apology then… I have a bridge to sell you.

              platner is a rapist. platner had a nazi tattoo for 20 some odd years and a different white supremacy adjacent tattoo for however many months. platner was a guard at Abu Ghraib during the torture and sexual violence and that apparently made him want to sign up with blackwater as a merc.

              He is a fucking monster. We have known this for… pretty much the entirety of his political career (all year or so of it…). But people continue to insist on giving him the benefit of the doubt because he is a handsome white guy who said “medicare for all” once.

              And I am not fucking having that. If folk are gonna defend a rapist, I am gonna point out that they are defending a fucking rapist.


              And as for all of this “It is a smear campaign”: Of fucking course it is. That is what happens in political campaigns. That is why you try not to have skeletons like “raped multiple women” in your closet.

              And I don’t care if it is netanyahu and trump themselves coming up for air and saying it. It doesn’t change anything. platner is a rapist.

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                I hope you find the ability to show down, breathe, listen and actually talk with others eventually - case in point, I think you were so caught up that you didn’t even realize you were responding to two separate people here… Look into a condition called RSD, you might find some relief there if you always tend to feel like the rooms you are in are attacking you.

                Try to read that linked post. Best of luck.

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                  So you have no defense for trying to push “he has changed so much” as an excuse other than tone policing, ad hominem, and continuing to link to a blog post that I am increasingly certain you haven’t actually read.

                  Oh reddit.

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                All that is true.

                And with any luck he may have been willing to show the same behavior to the enemy. The left could have had their very own psychopathic killer who likely would have been very amenable to brutally crushing republican opposition In a bloody pogrom.

                Alas, we’ll just lose sanctimoniously.

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            Read the post. It speaks to exactly the position you’re performatively holding as you ignore all nuance in the actual situation and lash outward in an attempt to shut down all conversation beyond blind and complete submission to your held POV.

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        I’m just gonna link a comment I made months back:

        “The guy is clearly an idiot, maybe he means well but again that is irrelevant. This has Republican hit job written all over it from the get-go, I wouldn’t be surprised if Collins team found out about the tattoo (before he even decided to run) and directed “political technicians” to infiltrate his social circle and subtly nudge this guy to run, consequently becoming an unwitting accomplice to sabotage a genuine left-wing movement.”

        https://lemmy.zip/comment/22299643

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          God damn you’re coping way too hard. Your party sucks ass, deal with that instead of making shit up.

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              There is an irony to this comment that is competely lost on you.

              Also, for those who have trouble understanding words: I’m not using an ad hominem because I am not arguing. I am attacking you directly. You are a dumb fuck.

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          And, again: What the fuck else were they going to do?

          “Hmm. This candidate on the Other side has a fucking totenkopf on his chest. Welp, guess I’ll sit on my hands and not say anything”

          Of course The Opposition is going to run with that.

          If someone refills their water bottle at a fountain it is not some deeply elaborate misinformation campaign and conspiracy. It is literally somebody seeing a faucet and using it to get water.

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            I can excuse the tatto. I never seen it before, and it’s just a skull, not like it has a swastika. I could even also kind of excuse the claims of abuse because of his ptsd (I haven’t looked into those allegations tho). The latest allegations are pretty cut and dry tho, he should be in jail. Why did this creep even run, he knows what he did. It’s so frustrating that another candidate could have won this seat.

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              The totenkopf was literally the imagery used in the Mitchell and Webb “are we the baddies” skit. It is a VERY well known symbol of nazi germany and the SS in particular. And considering platner claimed to be a military history buff?

              Which, to be clear, means he watched The History Channel. Which was regularly referred to as “The Hitler Channel” for how much it showed nazi related content.

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                It’s a common strategy for political and media operatives to support weak primary candidates in the opposing party.

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    All of the “he’s being rat fucked by establishment Dems” folks here… you’re just demonstrating how it is that you end up with a terrible political class. You’re willing to attack your allies to defend a nazi-tattoo-having rapist, because you have a single issue on your mind.

    None of you look smart or principled.

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        Sorry… are you claiming that the CIA are the ones who put a totenkopf on his chest for 20 years? And then covered it up with celtic imagery that is ALSO associated with white supremacy?

        Because… I’mma be honest? I would totally invoke St Dril by giving them props for pulling that off.

        Everything about Platner’s past and the media frenzy was he/said-she/said.

        Actually, up until a few months ago (well, apparently much longer if you were in the women’s groups on facebook et al that warned about dangerous men), it was mostly “he said”. With the “he” being platner himself.

        Or was that also the CIA?

        Wait. Dog. IS PLATNER A ROBOT?!?!?!?!?! Is he like the mech suit from Men in Black 1 and if we flick his ear just right then we’ll see he is piloted by a tiny Christian Slater?

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      All I know is that Republican-aligned groups spent a ridiculous amount of money to get him out of the race.

      If he was a bad candidate, they would have had to do that.

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        He was and is a bad candidate because he’s a nazi-tattoo-having rapist. Defend that at the loss of your credibility and moral standing.

        The GOP spent a ton of money to protect a weak Collins, in a year they expect massive losses. They’re spending heavily everywhere. Is this your first election? Are you 18?

        Do you know how manipulated you were into liking Platner in the first place? Do you know how these working-man-speaking-truth-to-power candidates are made? They are creatures of the political consulting class, who seek out someone mediagenic who fits their profile, back him with money and tell him what to say.

        You are not fighting the establishment backing Platner. You’re just engaging with the arm of the establishment that is marketed as “anti-establishment”.

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          It’s impossible for me to back Platner - he’s out of the race. If I had a choice, I’d pick him over Collins, but I’d prefer a candidate with a more marginalized identity and substantially more experience in successful “leftist” political work.

          The Democrats spent roughly a third as much promoting Platner as the GOP spent trying to take him down (I don’t have exact numbers), so I agree that propaganda is everywhere. Perhaps the GOP is more desperate, while (as you say) the Democrats have other avenues to power, so they’re allowing this one to slip by.

          Regarding the rape allegations, I sincerely hope the victims receive justice and healing, even though I don’t expect much from the system - that’s a whole different conversation.

          My only point here is that the massive amount of propaganda aimed at demonizing political candidates gives us a very distorted view of who they really are, mostly on the side of “wow they’re so eeeevil”, so we all need to be wary of that. (Unless they’re a billionaire of course; at a certain level of power evil seems to be compulsory)

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            They’re not allowing this one to slip by: they really want the seat. But what they are doing is what the GOP never does, and that is hold their own people accountable for being criminals, even if it means losing political power. Platner, Menendez, Swalwell, (I could go on) Dems will hold even powerful members accountable for this stuff (ever since Clinton; there was a real soul searching within the party about him).

            They’re going to fight hard for this seat. They just not going to do it with Platner.