I thought we weren’t worried about the law. We do the thing and then wait for the courts to sort it out.
New York City should declare independence and then arrest Netanyahu
He can it would just carry consequences he isnt willing to face. I dont blame him but hes the one who made the stupid claim.
Yeah, no shit.
Obvious stunt by a populist appeasing his base.
Either that or he is really fucking dumb. I think it’s the former.
Pretty funny watching the tankie response to this as if it’s a huge betrayal and proof that reformist socialism can’t work and all candidates are liars and blah blah blah… No mayor in the world has the power to unilaterally arrest a foreign leader unless it’s a sovereign city-state like Vatican City. I wonder how they’d react to, say, the mayor of Shanghai arresting Kim Jong Un.
The whole conversation is grandstanding and purity signaling when we should be talking about actual powers held by Mamdani (and other Mayors/Governors). From high level strategies for divesting from Israel to simple subterfuge and disruption of daily fascist operations.
“Sorry Netanyahu, looks like every road to your meeting is now under construction. You’ll have to walk through the protesters”
How about we do anyway? Lot more people who hate him vs like him and it would be good pr for USA.
He should take a page out of the lawless con playbook - just do it and let the courts decide later.
Just like Donvict: slapped his name on the Kennedy Center, tore down the East wing, repainted the reflecting pool, sent ICE in to attack our cities, sent in Tulsi and the FBI to steal ballots, etc…
He ain’t got that kind of power. You need a base big enough to let you get away with it.
The right .ove would have been strategic ambiguity. Since he couldn’t do it, hold back the announcement until after the visit. Leave that little cloud of doubt hanging over the war criminal while he’s there.
Yeah, as much as it’s warranted and deserved, finding a willing contingent of NYPD cops to attempt to stop, be able to get past his US and Israeli security details, and actually take him into custody would be pretty incredible.
oh look, the forward is trying to be controversial without being controversial
What if the convoy had a broken taillight? Pull them over, oh what’s that? Calm down sir. Sir. Sir!!! Take him down! Resisting arrest! Pow pow pow.
Over in 5 seconds. Cops investigate themselves and find no policy was broken.
The end.
So you approve of police brutality?
In this particular case, it would be nice for something that’s a regular daily occurrence for regular, non war criminal folks, to happen. It’s not exactly an unbelievable script-guy is clearly brown. Obviously had it coming
This is closer to an assassination with the veneer of police brutality, which for a fascist like Netanyahu is probably a mercy compared to what he deserves.
So you approve of assassinations?
Yes. Killing when done righteously is a chore like any other, and sometimes the easiest way of dealing with someone is to just blow their brains out. Mind you I’m more than comfortable enough to admit I am biased as fuck, like yes it’d suck if say Mamdani was killed but at the same time imagine if someone set off a car bomb and vaporized a couple Congress critters during the RNC.
What reprisals do you think would result from that?
The people executing those reprisals would feel just a “righteous” as you feel about killing them.
Violence has never resulted in people being better off.
It resulted in my ancestors being better off, what with the fact that quite a few of them being random murderous bandits shedding saxon blood in retribution before the war for Scottish independence kicked off properly. Or how about my murderous kin here in the US that solved their problems by making their problems corpses and then dumping them in the Mojave, which we were doing up until the 50s, or maybe should bring up the good Friday agreement. Killing for the sake of it isnt the point, the point is to collapse moral, organizational integrity, or just kill enough people that retaliation is impossible.
Regardless I am entirely retributionary in my want for violence, I don’t start proposing to kill preachers until they propose killing queers, I don’t propose killing businessmen until they start to deny pay, I don’t start to propose killing politicians until they start to take the food from the mouths of children, et cetera et cetera. Even fucking then I would still rather deal with it through political and l legalistic means, but when civility fails savagery must be embraced.
Also don’t bring up moral relativism, I don’t particularly care.
It resulted in my ancestors being better off, what with the fact that quite a few of them being random murderous bandits shedding saxon blood in retribution before the war for Scottish independence kicked off properly.
Did it really go well? A lot of people died and Scotland wound up not being independent. Scotland may someday be independent, but it will happen through voting peacefully, not through violence.
Or how about my murderous kin here in the US that solved their problems by making their problems corpses and then dumping them in the Mojave, which we were doing up until the 50s
Don’t even know what you’re referring to here. Are you saying things worked out great fro indigenous people in the US?
or maybe should bring up the good Friday agreement.
Maybe we should. Eventually the majority of the population of Northern Ireland will be Catholic, because Catholics tend to have more children. Since Catholics tend to want to leave the UK and become a part of the Republic of Ireland, it’s inevitable that will happen. Tony Blair sat everyone down and explained that to everyone and the Troubles came to an end. This was always going to happen regardless of whether or not there was violence. Northern Ireland will become part of the Republic of Ireland because people will someday vote for that. So once again violence accomplished nothing.
You’re American so you’ve been taught in school that freedom comes from violence. The reality is violence just leads to more violence. The American revolution was about slave masters talking a big game about freedom and equality, but those words were obviously bullshit because they were slave masters. Really it was about some wealthy assholes not wanting to pay taxes and wanting to expand westward to massacre indigenous people and take their land.
You seek retribution against others, then they seek retribution against you, and it’s a cycle that doesn’t end until people can sit down and negotiate. What makes this malignant is when powerful people can become entrenched and propagandize people into thinking violence will accomplish something. Then it becomes systemic as it has with Iran. They can’t make peace with the US and Israel because that would make them appear weak to their propagandized base. Trump is the same. So get used to seeing Iranians getting bombed and occasionally some American soldiers getting killed. Each side vowing retribution against the other for the retribution they did.
Your moral relativism places your feelings over people’s lives. They killed the Ayatollah, did that settle everything in Iran? Do you think killing Netanyahu or Trump or whoever you’re upset about will actually change anything? It will likely get more people killed. Another school in Iran might accidentally get bombed. But I guess you don’t care about collateral damage, just like Trump doesn’t care. You’re the same kind of person they are.
Yes, unefuckingquivocally. Hands fucking down. Some fuckbag in power makes orders that cause dozens, hundreds, thousands, more, of the deaths of small people who don’t make the news?
YES. THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE SHOULD BE KILLED. Every single fucking one of them. Root and fucking branch.
This “root and branch” approach this is exactly what Israel is doing. Leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran have been killed. The people below them have been killed. The level below them, also killed.
So you agree with the strategy Israel is using, you just don’t like that they are better at it than their enemies.
What are you, a writer for the Punisher comic?
… maybe he is the John Punisher himself …
John “The Punisher” Punisher
John ‘TP is my middle name’ Punisher
His motorcade was coming right for us!!! Is that weed I smell coming from the vehicle?
Do it anyway, the law doesn’t matter in the US anymore.
The law of the jungle always sticks around.
NYPD who probably hate Mamdani on average
vs
actual Mossad psychopaths who will do just about anything to prevent Israeli accountability
It’s a nonstarter.
Yeah, there’s a non-zero chance the NYPD just goes rogue if ordered to do something they don’t want to do, especially if there’s an out of it potentially being illegal.
That’s not too say the mayor should just let them dictate what their job is, but it has to be factored in when trying to do something on shaky ground.
I’m confused how many people seem to believe the NYPD will do whatever Mamdani says here with no question.
Do they know anything at all about the NYPD?
What if Mamdani performed the arrest personally?
Then the Mossad’s going to assassinate their first US politician out in the open immediately.
I do think it’s important to try to bring them to heel, but that’s going to have to be done in ways where defying him is seen as perverting the good order of democratic society rather than anything where they can claim to be the principled actor. Then start firing anyone who refuses.
At best, it would take years to even start accomplishing that. He has to build up enough political capital to outweigh decades of copaganda.
I think it’s a general misconception ingrained from the propaganda that we live in a laws based society.
