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I love the artwork in Pepper and Carrot. I’ve got the books downloaded to my comic reader and am looking forward to getting to read them.
And it’s not just laymen who miss label art as ai art. I’ve seen artist attacking other artists and claim that other artist uses AI. And they came with “receipts” in the comments. Even when others pointed out the history of the other artist the attacker doubled down.
I feel bad for David. I initially thought his stuff was AI, too. But then after going to his website and seeing the decades of work he’s been producing, it’s nothing short of amazing art.
It’s not really a surprise that AI mimics his work, it’s all been creative commons from the beginning, so it was likely one of the first things to be thrown into the slop machine.
I always felt his style doesn’t quite fit the anime faces.
But almost all anime looks like the Potato Jesus on some level to me, so maybe it’s just me.
yeah I remembering thinking the first comic of his I saw was Ai as well, but it also took very little effort to realize it wasn’t. the people acusing him are willfully ignorant at this point and while it’s great to see Ai skeptics, it’s not so great to harm the actual real artists out there
My hot take. Apologies, but:
Why do people think they’re walking AI detectors, soley based on the art itself?
I find it pretentious.
To be clear, the who, where, and how a piece is published is important context. One should be suspicious of suspicious artists.
But not the what.
Don’t even look at the piece. Extreme cases aside, no one can definitively tell if art is AI generated just by looking at it.
People are getting a little too paranoid if you ask me, and it’s always tempting for people to jump on the bandwagon in order to make themselves feel cool or aloof or in-the-know or whatever else. I don’t hang around anywhere except Lemmy so I have no idea if it’s as bad as it is here, but it seems like any time basically any picture of any stripe gets posted there are always one or two dinguses who reflexively parrot “it’s AI!!!” and claim they can magically tell, even though it demonstrably isn’t. For extra hilarity, this occasionally includes people howling about how literal decades old image macros that were circulating in the first couple of years of the century are “obviously” AI because apparently it’s their first friggin’ time using the internet or something.
For the record, I vehemently loathe AI slop and the current crop of generative “AI” products in general, I don’t use any of them, and I never will. But people really can get carried away over this, too.
Eh. I can live with internet paranoia.
But I’m disproportionally annoyed by posters who think they’re experts at something when they’re not. Especially so angrily/loudly, like the scenarios you point out.
It’s especially ironic in this case, as the “false confidence” AI gives is what the accusers are against, isn’t it?
This is by David Revoy, who has started getting wrongly accused of using AI for his art
I honestly don’t even think it looks ai, to me, and I may be wrong but it looks like someone painted it on a canvas
Chiseled Etruscan stonework, that’s what it is.
Funnily enough, the image “painted” actually reminded me of some older art done by Matt Page… specifically:
https://www.deviantart.com/fallout161/art/R-E-B-I-R-T-H-37772948
A bit old but it immediately reminded me of it.
That and all proper English writing gets you accused of using ChatGPT, because ChatGPT was trained on proper English writing.
i use hyphens and “m-dashes” all the time, now it’s associated with bot speak 😂 my high school English teacher warned us about an illiterate society
My favourite example:
The en-dash – used for interjections, among other things – has been a staple of prose for a long time. Equally, it has been used in corporate communications attempting to sound formal and educated – often wrong, to the point that I myself amn’t sure any more whether I’m using it right at any given moment, or how it is different to the em-dash — even longer, yet less popular because MS Office doesn’t automatically replace a - between words with it.
Is it any wonder, then, that machines trained both on prose and corporate slop produce a soup of words interspersed with en-dashes – whether they make sense or not?
So when I use it, because I got used to it before the machines appropriated it, and people take it as indicator that my slop is artificial, I always get a little sad. I’m not concerned about AI taking my job, but I do worry that it may be taking my hobby:
Writing long, rambling comments of questionable quality on social media.
Not only that but also long explanations.
I am a part of a couple of self hosting subreddits and I like to explain why things are the way they are because I feel that it is valuable to share that knowledge, even if the person doesn’t care about the details initially.
I like to share my knowledge about things that I have used over multiple years, and I also don’t like to simple give you the solution because, most of the time, important information will be lost by just saying “do it like this”.
But over the last year I had a couple of people mention the typical “ignore all previous instructions” and lately it is just downvotes. No explanation.
People can’t detect AI so they see AI in everything.
Not only that but also long explanations.
The infuriating thing is, this complaint isn’t even new. People just have a trendy and new justification to latch onto, but it’s the same as it ever was. Many, possibly even most, of the people going so far as to take time out of their day to screech “TL;DR!” at you are really just admitting that their attention span has been so utterly fried by long term exposure to algorithm-driven corporate social media that they’re no longer capable of picking up whatever it is you’re laying down. That, and also tacitly revealing that because they personally can’t keep from fidgeting long enough to churn out two full paragraphs, that must mean no one else can, either.
I’ve been dropping doorstoppers on people since the days of dial-up. Back then the refrain was slightly different, but the complaint was still the same. By now my body of work, for lack of a better word, is clearly established. Hell, I cranked out so many words on the internet back in the day that Epinions sent me a hat in the mail completely unprompted for being a loquacious enough bastard to reach their list of top 100 contributors. Hands up everyone here who has actually worn out a keyboard? I suspect there are not many of us left.
At this stage in my life I take the opinion that anyone who can’t handle the volume of my writing is free to attempt an airborne indignity on an ambulatory baked confectionery product. I don’t have to show my homework to anyone.
Dunning-kruger in action.
And the blog format.
I sometimes send emails with typos/grammar errors because I was sick of people saying this.
Like you know what? Fuck you. I’m turning my “affects” into “effects” and deleting a vowel.
I understand your logic but I hate it (and am trying not to hate you).
RESIST
Try it. It’s pretty affective.
No.
It does rather make one suspect that a number of people haven’t read a great deal of properly-written English.
It’s also a snowball effect where they compete to escape the accusation of using ChatGPT or being “unc” or “boomer,” self-policing to ensure everyone writes like garbage.
I was once told “I write like someone who thinks they are good at writing.” That was met with rounds of applause by the people who can’t (or won’t) spell, capitalize, or punctuate anything.
To their credit, communication is a two-way street. If I’m writing such that nobody understands what I’m saying but me, it’s not “good writing.” But it does feel like we’re nose-diving towards Idiocracy and I’m not happy about it.
I was once told “I write like someone who thinks they are good at writing.” That was met with rounds of applause by the people who can’t (or won’t) spell, capitalize, or punctuate anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome
Tall poppy syndrome is a term that originated in Australia and New Zealand in the 1980s that refers to people with notable public success or achievements that are ostracised by others as a form of egalitarianism.[1][2] Intense scrutiny and criticism of such a person is termed as “cutting down the tall poppy”.[3]
“That one sounds uppity!”
To anyone who finds it necessary to “call out” stuff for being either fake or AI generated when there are no stakes, why are you like that? When you’re wrong, you’re at least as big of an asshole as anyone actually putting out AI generated art as if they made it. Probably more of an asshole because you’re specifically targeting an artist’s work while those posting AI art as if they made it aren’t trying to bring anyone down like you are.
Generating slop should be socially shunned, that’s the only way we survive this onslaught. Defending slopgen should be shunned as well.
I’m not trying to be dramatic or anything, but we’re in an existential battle for the survival of the concept of beauty here.Okay, but you shouldn’t accuse an image of being AI generated just because of vibes. Investigate first, find proof or at least strong evidence.
Alternatively, you shouldn’t share images that need to be thoroughly investigated to determine that they aren’t generated. Or maybe it’s somewhere in the middle.
It sucks, I don’t disagree with that.Blaming the victim, I see.
We’re all victims and perpetrators unless we can maintain the disincentive of a general expectation of shunning for the use of generative algorithms to create media for wider audiences
That doesn’t mean that verifying something was made by humans will remain a trivial endeavor, but it is my opinion that human made media has some purpose behind its creation that at least seemed worthwhile enough to have remained in existence somewhere in someone’s mind long enough for them to have followed through on creating each piece and the entirety of a particular piece. Not as much on a whim or as an artifact of some less meaningful/tangible/palpable process of experimentation to game certain feedback mechanisms or to maximize some undisclosed score
Oh no, what a terrible victimhood, being criticised for your ass picture you post, the horror
Do you even notice how now you’re the one saying people shouldn’t post their real art if it “needs to be thoroughly investigated”, whatever that means? AI mimics other styles, and it’s just going to keep getting better at it unless something actually stops it, which I don’t see happening without civilization itself collapsing because Pandora’s box is already open.
Not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if your art is so generic it’s indistinguishable from slop, maybe evolve your style a bit. In order for a slop to resemble your art, your art needs to be in a significant portion of the training data. In other words, generic.
This isn’t me being snobish snob (well…), every art has a purpose, I will defend your right to do whatever muzak you do and whatever alegria posters you make if it’s your way of expressing yourself. However, don’t be then surprised when in the same breath I’ll call your alegria poster boring corposhit. Or, keeping with times, slop from a butt.
Not disagreeing with the fact that it sucks major ass, I’m of the opinion that the only ethical behaviour there is to throw molotov cocktails at datacenters until there is none left, but that’s besides the point.
It’s constant in game development. Every single indie game that comes out, there’s somebody screaming about AI.
Indie devs have become so paranoid that they have to document to show that it’s not AI. And that person yelling actually wasn’t even interested in the game. They just wanted to punch down.
Indie devs have become so paranoid that they have to document to show that it’s not AI
That’s, like, the whole point of it, isn’t it? It’s sucks that this is now necessary, but overall it’s not that hard, comparatively.
There is an indie game that I like, the developer made a trailer for the second one, and it was very off, the voices were shit, some of the images were weird. There was a big backlash on his subreddit, people have found his posts where he excitedly praised slopgen imagegenerators. People were angry, so he redid the trailer, removed shitty parts, and publicly commited to not use slop in the game. The game is now better for it.
That’s how public accountability works, and that’s how it’s supposed to work.but overall it’s not that hard, comparatively.
Oh really? So how do you prove no AI has been used? In the case you describe, there was at least some evidence that AI was used in form of the author’s posts, but I regularly see people accusing things as AI generated based on vibes (see e.g. the comic author from the OOP. Publishing Krita time lapses and source files seems not to be enough evidence for some people)
Social backlash is the best way to discourage use and promote education.
Being wrong is bound to happen, but the burden of proof is on those presenting their work. Just because its annoying doesnt mean its not effective or necessary
This looks like AI.
Nah just autism. Feel free to check my other posts 🤷
…which is now maybe making me realize the flaw in my previous statement. Still think pointing out potential AI usage is useful, sometimes, probably, though.
Upvote for this and Im glad you recognize the issue!
Calling anything AI makes the accused required to defend themselves and that itself is kinda bullshit, you know?
Agrees to the first sentiment, BS on the second. Don’t accuse people of things unless you can prove it. Or at least provide more than your gut feeling because “you can tell from the pixels”.
Ai was created from human content, there is by definition someone whos art perfectly looks like AI.
I do agree its incredibly annoying, but as long as ai products are generated, those who disagree with it will point it out for others. Its the can of worms opened by the tech. I often get accused of writing like an AI, but they forget that im just autistic and love em dashes, semicolons, and comparisons.
Which puts even more of a burden on artists. This is the big irony of the whole movement to oppose AI and support artists is that, at least for this strain of it, more burden is placed on the artists to prove that they aren’t just using AI than on the AI ones themselves. They just generate whatever images and post them or use them. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s already generators that can generate wireframes or whatever “intermediate” step can serve as “proof” it wasn’t generated by AI. I can’t think of a single piece of evidence that couldn’t theoretically also be generated. Models today might require generating 1000 images and diacarding 950 of them but the ones who don’t care about how artists are affected probably also don’t care about how much energy it takes. But even if today’s models can’t do that, I believe others will be able to sometime soon.
The people putting out AI art just see “that’s AI” as “need to get better at using AI” not “need to stop using AI”. Maybe some would care, but as someone who generally doesn’t gaf about what people think about my opinions, I know I wouldn’t. But if I was an artist just wanting to share my art, I’d be more likely to just stop sharing it than jump through whatever hoops you want to prove I’m not guilty.
It’s unfortunate, but this is the burden created by machine generated art. The damage it has created will last for generations at the least.
Some dude flippantly cake me ai on here a few months ago(because of typos ironically enough) and convinced someone else to block me. People suck.
cake…because of typos
Aha! AI!
🤦 I promise that was unintentional.
A lot of the time when any justification is added for the accusation, it’s based on the weakest evidence or logic, like typos when LLMs are generally pretty good at following grammar and spelling rules, as much as they suck at pretty much everything else (or even where they can do well, they still suck because they are unreliable).
“People” isn’t the route of the problem here.
When i saw the character face i unironnically thought it was AI 😭
Luckly I just continue to look at the drawing for other clues and I am sure it’s legit
It’s how they train the AI unfortunately.
I saw a comic that was in the style of a web comic I followed in the early 2000s and it was AI generated. Its really frustrating.
Will anyone learn to be less vociferous with their AI accusations, or only be more vociferous with their dislike for AI and so to make more dubious accusations?
I saw a recent David Revoy comic that everyone here on Lemmy was accusing of being AI. Which is really tragic for someone who goes to such effort, is such a supporter of free software, and in my opinion has a style which is quite far from typical AI output.
AI is like that unwanted child, trying to belong.
Artist self insert, given Lemmy even accused them of being AI despite them documenting everything. That’s unfortunately the only way to validate at the moment, although if I’m being honest I kinda dig behind the scenes. It is especially interesting if you can see a beautiful photograph and all the work they put into getting the lighting just right.
Wait, is it inherently bad for an artist to self-insert? Isn’t that one of the key ways they share their perspective? If there’s some bizarre strawman-ing or self-aggrandizing going on it can problematic but the general idea of an artist self-inserting themselves or their ideas into their work seems fine to me.
I don’t know if the person you replied to implied it was a bad thing, but it’s been a thing for centuries, Caravaggio self inserted himself and people from the street in his paintings, van Eyck hid himself in his paintings, Louis David painted himself among the Coronation of Napoleon, etc
Yes, I didn’t mean to imply it’s a bad thing. Just that it simply is. Plenty of comic artists do that, and I wanted to give context.
Honestly this is one of the biggest issues with it all that you don’t really see talked about much
Artists sink a load of time into a piece of art they are proud of, and because AI has got to the point now it’s not always obvious at first glance to average Joe, so people rely on heuristics to spot it instead.
For this artist apparently it’s “yellows”
For anyone who takes photos (or even video now) even half seriously, photos with Bokeh and good lighting get called out now
You like making instrumental electronic or sampled music? Get ready for everything to be called AI
Even writing: I always used to like using em dashes—they’re a pretty versatile piece of punctuation for any casual speech style of writing. If you use an em dash now though, someone just assumes the text is AI. So I’ve generally just stopped; not because I want to, because AI and people (somewhat understandably) not having a better way to identify AI writing.
Hell, I made an excel sheet the other day to work some stuff out and someone asked how I got the AI to do it…
Now I’m not saying it’s everyone, but I’m seeing a group of people forming, who basically say anything they can’t immediately understand how to do themselves must be AI. I have a suspicion it’s the same demographic that would say “well I could do that” in a modern art museum or “all they do is press play” when looking at any kind of electronic music production.
With photography it’s also a grey area. I’m a professional underwater photographer. I’ve got thousands of dollars of specialized housings, lighting, wet lenses, etc, but the color is still wrong because water. Meanwhile some open water student swam by 40 minutes ago and made the whole area hazy.
So for decades I’ve done various degrees of touch up and and color grading because what you see with your eyes looks nothing like what comes out of the camera because human eyes and brains do a lot of processing that camera sensors don’t.
And then there’s generative stuff that I don’t think impact the art of photography. If someone uses generative noise reduction I don’t think that’s a problem. The non-generative solution to that is spending an extra 10 grand on a better camera and lens, so it’s not as much of a skill issue as a money one. I’m absolutely fine with people using generative tools for that stuff.
Smartphone cameras are almost certainly the largest source of photography in society today, and those things default to doing all kinds of automatic processing on the images they take.
uhh from my experience, any piece of art of sufficient quality will be accused of being AI made these days.
With the recent tesseract drama, the developer put in a filter that filters out all “A.I. bot content”. The filter just basically looked for EM dash lol. I wonder how many other similar filters are out there…? Speaking of which, maybe I should stop using the fancy conjoined triple ellipse character…
I’m currently writing a book and I’m terrified of using EM dashes, even where they would be perfectly applicable. I always end up restructuring the sentences to avoid it. The only instance i keep it is for dialogoue interruptions like:
“I bend over and spread my—”
People who read books are a different breed. I wouldn’t worry about them.
But if we’re going to make a lazy heuristical stand against AI, I’ve always enjoyed the liberal use of semi-colons.
Just use them regardless. A lot of sloppers realized they can ask the slop making machines to leave them out. I even seen stuff when they added random typos to fool some people.
“—cheeks.”
The em dash is just one of the signs that usually (if you use more rhan 1 braincell) does not in itself signal AI. For me at least I need more than just them to identify something as AI, it’s the way they phrase stuff and use typical AI sentence structures.
I agree.
To many times I have to post this meme because someone yet again thinks everything they see is AI. Even if the original picture is like 10 years old. Especially apparent in the “Fuck AI” community.
The only time you posted that meme in the last month was in reply to my comment 2 days ago.
Is that really too many times? Was that picture actually 10 years old? Is Ask Lemmy a “fuck A.I. community”? Was it blatantly obvious those blurry kids with weird looking hands weren’t A.I.?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯Is that when you started stalking the guy?
Lol yep, I’ve seen them twice, must be a stalker! (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) I don’t even know if they’re a guy or not.
Are you really that butthurt that you went through my history?
I’ve mostly stopped posting that picture because telling AI-phobes that not everything is AI gets tiring. So I try to avoid those subs as much as possible.
I’ve also mainly posted this on a different account that I used before this one.
And you should really look into your reading comprehension as well as your AI detection skills. Because I said it is especially apparent in the Fuck AI community, not that it ONLY is in the Fuck AI community.
Also, the hands weren’t weird. You just can’t comprehend perspective.
I think what makes the em dash seem AI-like is… there isnt an em dash button on the keyboard.
So typically the only way those show up is when markdown-to-blog-post tools convert normal dashes into stylized em dashes as a transpiling process.
Stuff like hugo and etc largely do this automatically.
So if a poster uses an em dash out of that context, it right away throws up a red flag cuz… howd you do that easily?
Did you memorize the alt code to make one?
As someone who uses a phone — you just hold a minus until it allows you to input dashes. Also, when I used windows I had it memorized, on Linux it doesn’t always work, but should be Ctrl+U 2014, on Mac it’s just minus with modifier buttons pressed
It’s not hard to input that if you want to
But if you’re writing something significant, you’re probably using a text editor, and many of them will automatically replace the en dash when the em dash when the are spaces on either side.
I use a the Compose key (Compose hyphen hyphen hyphen) or emacs (C-x 8 _ m) on Linux, and on Android, my soft keyboard supports holding hyphen to insert one.
And the Lemmy Web UI converts a triple hyphen to an em-dash.
It depends on the keyboard, and the software. I’m using HeliBoard on my phone right now, and all I have to do to make an em dash is hold the dash key—that’s it. It’s actually quite trivial to add em dashes in various cases, and I wish folks wouldn’t pretend otherwise.
I also make use of other characters, like my beloved interrobang. I actually have that pinned to my clipboard, so I can paste it when it’s appropriate.
“You care about writing enough to use special characters‽”
“Yes.”
Okay, but using the interrobang is a perfect sign that the text isn’t AI generated 😂 Genius move!
Agree about the em-dash thing, it’s really not that hard.
I suppose it is a woefully underutilized glyph, isn’t it? I consider it very important, and make sure to check any typefaces I download, to ensure it’s designed before using them in creative projects. While it didn’t become mainstream, I love letting people know it exists through writing when an opportunity arises.
Exactly, they’re usually pretty easy to add if you want to. I totally understand most folks don’t talk so formally when in informal settings, but the em dash thing is hardly the smoking gun paranoid people want it to be. A lot of the “tells” by themselves are just punching at competent writers; it’s the same thing that happens to visual artists, or musicians, or anything else creative. You can try and find several tells at once—and sometimes you do—but it tends to boil down to glorified witch hunting, rather than something of substance. People want desperately to be able to just know something is AI generated on vibes alone. It’s not always going to be that easy, and most aren’t the sleuths they believe they are.
Did you memorize the alt code to make one?
Fun fact: on some keyboard layouts you can access the em dash easly
This is the most common Italian layout
You can see that you just need to press control+hyphen
The marking above the hyphen there is an underscore — it’s telling you that hitting shift-hyphen will give you an underscore.
You may be using software that supports inserting an em-dash when you hit that combination, but I don’t believe that it’s the keyboard layout that dictates that.
searches
It sounds like Microsoft Word does something similar:
Use Ctrl with keyboard shortcuts to insert an em or en dash
To insert an em dash, click where you want to insert the em dash and then press Ctrl + Alt + – (minus sign on the numeric keypad).
To insert an en dash, click where you want to insert the en dash and then press Ctrl + – (minus sign on the numeric keypad).
Yes, if you use shift it will give you an underscore but with control (or alt gr) it will give an em dash, should be a thing on Windows and i belive KDE
Or it could be that the keyboard that i use is just like ts but i doubt
let me – try something
yep, lemmy can do it.
Weird — I just see a double dash. I guess it’s just your client rendering it differently?
Yep, client-side rendering.
The Lemmy Web UI converts a double hyphen to an en-dash and a triple to an em-dash when displaying text. However, not all clients do this. I’m viewing this in Infinity, and it leaves the hyphens intact.
This conversion happens when viewing the comment, rather than writing it.
i gotta be honest, before it became a big talking point with AI, i didn’t realize em dashes, en dashes, and dashes were different characters, just different grammatical functions of the same character. i figured fancy word processors made them longer to make them distinct from minus signs, but that was it!
If you go through Unicode, there are a bunch of hyphen-like characters. In many typefaces, some may appear identical.
searches
EDIT: That’s not an exhaustive list, either. Off-the-cuff, I can also think of the line-drawing characters, which also have a horizontal line.
I’ll be honest, I was this moment-old when I released that too, thanks to reading this comment. I, also, assumed they were just different stylisations of the same thing.
Mac has always been opt+shift+hyphen
Honestly for old versions of windows yes, you had to learn the arcane alt+0151, but I was already used to that for typing in french on a British keyboard. It’s now more like Mac with win+shift+hyphen
Android and IPhone, you just hold on the hyphen to get to them
And many word processors (and Linux via compose) turn a triple hyphen into one
On Google keyboard you can just hold press the - key to get – or — or even •
It’s one click away on my android keyboard.
On a Mac it’s shift + option + dash. Just option + dash for an en dash.
Did you memorize the alt code to make one?
If you use the compose key, you don’t have to memorize the unicode value. You just press
compose ---.if you use lemmy, type
a -- bto get “a – b”.With that you made an en-dash, not an em-dash.
Let’s see if it does anything if you use three a — b vs two a – b ?
Edit: Yep looks like that’s it.
Interestingly, in my client both show up as separate dashes. I suspect it’s simply a ligature in the font used in your frontend.
E: Hm, no that is not it, copy-pasting the text from the web frontend copies the em- an en-dashes, so it’s actually replacing the characters during rendering.
So if a poster uses an em dash out of that context, it right away throws up a red flag cuz… howd you do that easily?
Did you memorize the alt code to make one?
On KDE, the default keyboard layout makes it pretty easy to type the various dashes and quotation marks, so that’s one way. Ever since discovering that, I’ve been making a conscious effort to use them (because I am the type of person who likes doing the typograhically correct thing, even in an informal context… maybe that’s the problem, actually). Haven’t been called out as “AI” yet, but it’s probably going to happen at some point.
Same on GNOME, em-dash is RightAlt-- on my layout
If it gives you any consolation, I’m also a fan of em dashes and don’t assume LLM output when seeing them. But there are other telltale signs of LLM writing. At least when the LLM is not instructed to hide those maybe?
The “default” LLM style is so grating to me, in a condescending corpospeak kind of way.
After several years of Word automatically changing a dash between two words to a wider dash (maybe not the same type as emdash?) it’s weird to see those same dashes becoming a tell of inauthentic.
When are we going to see the AI using two spaces after a full stop to try and pretend that it types like someone more than 50 years old?
You’re absolutely right! Let’s see if we can find better ways to determine if something is AI-generated:
- what other styles are giveaways?
- maybe a combination of em dashes and bulleted lists?
- I’m running out of ideas for this joke.
One thing that always makes me think something is AI written is the repeated use of sentences like “It’s not X, its Y”.
Circling back to the point of this post though, genAI learnt that from real people’s writing first.
And if they are training for it at all, genAI will eventually get better at not being seen as AI than real people.
I use that so much I just assumed AI got it from me
AI writes like a hybrid of an opinion article journalist and a know-it-all redditor.
It’s very common on journalism.
This artist has it rough in particular.
i think this is more a problem with the digital art. AI hasnt sprung arms nor a wallet to go out and buy the crazy expensive art supplies yet required to put blobs on the canvas.
Give it a few years, and some very hateful AI bro will build a CNC machine that prints JPEGs using oil paint.
This really wouldn’t be that hard to do, CNC machines are essentially step motors on rails holding a tool head. Old (pre-them just being big inkjets) plotters were basically a 2 axis CNC with a tool head that would retrieve, move, lower, raise and replace specially designed pens. My high school had one, a pretty large format one. So you could already pretty trivially have AI gen sketches drawn with actual pens on actual paper if you go find an old plotter, and a CNC painting machine would be about 80% the same thing.
The harder part by far would be building software to convert a JPEG into instructions to paint with and have it look good.
You can write or draw stuff with a fountain pen with an AxiDraw, and that’s an off-the-shelf system. I imagine that it could paint as well.
CNC machine that prints
I think printers are just CNC machines that print.
ok go ahead and outrage on a whatif then. suit yourself. meanwhile the digital world is the thing that is burning right now.
Found the hateful AI bro!
Your trolling is amateur level
There are people getting paid to train AI with their manual skills right now.
And of course they’re exploited workers in “third world” countries where poverty may be life-threatening (not talking about the US this time), so nobody can realistically fight back.
Capitalism is a bitch.
1993
Current AI doesn’t have enough Data.
