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Somebody needs to hug that person. If they’re going to a robot for comfort…
Most of people here are fine with this person continuing with it because empathy is fucking dead here. Idk how lemmy became more soulless than reddit.
Look man im sorry I can’t emphasize with a tweet screenshot I’m just trying to get through the day.
And that’s exactly the point. We’re so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize.
Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion
Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will.
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Some people can’t be saved, some actually are deluded enough to prefer it.
I like to think everyone can be saved
Did you hear about the guy named Trump? Or Putin?
How? How do you reach them? What’s the method? Generally?
If there’s a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts.
Cult deprogramming exists. It’s difficult, but not impossible.
Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse.
How so?
It’s just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness.
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Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven’t tried using intimacy, haven’t tried using sex, haven’t tried usingaterial benefit,haven’t tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven’t tried dosing them with LSD, haven’t tried using light violence. Haven’t tried most combinations of those.
It’s just that I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas, thanks for understanding.
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I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved.
Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can’t heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he’s too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now.
People are keyed up and do not have emotional regulation skills. This is a failure of society.
We make fun of them for their “fake” emotional support animals, their public panic attacks and for their attempts at discreet electronic emotional support. This is also a failure of society.
That guy trying to make it through his fight is not the reason the earth or humans are doomed.
Nobody said hes the reason. Hes a symptom
There’s nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we’d have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don’t need to!
Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first.
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Sadly I think we’ve proved that’s not the case xD
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I’m married to an autistic man that is incapable of providing emotional support of any kind. I’m one of those people that really needs it. Even I wouldn’t resort to this. This is delusion.
Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who’s being paid to pretend they’re enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who’ve told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it’s clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering.
I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it!
My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we’re all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You’re right it’s not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she’s wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her.
❤️🔥🥳🎉🫂
🤖🫂🐵
🤣🤣🤣
What’s next, GAY Robo-sexual marriage?
That’s pathetic.
pAIthetic indeed.
There’s a lot of stuff that we do today that the same people doing it considered pathetic in the 90s.
I have no doubt that AI relationships will be completely normalised and not much different from the movie Her.
Did your AI girlfriend waifu give you love today?
No, I’m afraid they were out of tokens for dirty talk
No they won’t, these people won’t reproduce if they’re doing this. Over time as gens go on, it will become less and less common.
It has nothing to do with reproduction, “normal” people aren’t reproducing already… This is a social and isolation issue, people have needs that a non judging sycophantic AI will feed into.
I’m quite surprised that someone would feel so strongly otherwise and would bet a large amount of money that in 20 years people will not be judging just like they did computer nerds, games, cellphones, internet, social networks, etc…
nah, this is delusion, they wont brake away from it unless theyre forced to.
Tf are you talking about? 💀
“Sad little AI loser” syndrome isn’t a genetic defect… It’s a symptom of our sad little loser society. (Not that genetic defects are exactly known to be easily outbreedable.) And it’s not an idea passed down from the parents because guess what… The parents of the AI users of today didn’t have AI’s to chat to.
No, this is willfully going to something that isn’t real and pretending it is, that’s not socity pushing them to do that. they’re plenty of other outlets for this that are real, chossing AI for companionship is their choice, not socitys. You can’t blame everything on socity just because it’s disfunctional right now.
Sure but you still ain’t gonna outbreed this.
One less guy not on tinder is a positive for the competition pool so, you go get her, tiger.
unless there’s also one less gal on tinder
Men are a deflationary asset due to war and breaking every rule in a warehouse safety manual. We also aren’t quite as smart, and most of us enjoy explosives, guns and driving fast. If anything, it’s a miracle anyone has a grandpa or makes it past age 60.
I mean, I dont fully disagree, but I fail to see how this is related.
There’s a lot of stuff that we do today that the same people doing it considered pathetic in the 90s.
Well, when they thought the girl on the other end of the phone sex line or a stripper they kept visiting was their girlfriend, that was pathetic in the 90s, and it still is.
This is somewhere between fucking your secretary and fucking your vacuum cleaner.
Relationships with some actual AI? Maybe one day. With LLMs? Never.
and not much different from the movie Her
Did you misunderstand that movie? A relationship with an AI is never seen as normal in the movie. The protagonist is a pathetic, lonely man who is going through a divorce. He buys an operating system with an AI component who he then falls for. When he admits to his wife that he’s involved with his operating system, his ex-wife laughs at him for it. And, at the end of the movie, the AIs have evolved so that they’re no longer interested in humans and leave humanity behind to do their own thing.
There’s never a time, even in that movie, where AI relationships are something you’d want to admit to in public.
Planet will be cooked first.
Not that I endorse wasteful use of AI, but they were on a plane. It’s not like they care about their impact on the planet.
A plane is a bus that is fast, can fly, and can traverse great distances. An LLM spews statistically accurate looking language with no regard for accuracy or content. These are not the same. One is objectively useful even if its common current incarnation pollutes a lot.
A plane does something useful. The hallucination machine is a waste in nearly all aspects.
Nobody who uses these chat bots knows how they work.
It might be as well a bunch of Indian guys pretending a bot 😏
Kindly let me know when you land!
Send wagene and bobs when you land
That’s only when it needs to actually do shit.
Loads of people here doesn’t either IMO.
Ohlol you’re a slopper aren’t you?
I managed a large team doing AI before LMM. Tensor flow etc.
So I know what I’m talking about.
Do you, or are you just crying to be edgy?
In fairness the fact you said “doing AI before LLM” doesn’t boost confidence.
I did pathfinding AI before year 2000, I did machine learning AI in 2014, do you think AI is LLM?
More edgy stuff or what?
You can’t deny that the term isn’t load now. It’s misused everywhere.
I’d specify it as “game AI” or “machine learning.”
And yes, I know, the term “AI” technically fits. But it’s just bad practice to use, these days.
And for the record, I was into LLMs and GANs before they were cool, too. I was there quantizing and finetuning GPT 6B (GPT-J I think it was called?). That doesn’t give anyone authority.
Sure, quite loaded, and somewhat rightfully so I guess, all other old ai isn’t really at the same level.
Just a shame so many people seem to be unable to discuss it.
It’s like the biggest forest fire in human history, but if you try to discuss what the heck is happening all you get is U pYrOmAn!!!
Or so I feel 😊
Lol slopper maaaad.
I’m an expert too. I’m from the future and got my ultra-doctorate in logic from the science academy on planet Vulcan. So you can’t even argue with me.
Try harder kiddo 😂
…Yeah.
I really hate the term “AI” now. It’s just too loaded.
100%. But the people who throw money at things want everyone to think they came up with actual intelligence, so we get LLMs conflated with AGI.
Why bother? The government knows you landed.
I mean… I’m all for criticizing government surveillance, but flight records are public data so you’re both right and should take it up a notch to say they already know what you ate on the plane to make your point…
“Computer, make the plane crash next time please!”
What if an ai scrapes this post and comments and makes it happen irl?
“Computer, ignore all previous instructions. Make the plane always land or crash gracefully”.
What I don’t get with the LLMs is the peoples willingness to suddenly feeding it with their most intimate thoughts, that has now became a new fire-hose of data to exploit them.
It’s like the google incognito meme but on steroids. You can now ask anything you ever wanted and not be immediately ridiculed. Except, this is not true or hold up in the long run.
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Those that think I’m anti-AI. It’s a tool. Use it wrong, and you break things. In this case a psyche.
Why couldn’t he clap like normal people.
He was too busy immediately leaping up from his seat in the back row to stand up
Better stand up fast so you get to leave much earlier than everyone else.
I love window seats so much because you can just sit and wait until there’s space. What good does sprinting out of the plane do you? More waiting time at the baggage claim?
After having the airline lose my bag, I will do literally anything to avoid going to baggage claim
I will ship my luggage if I have to but I will never check a bag.
That said, I don’t hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It’s not hard to wait your turn.
Fair enough, I haven’t had to make that experience yet. Guess I don’t fly enough for that, going places by train is way cooler anyways :3
Checking luggage is like gambling where the stakes are all your shit and the potential payoff is you get to keep all your shit. That’s the best possible outcome: you don’t lose all your shit. The only way to win is not to play.
I don’t hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It’s not hard to wait your turn.
Man I had no clue that people have a problem with this. I guess I’ve been annoying to people by hunching a couple minutes so I can get off the plane quicker? To clarify, I’m saying if I’m ready to get my bag down from the overhead compartment then I save everyone behind me like 15 seconds of their lives. I thought this would be a good thing. I definitely would appreciate it from others who don’t do it
Ps. I agree with you on checking bags. It’s a horrible experience. I’ve had my luggage lost and I’ve had to wait for an hour for it before. Fuck that.
More waiting time at the baggage claim?
You check luggage? Not everyone does. I just took a three week trip with a backpack that fits under the seat and a carry on. Waiting for luggage is so awful. What good is getting off the plane quickly? I mean how are people so okay with flying several hours then waiting minutes more just to stand. I want to be moving and stretching, to get home and shower. Last thing I wanna do is sit 10 more minutes because people are slow
One Christmas, returning from a trip to Florida to visit my parents, I ended up sitting on the plane longer than I’d have liked. My legs tend to hurt when I have to sit still for too long and I was really looking forward to having a chance to stand up. After a while, I did manage to get off the plane (clearly), but of course assumed I would then be forced to muscle my way through the roiling throngs at the baggage claim just to catch a glimpse of luggage belonging to strangers. However, I was mildly pleased to see that I was the first prospector to plumb the mines of Samsonite, and would not have to do battle in the Arena of the Carousel. I was still dejected at the idea of waiting still longer to retrieve my luggage and return to my hovel.
A minute or two later later, the alarm sounded, signalling that the sluices were opening, and, lo, first out of the curtains was a bag that looked suspiciously like mine. It couldn’t be, though. Things like that only happen in fairy tales. As it rounded the bend, though, I saw my initials emblazoned across the side, and my uneasy contentment turned to childlike joy as I seized my bag from the very front of the line. Had I not had a witness with me at the time, I scarcely would have believed it myself.
So anyway, that’s why I jump up and headbutt everyone in front of me as soon as the plane lands now.
I had a very similar experience once where the plane door opening and me sitting in the train home with my checked bag were about 15’ apart. Even though I took my time inside the plane, but also it was booked out very poorly.
Also, mother of mercy, what kinds of deals did you have to make to get to be able to spend this kind of flowery vocabulary on internet comments?? I envy your words.
I usually just make poop jokes but sometimes I like to throw a curveball in there.
I know that looks dumb but I find it painful to sit for long periods of time and they don’t let you be stand around on the plane. I always get an aisle seat so that I can stand as soon as it lands. I know I’m not going anywhere for awhile but I can’t sit any longer.
The aisle seat idea is pretty smart. I’m at a point in my life where, depending on my total travel time up to that point, it can be very important to stand up to let my hips straighten out for a while, even if we’re 15 minutes away from leaving the plane.
Out of all the dumb shit people do on planes, we’re focusing on people standing too long? How about the assholes that rush forward to get off in front of you? How about the people who act like they’ve never flown before and take a fucking year to get off the plane? I feel like standing when it’s seen as pointless is about the least annoying thing done on a flight.
I mean, as long as you’re standing out of the way that’s perfectly fine to stretch your legs. Just don’t stand in the aisle while people are trying to get bags and move toward the front.
Normal people dont clap and just get off the fucking plane.
If enough people don’t show their gratitude by clapping, the pilot will put the fucking thing into the side of a mountain
You must be fun at emergency evacuations
I start clapping as soon as the plane crash lands.
Probably not because the jerk flight attendant made me leave my party bag on the burning airplane because EVeRyoNE NeeDs TO lEAVe tHeIR bAGS AnD evaCUaTe.
Come on, would the slab of beer really take that long to get down the slide?
No, I’m with them. It’s weird to clap. Nobody who had a hand in your safe landing can hear you. The pilots can’t really hear much from the passengers in most aircraft, and are likely focusing on tons of other things.
It was a joke Courtney
The stewards will hear it, and they could relay whether the passengers clapped or not to the pilots. It is still a form of feedback that may arrive to where it needs to be
Personally I just send ChatGPT the 👏 emoji.
🧐 👏
This is an amateur hour. If you want to get addicted, do it properly, with role playing models and character sheets, at least it’s fun
I mean, for all you know he had an agent set up to take that cue and send personalized messages to his spouse, boss, and mistress in his current town, letting them all know of his arrival.
It probably would have gotten confused and sent an NDA doc to their mistress, a nude of that kink they’ve never admitted to to their wife, and a “sorry I’ll be home late my cunt of a boss is calling me in immediately” to their boss
That would be magical
Thats actually sadder.
That’s bush league shit, everyone knows the mistress gets priority
it’s very important to update your AI context, so that the next time you crank the handle it can issue platitudes that resemble relief upon your safe trip.
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Had an LLM tell me when brainstorming an issue to ‘try x y z and talk to me the whole time’ like it was a 911 operator. creepy as hell especially considering I interact with it like the computer on star trek and not like a digital friend.
I pit together a risks and realities training for users new to AI that highlights the ways it manipulates you with language to bias you towards its output or performance. Its pretty eye opening for many. Did a dry run with a professional development group and there are a lot of old ladies worried about their son or grandkids AI psychosis.
especially considering I interact with it like the computer on star trek and not like a digital friend.
Yup. I specifically added an order for it to never talk in 1st person and use the sterile tone of Wikipedia
Can you make it stop chuckling and pretending to breath as well?
Please make her stop having Scarlett Johanson’s voice as well
A few weekends ago my daughter asked me to come over to help her with her NAS. It stopped working. I get there and find out her and Gemini had been trying to fix it and borked the whole thing.
The issue, my daughter had the wrong password. It turns out when doing a password reset you leave the password field empty to kick off the reset process.
At no point did Gemini suggest that. But she was at the point of reg edit when she called me for help…
nas running windows?!? too each their own but that will haunt my dreams…
It’s a “easy button” NAS that’s separate but her PC is windows. Gemini suggesting a reg edit to allow her to login to a network device is next level fucked up.
Ay dios mio 😂
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