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Paul McCartney’s official Reddit account seems to have been banned. The account, u/paulmccartney, had just dropped a set of photos and videos from the first night of his shows at the Fonda Theatre. It went straight into the r/PaulMcCartney subreddit. Then, not long after, the whole thing disappeared.
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It’s funny how a lot of the complaints I’m reading here are about how Reddit is unfriendly toward left-leaning people but all the right wing people complain about how Reddit is a cesspool of liberal propaganda.
It just goes to show that the platform plays both sides just to promote hate and anger.
I visited after I got banned and the default posts that show up without logging in (therefore uncurated) were all so irritating that I had to assume they were all ragebait.
Reddit is a cesspool of liberal
Liberals are not left wing
But the right doesn’t know that.
Yes they are. Liberal covers a wide range of ideology. The liberal versus leftists debate is a Russian pysop
Ok, whatever. The point was that they have fun seeing us bicker over shit for their profit.
It’s because the platform is full of people who can’t handle someone not agreeing with them, so anyone who says they’re wrong is immediately labelled as the enemy.
I got banned for posting that Trump is a piece of shit. KTHXBAI!
Reddit is hostile towards left-leaning people, and it is also a cesspool of liberal propaganda. Liberals fucking hate leftists, even more than they hate fascists, because liberalism is fundamentally pro-capitalism. That’s why the mainstream media is currently crashing out about people like Hasan Piker, who actually represent a growing base of support for socialism, and they run every possible smear they can.
From my perspective “liberal” is still right-wing.
“Wing” is not the term to use. Liberals sat on the left side of parliament, literally the left wing of a hall, so it’s accurate and quite literal to call them “left wing”. What isn’t accurate is calling them leftist, as in socialist, and I think that’s the term everyone is actually talking about? Everyone is talking past each other here cause of the wing thing.
Well… The “wing” of a parliament very roughly represents a political compass. Liberals aren’t left-wing anymore by virtue of having more politically left parties that occupy those physical seats today.
It does create a very funny situation like here in Denmark where “Venstre” (literally The Danish word for “Left”) is a right-wing political party. More right-wing than “Liberale Alliance” (Danish Liberal Party).
But Venstre used to be the left-wing party when it formed. Since then, green parties, socialist parties, communist parties, and various parties adjacent to those ideologies, have formed to occupy the left side of the parliament seats, pushing Venstre’s physical seating position all the way to the right side.
With liberals and moderates being more politically left than them, Venstre now sits right next to the most conservative parties of Denmark. They’re still keeping the name, though.
Welcome to your own reality
More like the European reality.
Compared to Europe, America doesn’t have a left wing. Just a right wing and an extreme right wing.
"Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.[1][2] "
Which translates to:
- Lower taxes.
- Less welfare.
- Defunding public services in favour of private services.
- Less regulation/“smaller government”.
- More laws protecting acquisition and ownership.
In other words, all the basic right-wing talking points minus nationalism,religion, and “country first”.
Liberalism is fundamentally a right wing ideology, it’s primarily concerned about the freedom of markets, rather than the freedoms of people, and when it comes down to choosing between the rights of individuals and the interests of corporations, liberals will side with business interests, nearly every single time. Usually, they’ll always couch it in more progressive terms, like talking about jobs and economic growth. That’s why both mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans agree on most issues, because they’re both pro-business, pro-capitalist institutions.
So you can’t be pro human liberty anymore? That’s what being a liberal is to me. Corporations are not our friends and hate them as much as a leftist. In my mind, my and my peoples liberty trumps your idea of a perfect economic system. Whatever happens along the way to socialism or back to capitalism, human rights must come first. I don’t know why that concept is so hard for leftists to grasp. I think leftists are affected by a similar psyop that affects Republicans in this regard
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Moreover, you seem to be lumping a bunch of things together.
Are you American? I could blame that on the lack of a proper representative democracy. Everything gets shovelled together into either one camp or the other, even when they don’t have anything related to each other.
I know a great deal about what I’m talking about, but if you feel that I’m wrong about something in particular, I’d be happy to discuss it. I am not American.
Of course you can, but when people identify themselves or others as “liberal”, they’re not referring to individual liberty, they’re usually referring to “liberalism”, which does contain some elements of individual liberties, but far more importance is given to free market economics and free flow of capital, than it is to individual freedoms. That’s why corporations can invest anywhere and borders don’t pose much issue for them, whereas it is very hard and expensive for individuals to move to another country.
You’re talking about lasseiz fair liberalism. Billionaires and corps are not in any way shape or form “liberal” these days unless you want to talk about neoliberals who pretend to be altruistic. It’s all a psyop to divide the proletariat
No, I’m just talking about liberalism. You probably have some high-minded enlightenment-era ideals floating around in your head about what liberalism is, but I’m telling you, your ideas about how liberalism is about freedom, that’s the actual psyop to divide the proletariat you spoke of. Liberalism is functionally one big propaganda operation to replace monarchies with oligarchies.
Reddit will ban you for even the mildest of takes. Their AI admin is draconian in metering out bans. The platform seems to really want to get rid of all of the pesky humans still there and just be a safe space for bots.
I was joking with a commenter, they said something like “oh, my mistake. Please don’t kill me” and I replied “haha too late, I’m already coming at you with scissors!” and I got a suspension for threatening someone.
Weird how my reddit use went down by 99% after that. I still have the account, I keep thinking maybe I’ll need it to ask a question or something… Probably wont. Might as well go delete it now lol
Yeah I miss asking super niche questions on certain subs, because there’s usually enough users to have a prompt reply.
But fediverse is growing, slowly. Sadly best way to keep growing it is to stay and promote it on Reddit, everyone who’s fed up for the same reasons we are are ripe for the plucking.
Comes with a bunch of idiots, of course, myself included so YMMV.
I got a site wide ban and all my alts were banned at the same time because I called someone who was shitting on Trans people “a disgusting piece of human garbage”. Apparently that was inciting hatred or violence and I can no longer make an account without it being banned within an hour or two.
To be fair if you mention trans at all you’re probably getting banned and get your name on a list.
Fuck me I guess. I’m Poly married to a trans person and have a trans gf. I guess that’s what got me.
I honestly don’t know how anyone stays on Reddit very long. They permaban people for ANYTHING these days. They abdicated their site to psychopathic, power-tripping mods.
Just for context, Ghislane Maxwell was a Reddit mod.
And their bans really stick. If you piss them off enough, they connect every account you’ve ever had, somehow, and the ones they miss, if you log in it’s a matter of days before they catch on.
It’s kind of impressive, actually.
It’s not even worth lurking there. Every post is just five “original” comments, and then everything below those are people repeating the same five comments a hundred times.
That was a thing WAY before AI and bots tho…
Absolutely.
The new bots just add to the cacaphony of mindless comments.
Probably not relevant to the topic at hand.
It’s pretty relevant. Who are you pulling all that weight for?
How is getting banned for the mildest takes relevant for posting a link to a drop box with concert images?
Are you actively ignoring the similarities between these instances or do you genuinely not understand that they’re both examples of strange and excessive moderation?
To me this seems like an auto mod fuck up that is quite reasonable and an embarrassing delay of manual review coupled with a classic dogpile.
If it gets manually reviewed it’ll only be because this dogpile happened. Lots of people get banned like this with no recourse because they aren’t Paul McCartney
That moderator should be un-moderated.
The whole platform should cease to exist.
Yes, I’ve been getting very bad vibes from that place for a while now. It seems very filtered and the content is no longer reflective of what people upvote. It’s tracking more to corporate interests and propaganda. Also, I think a lot of people have unintentionally divulged their most private information and don’t even know it. Their innermost thought expressed in comments, likes dislikes cataloged in votes, all under the false sense of an anonymity. It would be very easy, especially now with AI, to link IPs, browser thumbprints, and writing style analysis back to individual people, at a mass scale. I think a reckoning is coming.
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Because public-facing online spaces are underregulated.
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Marasmus line?
Nobody knows yet what triggered the ban. It could have been an automatic system, a moderator decision, or even some glitch with account verification. Reddit has not said a word about it.
probably thier AI moderation, which is does it arbitrarily.
I’ve been temp banned from Reddit multiple times now, for simply opposing genocide & war on behalf of Israel. People getting banned from Reddit should be seen as a badge of honor & means they’re likely doing something right.
Can confirm, got permbanned for clowning on Nazis. It is a badge of honor to wear with pride.
Queue nazi-sympathizers showing up to say “yOu CaN’t JuSt CaLl AnYoNe YoU dIsAgReE wItH a NaZi!!1!1”
My brother in christ, the dude was wearing a red armband with a swastika and doing nazi salutes…
Queue
At least they’re politely lining up to do it.
Because Reddit sucks.
Toxic; also mean.
They asked a reasonable question and you seem fit to spew hate.
My gender-non-specific human, why do you insist on calling every single person here shitty for calling out BS reddit tactics?
Are you in love with their CEO or something? It’s a little weird.
Spez found lemmy! Everybody, scatter!
Is it “hate” to think a platform sucks?
If brought up in this context it can be.
They asked a clarifying question which was dismissed with that. Implying you must not like reddit and ignore it’s motives for it is unworthy.
Fuck Reddit.
Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
reddit is ruled by bots now, makes little sense to stay there.
only reason I still go there is my mental support subreddits. r/stopdrinking, r/CPTSD, r/RaisedByNarcissists…
If those communites were thriving here, I’d never go back to reddit again 🫤
I really miss those kinds of spaces, oh well
This is basically the case with any community that isn’t one of the broad topic/mass appeal subreddits. If you’re looking for discussion on anything even slightly specific Lemmy and other alternatives just completely fall on their face. Whether that’s support for a specific addiction or even just conversation about one particular video game series, your options are Reddit, discord, Twitter, or nothing.
That used to be a problem on Reddit, too. Maybe the current drama will drive more traffic to the Fediverse.
the massive purges last year did, reddit kinda wisen up they realize they are banning to many users.
everywhere is ruled by bots now
Right? From the posts on PTB the Fediverse has the exact same issues as Reddit except it’s multiplied by all the different instances and the powermods hoarding as many communities as they can grasp in its early creation.
They are quicker to just instance ban and ban across all communities than Reddit ever was.
I’ve never been banned from any instance or even community here on Lemmy. Every time I see people complain about it, I can’t help but wonder what they got banned for.
Just because you don’t know it’s happening doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Like I mentioned, take some time to watch PTB.
What is PTB? Pardon my ignorance
Ye Power Trippin Bastards. It should probably be a required join for new accounts, it’s great to see how both ends of the candle are burning.
I got banned from one community ages ago for “being a terrible person”. But that was only once, and I post a lot everywhere, so it might just be an outlier mod. IMHO the important difference is that I can’t get banned from Lemmy entirely for saying “Luigi Mangione”.
I got banned from a heap of lemm.world comms because I kept callout out misogyny :3 mod log said something about me being insincere
I just want to say that I know people who have known Paul for many years, and every single one of them have nothing but good things to say about him. He knows people want to catch him doing jerk behavior, so he bends over backwards to be polite and respectful to EVERYBODY. He’s a Righteous Dude.
Unfortunately my first association is the “Glass Walls” ad that was hammered into my brain hundreds of times before I learned to block them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTifP6idBPs
No, Paul, do you think slaughterhouse employees are even more likely to be vegetarian? Good intentions, but so infuriating.
I’m a carnivore, but I respect reasonable vegetarian/vegans. I’ll take a rock star taking a stand like that over Lars attacking music fans because they love music too much.
Lars? Lars Ulrich of Metallica fame? Why would he get mad over fans liking music? When did this happen? The Napster case, while bullshit, at least had something of a leg to stand on but this is just absurd.
I was referring to the Napster case, where Lars fully cemented his reputation as a complete dickhead.
I was always partial to:
MC LARS - Download This Song https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkuiChImb8
Got banned from some subs once because the editing software I was using to sanitize and delete my account hadn’t yet removed an edited comment.
Mod quoted it. Sent it to me and said this makes no sense. Banned.
The comment being edited was 4 years old.
Lmfao
Idiot mods gonna idiot.
Same thing happened to be. I got banned from over 30 subreddits for using that comment delete app.
YOU CAN’T QUIT! YOU’RE BANNED!!!
Haha pretty much
Fuck Reddit Mods. Well not literally, of course.
I say fuck Reddit and Lemmy too for not providing the tools to audit modderators. Like we need a removed post/comment/account graveyard where anyone can review and inspect what is being removed with the reasons as to why so that we can have assurance mods are not abusing. Like it is such a simple problem to solve , yet no one wants to implement and thus, here we are.
Aren’t you just describing a modlog? The only annoying feature is that mod name is obscured so you have to jump a couple hoops to find who did what and whether they still are mods.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
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hopefully he moves to the threadiverse, though it is unlikely.
Mastodon would be a reasonable goal.
Why limit to one aspect? Mastodon (announcements) + Pixelfed (photos of the concerts) + Lemmy/PieFed (fan discussion) + PeerTube (videos of the concerts) + Loops (shorts about the concerts and announcements) + …
Imagine the hundreds of fans that could be reached!
You kid but it literally starts this way. Imagine if someone like Paul McCartney says, “I’m moving over to mastodon and you should too.”
He starts to share exclusive content there, sharing videos on loops…
People will stop going to other places.
But the content has to come first.
Why depend on someone else’s mood when it’s your business? Videos on Youtube, fanpage on Reddit or Facebook, short videos on TikTok, news on X, … : they can pull the plug whenever they like.
With the Fediverse you can create a personal instance only for your business.
Is Paul on Lemmy yet?
Reddits commie style snowflake moderation…
Man. Reddit has really just become a joke.
It’s so bad it almost seems intentional.
They’re making money by doing it. Conservatives monetize better.
…Reddit is the opposite of Republican. The people there are aggressively far left. It is hard to believe that it’s not an artificially enforced echo chamber.
The problem with echo chambers is that they are politically sterile. By aggressively forcing Republicans and moderates off the platform, we lose the ability to influence their stances and opinions. It becomes a circle jerk.
Reddit mods (actual mods not subreddit mods) are a bunch of filthy pedophiles.
No. Get out.
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
I got a 3 day ban yesterday for “threatening violence or harm” for posting about OP breaking both his arms in a thread bringing up past reddit memes. I had left reddit for almost two years before being drawn back in for a handful miscellaneous subs. I don’t think I’ll be going back.
Lol.
I literally just got suspended 15 minutes ago for promoting violence for pointing out that America is going to see a rise in terrorism going forward for our actions in the middle east.
No call to violence. A simple statement of fact.
I know how to circumvent Reddit’s methods for keeping me out, so I’m already back in with a new account. I have a browser script that re-adds all my subs for me. And I know I’m not shadowbanned cuz I know how to check that. This’ll probably be my 50-70th Reddit account in the last decade. Which means Reddit has been trying and failing to keep me off their platform for a decade. I don’t even care that it’s just a 3 day suspension. I’m not going to be silenced for 3 days.
Fuck Reddit.
My three notable bans:
- Banned from politics for quoting the Constitution on treason punishment
- Banned from gym for arguing with a “pro” claiming there are no stupid exercises and bad form doesn’t exist.
- Banned from child free for saying not every one that is child free hates children with the passion of a burning sun and wants them all to die.
Edit: I forgot to mention when time number 2 happened. I asked the mod “Why was I banned?” Then my entire account got a 3 month suspension for “Mod abuse” by the admins.
I am permanently banned, for using the term “kick rocks and pound sand,” which is just American for “there’s nothing you can do.” An excuse to get one more leftist off the platform.
I got permanently banned for insinuating Donald Trump was a pedophile. I appealed and they blew me off, no response. Tried to sign up for another account and got immediately IP banned for ban evasion.
Id been on the platform for 14 years and had over 1M comment karma. Somehow the last 14 years of my contributions to the site never caused anything, not even so much as a subreddit ban, but pointing out that Donald Trump is a sexual predator was a bridge too far for them.
I find it curious that Reddit Admins are trying to limit discussion of the factual statement that our current president is a documented child rapist. Guess the investors theyre courting are probably in the files, or at the very least, dont see nothin wrong with a little pedorasty.
Reddit is quietly pivoting to become a Conservative platform, with lots and lots of monetization.
I knew that the people running the show were scumbags, but i guess I never knew they were MAGA scumbags.
I should have made the switch after their API horseshit, but I guess a lesson learned late is better than not learning the lesson at all.
They aren’t MAGA as much as they are capitalist, and MAGA is in power right now
Spez is also into whatever ideology is popular among the tech rich of Silicon Valley at any given time. Right now that’s technofascism
When Epstein was sent to prison and was in protective custody, I suggested that he shouldn’t have special treatment and belonged in genpop.
Banned for advocating violence against someone.
May that mod have a spasm and faceplant hard on a gravel road, then be forced to drink cold hot-dog water while listening to Baby Shark at high volume on an endless loop. And may all their teeth fall out but one, and in that, may they have a toothache.
I got banned for suggesting someone should drill a hole in the Charlie kirk statue
That’s somehow badly proportioned. Didn’t he have a smaller face on that big head?
He looks fused with the Orange Man and that’s just cursed.
Compared to the ones listed above you this one I can understand, although it is really funny.
What’s funny about ruining a perfectly good drill bit?
My favorite will always be being banned from AITAH for being too mean?/honest?/using a curse word? I’m not sure they just said my language was inappropriate. I may have used the word asshole.
AItah/aita is mostly AI generated which is kind of wierd to ban for that.
I think my worst one was being banned from the united kingdom sub for suggesting an immigrant who stabbed a random child in the face should be deported to the middle of the ocean. Had a few hundreds up votes when they banned me so I’d say most people agreed.
Heh, I was also banned for the same reason as you - quoting the exact text of the constitution to say what should happen to insurrectionists. My appeal was denied in seconds.
The time before that it was during the presidential debate live watch threads, and there was a portion of the broadcast where the camera dipped away from the speaker, so I wrote “kill the cameraman!”, an obviously non-serious statement in reference to the subreddit /r/killthecameraman, and got banned for that. That was only a three week suspension I think. The mod who banned me also handled my appeal as well, promptly ignored.
An old account got banned on multiple completely unrelated subreddits because I was having a discussion with someone that self identified as a “responsible pitbull owner” and I asked them as part of the pitbull community to talk to irresponsible pitbull owners and make them responsible instead of defending them. Turns out the “responsible pitbull owner” was one of those mod hoarders on their alt account and went full pitbull when somebody dared to disagree with them. I filed a complaint to admins for mod abuse and obviously nothing happened.
And my current account has had multiple temporary bans for making fun of nazis. I mean, sure, I can take a temp ban for “inciting violence” when I remind the kids that every day is punch a nazi day. But these fragile little snowflakes can’t even take some basic banter and the mods fold immediately when the nazis start weeping. It’s funny and sad, isn’t it.
What do you mean bad form doesn’t exist? Serious question.
He was saying there’s no such thing as bad form for an exercise. I was posting video clips of people with bad form getting hurt as examples. He would then make up some stuff about it wasn’t the form that caused them to get hurt.
Oh, sorry, I didn’t read it correctly. I thought YOU were saying it.
