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It’s only normalized if you buy it.
I’m over here refusing to pay $7 for a Sonic burger, so I only order when I can get them half price in the app.
And I stupidly still love Dave’s single from Wendy’s.
Nothing quite like getting the “free thing w/ $5 purchase” and buying only a Dave’s single.
A burger and fries for $7 ain’t bad. But unfortunately the quality of Wendy’s has been plummeting.
Before the hyper inflation you could use your points on delivery, now you can’t. With most fast food places you can’t. It’s all a 90% markup now and it’s never ever in a hundred gazillion years be worth it to order out ever again. It’s just crazy how it was semi-worth it at one point for like 2years and then everything got fucking stupid expensive and people are paying twice as much for everything they order food-wise because it includes grocery delivery that’s now at a 90% markup on delivery services.
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I thought I would be nice and went to grab some breakfast jacks and hash browns at Jack in the crack a couple weeks ago. $55 for six of each. I apologized and backed out of the drive through. Fuck that, it’s ham egg and cheese on a burger bun, and shredded potato.
These restaurants doing everything they can to chase away customers.
Ah, yes, I’ll have the quarter hundred biller.
Hamburgers are supposed to be 25$ (well, money is made up and a price is only relative but you get what I mean). Beef is expensive as fuck to grow. Between time, land, water, food, raising a cow is an endeavor, it might be one of the hardest food sources to grow that we have, and that’s even with raising them locked in a cell their whole life, which we should try not to do.
I think the 25$ hamburger is a good thing, it reflects the real cost of beef. The only reason it’s been low is because we subsidize the cattle industry immensely, and we used to do it more. It’s also because demand has gone down and supply has followed, the more people eat vegetarian the more a hamburger will be priced like the luxury it should be.
And to be fair, I know that our crops of cattle feed were ruined by the tariffs and the straight closing, I would bet the increased cost is preempting the expected downfall of these crops in the coming years.
You’re right about the real cost, but this isn’t normalization of cost - beef production is still as high as ever and is still being subsidized with tax dollars, and the difference in price is being pocketed by meat companies while taxpayers eat the production cost. It’s the tariff refund problem again.
This situation is the worst of all possible worlds.
“4 for $100” is a wild sentence for anything not steak, much less smashburgers (fries are a separate order) made by hipster dickheads with tribal tats and 1800s mustaches
Well obviously enough people are buying burgers at those prices, otherwise restsurants wouldn’t be able to charge those prices.
It’s kinda like with lootboxes, feels like everyone hates them, but they must get purchased a lot, otherwise they wouldn’t be so ubiquitous.
Kinda makes me wonder how many people are really affected by the cost of living crisis, or do people simply buy things no matter the pricetag and that NOT purchasing something is simply NOT something that crosses their minds?
I don’t why everyone hasn’t stopped eating out and just cook at home these days
$25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers
$25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers
No it cannot. 10 would be a large stretch, let alone 20.
Let’s see… quarter pound patties are a little on the big end so assume 3oz patties, that’s 3.75 lbs of beef which is also about what 80/20 costs per pound on sale here. So a little over 14$ for the beef, buns are a buck fifty or so for an eight pack, you need three to make twenty burgers so that’s about 4.50$ more. Now you gotta put lettuce tomato pickle and onion on your twenty burgers that’s about a quarter head of lettuce, so a buck there, two or three cheap slicer tomatoes there’s two dollars, honestly fifty cents worth of pickles if you put four on each one and probably one onion is overkill so let’s round up to a whole dollar there.
Tbh excluding the condiments a dollar twenty five or so for a burger made at home is about right. If you wanted to go overboard the probably 1/8 jar of mayo and 1/4 squirt bottle of mustard is a buck or two. Now you’re a few bucks over but it’s an all the way burger not some knuckleheads “whatever I had in the fridge” concoction.
I used the sale price of ground beef because it’s the most expensive thing and if you’re cooking at home the most expensive component of a meal being on sale is what prompts you to make it.
Hmm, so my current sale price on that beef is $16.83 and as the other person pointed out a 3 oz before-grilling burger is well below what anyone would be satisfied with. So at most I’m making 15 burgers with that and that’s not including tax. If you’re going back to 2007 for those $1.50 buns can you buy me a truck load or two while you’re at it? Even the store brand here on sale are $1.79 and again that’s not including tax. Bringing our pre-tax total to $22.20… shall I continue? Everyone I know who eats burgers prefers cheese on them so that a few more dollars on top of the other toppings/condiments too.
Either you live somewhere even cheaper than the small town I’m from, significantly, and also do not pay sales tax, or from where I’m sitting there is not way in hell you’re making 20 burgers with $25. That’s not even if you skimp on the meat, get everything on sale, and provide barely any toppings. To be honest with you, the last time that ratio seems possible was like 10-15 years ago.
I like my burgers that size. With the meat hand mixed, salted and peppered etc it adds a lot of flavor to the rest of the thing without being overwhelming. Double or triple will get you more meat without sacrificing crust or cook time. That is of course, more burgers on your sandwitch.
I thought a buck fifty was high for buns, but not everyone has a bakery thrift so I went by Walmart’s generic price for gv brand buns. You should not sleep on the Walmart bakery if there is one near you, they have ~$1 unsliced loaves.
Adjusting for tax is easy. Just multiply by your grocery tax rate like *1.08 or whatever.
The person said hamburgers and if you order a hamburger you don’t get cheese. At this volume though it almost makes sense to put the kraft singles back on the shelf and use half slices of velveeta. Much cheaper and tbh on a generic burger perfectly tasty and very photogenic.
All the way is not “barely any toppings”. Pickles, lettuce, tomato, onion, mayo and mustard is a good burger!
I got half a mind to cook burgers tonight and double check my math but my wife would be pissed. 😡 Why are there two dozen fully assembled cheeseburgers on a half sheet in the fridge! 🤷 To test my abilities, also we need to buy more velveeta to make broccoli cheese soup so girls night is cancelled.
We have differing opinions here obviously. I try to avoid wal-mart as much as I can for several reasons, and that might be key to your ability to make 20 burgers for $25. I mean, granting you everything you’re claiming I am still doubting it. For me, even if I went price shopping, and forced myself to be okay with smaller burgers, I’d still be extremely hard pressed to do that, I honestly don’t think it would be possible here. Where I live the cost of living is higher than average, but also when I compare grocery prices to small rural towns, they typically aren’t too different.
Anyhow, this whole discussion started around how burgers are supposedly $25 now at restaurants. Which isn’t true at all. And also the higher priced burgers people are complaining about here will never be just “Pickles, lettuce, tomato, onion, mayo and mustard”. They likely will have blue cheese, bacon, avocado, and other higher priced ingredients on them. They likely will be larger than a quarter pound. Not really comparable to the burgers you are describing. You can dismiss that if you like, but personally I love burgers, just not the way you describe them. I don’t like raw onions, mustard, mayo, or really even lettuce typically, on my burger. I guess I have expensive tastes when it comes to burgers or something, because I didn’t even think I liked them until I was like 15 and I found that they can be made with many different toppings that I do like.
I’m not dismissing what you like. I just used a very common definition of burger for the question of “how many burgers can you make for $25.”
The food has changed a lot in the last few decades. The McDonald’s quarter pounder used to be advertised as a big burger. That’s just four ounces!
Restaurants may not actually sell you a $25 burger, but the $15 burger is made possible because you get a minuscule amount of the expensive ingredient and they can turn the leftover avocado or bleu into guac or Cesar salad and sell that to you as well.
I can’t recommend moving to multiple smaller patties as opposed to one big one enough though. You get more flavor that way, they cook faster and there’s a very convenient place to put more cheese.
I didn’t mean you were dismissing my tastes really, just that ingredient differences would be relevant to this discussion. These kinds of threads tend to drift in focus due to UI issues (hard to view the whole thread without getting distracted) and the passage of time, but what I’m getting at is still just that 1) the original comment touting 20 burgers for $25 is between very difficult and impossible from all I know, and 2) even if it were possible, they would be quite different from even most $10, let alone $25 burgers.
Again, our grocery stores here are pretty close to national standard prices but our restaurants are on the expensive end. Despite those facts, I would struggle myself to make even 15 burgers for $25, and at the same time, I have no trouble finding a higher quality (restaurant) burger than those for $10-15. So from my end it feels like there’s a lot of exaggeration going on about the restaurant prices when it comes to burgers. We don’t need exaggerations to fully agree: food is very expensive now, of course. I easily remember the McDonald’s dollar menu. Doesn’t even feel that long ago. I’m pretty sure my $3 meal from that era would easily cost $13 at this point, even from McDonald’s. Which is a frightening rate of increase (over 4x in ~20 yrs).
The burgers on a real plate and all are 1/4 lbs. Not 3 oz. They are 3oz after cooking though. And the thing is, you can’t buy a quarter head of lettuce. So bump all those partials up to full units you can buy. Cause many will have the unused part thrown away. Then don’t forget the cost to cook it. Propane, or charcoal, or whatever. And you need something to clean all the dishes and utensiles… we can call the cost of the dishes and utensiles a wash though, just about everyone uses those all the time. But the grill… toss about $5 toward it. The cheap ones don’t last long, and you need a flipper and such. Now the big thing you are skipping is the time. Time to go to the store, time to prep. Time to cook, and the worst one usually… time to make a meal plan that includes this before hand, rather than just going out to eat when you haven’t planned. And in some families… one or more persons won’t eat the damn burger, so you have to make something else they will eat…
Don’t forget that you gotta pay the mortgage and bills to have a roof over your head and the lights on too. You don’t wanna be eating your burgers outside in the dark.
Also true. So safe to say, you cannot get everything you need to make 20 burgers for $25.
Oh yeah, better factor in you parents entire lifetime earnings because without them you wouldn’t be able to be there eating that burger!
The hell it can with these hamburger meat prices.
I know, right? 1lb of hamburger is around $8 for me. I buy ground turkey instead. It’s generally leaner and I get it for $10 for 3lbs. It doesn’t taste exactly the same, but I like it and it’s way cheaper.
When we can, we like to do a mix of ground turkey and beef, cause the turkey taste is a bit different. The mix we have found great for things like chili, spaghetti, loose meat (mamwich) etc… Gives some beefy flavor and saves a little money.
You can also use a beef broth or bullion cube and it’ll basically infuse the turkey with the beef flavor.
Some people were never taught how to cook. Some people have messy room mates leaving the kitchen nearly unusable. Some people work unexpected overtime and have their shift run longer and into another meal time. Some people struggle to find the time to cook and clean up for themselves.
The only way I manage to eat decent throughout the weekdays is by doing lunch and dinner prep during my sundays. Its takes a lot of planning sometimes to ensure i have enough ingredients and i often don’t get to recreate as much as id like on my weekends.
With the all of human knowledge at your fingertips tips there’s never been a better time to start cooking. And taking time to learn to cook is investing in yourself
It is, but someone working 60 hours a week often just wants to do something easy and learning new skills takes effort. I myself have been learning to cook more but its still a big time commitment and i try to plan around it to reduce spur of the moment trips to the grocery store to save on my expenses, instead trying to shop when I’m already in the area for other things as well. I also try to shop sales and expiring soon reductions which further reduces my options of cooking for a given week. Its a big balancing act of time, energy, and budget, and as the stomach starts growling people throw the budget portion out the window to save on time and energy by buying fast food.
but someone working 60 hours a week often just wants to do something easy and learning new skills takes effort.
It takes almost no effort to use a crock pot, and it’s really hard to fuck up if you follow directions. When I was working 2 jobs, I’d regularly throw something in the crockpot in the morning, and come home to an amazing smelling home and a meal that was basically done.
People who say they can’t cook aren’t trying, there are so many easy ways to make cooking so simple that even my sister in law can do it unattended.
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Because my family lives at home and they’re all reactionary shitwads
Ok but by the time instacart delivers my groceries to me I could have just gone out for the same cost so I just have Uber Eats go out for me so I can pay an additional premium for my premium food and still have do the cleanup myself wait what?
Ok but by the time instacart delivers my groceries to me I could have just gone out for the same cost
Did you know…
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You can go to the grocery store yourself, pick things out yourself, and take them home yourself? It’s cheaper, too!
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You can buy more than 1 meal’s worth of food at a time and then store food at home for later – you actually don’t have to make a special order for every single meal!
Now you’re just being silly…
(…but based on the downvotes I guess my sarcasm was not laid on thick enough)
I thought it was funny.
It was too realistic. I’ve met people who do exactly what you described. Depression can be one hell of a ride for some people.
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Life involves effort. Crazy, I know.
Goddamn a decade ago we’d go out to a bar that had burger night and the deal was a draft pint, and a burger with fries for $8, and those were legit burgers.
Climate change made beef more expensive.
That’s coming because of screw worms.
Climate change affecting food is 5-10years away.
I can make 4 fancy ass burgers at home for the same price. $12 for 4 premade patties from the butcher, $6 for 4 fancy ass buns, another $6 for some organic veggies and let’s say $1 worth of fancy ketchup. Wanna add fries? A russet potato is less than a dollar, slice it up and make oven fries.
I could obviously cut back on some of the ingredient’s quality and get the price way down, but I dont make burgers that often so I’m gonna make them good.
Most restaurant are packed. Not enough people care
I feel like I saw this tweet but the number was like $12 burger. Which for me is now the standard.
Also smash burgers. Why are people paying actual hamburger prices for what seem to be burnt scraps from other people’s burgers?
You know different people have different tastes in food, right?
I mean, that’s not what a smash burger is at all. They are actually tasty.
So it’s just a regular burger with inflationary pressure applied directly to the beef patty?
You’re right. They deserve to pay 50% more per ounce of beef for defying me.
I remember when a pint (an actual imperial pint) of premium domestic was six bucks. It rolls for around ten now.
What does this person think cost of living is?
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a direct affront to the Christian religion
They’re a subsidiary of Kellanova, owned by Mars. Not exactly the small indie lefty company I was expecting. There also is no real MorningStar farms, or family, or group behind them.
They’re about as anti-christian as your average desk chair and about as offensive.
It’s about the name, not the actual company.
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Oh!
haha?
Super cheap? $9.20 for 16 oz from what I’m seeing in my area. Hardly cheap, much less super cheap.
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Less than 2.5 oz those seem like sliders. Though I wonder maybe they don’t lose as much of their weight during cooking.
And they’ll still charge you $15
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It makes you sound ignorant when you claim a common/boring but decent frozen veggie burger available at nearly any grocery store for like $5-7 is some kind of expensive bougie bullshit. Because it’s not.
When you compare that 5-7 dollar pack of frozen veg burgers to a pound of ground chuck or an entire ready to eat rotisserie chicken for the same price it’s really expensive.
Oh…you’re serious. Ground chuck is like $4.50 a pound so no, that’s not expensive. But sure let’s bitch about 50 cents like it’s a huge difference and then continue to eat meat which in general is far more expensive than eating vegetarian.
They’re like 4 for 5 dollars.
