Pretty sure Hitler’s death was international news.
I know whose death we’ll celebrate next
Yup, we know who your talking about here as well.
Ol’ ketamine head.
It didn’t spread as fast as this one will though. Every timezone will get the news immediately once it breaks anywhere.
They had amateur radio at that point, so that news was certainly disseminated through official channels within minutes.
and so was 9/11, and Katrina.
both showed incredible, international outpourings of support, generosity, and kindness, and opened the door to a potential better future.
and both opportunities were frittered away on stupidity and arrogance.
Katrina and the Waves, the Eurovision competitors?
My thoughts exactly. I will totally celebrate Trump’s death, but anyone who thinks its going to change anything for the better in any substantial way is sadly oblivious. In fact it frustrates me that so many people seem to think everything will be fine once Trump dies. Already the seeds of inaction and complacency are sewn.
You don’t get it. Without dear leader they fall apart. They don’t have anyone to replace him, at least no one their voters care even half as much about as him. The cult will die with him and that is a HUGE opportunity to capitalize on.
Nah bro, I wish, but nah. The damage is done. Don’t you see? The cult, Trump, all that was the booster rocket. This shit is in stable orbit now. It doesn’t matter what happens to that apparatus anymore.
the problem is that trump has advanced the republican agenda by 300 miles (to use a convenient conversational example), and when he dies, the advance will falter and fall back to maybe 250 miles.
and the fools will celebrate that as a return to normalcy and a victory, ignorant to the 250 miles of advancement they made, secured, and locked down by their complacency.
Judging by what happenned after the last Trump presidency, I think your expectation that over 80% of what he and his party have done will be actually undone by a Democrat POTUS is incredibly optimistic.
My bet would be at most 10% - so 300 miles his way and only 30 miles back after him.
It won’t be fine, but no one else has whatever twisted mind control is necessary to control the worshippers. I’m sure they’ll try to apply things smarter, they’ll get the backing of their billionaire owner, but it’s not intelligence that made all this happen, not ability. It’s all the sycophants and grifters falling inline and that won’t happen for someone else
Everyone wants to feel validated like a hero but with none sacrifice a hero does.
Pure envy drives the masses. It is one of the many poisons in the current iteration of society
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
A horrible, horrible symptom killing that diseased country even faster and making it spread even more and nastier efflusions all around than usual, but none the less somebody like him would never have reached that position if America wasn’t already profoundly sick.
If the disease isn’t cured all that will happen is that another one like him is bound to get the post in at most 8 years after a caretaker POTUS that does nothing to undo the shit he did, same as last time.
Comparing 9/11 or Katrina to the end of WW2 is a tad inaccurate to say the least.
It’s also simply untrue - it took much more time for information to travel, and no one was ‘celebrating’ 9/11 aside from… well, you should know the types.
Mossad?
I was thinking more the ‘Anything against the west is good’ types, but yeah Mossad was probably pretty pleased with how things played out.
The only people confirmed to have been dancing in the streets in response to 9/11 were confirmed mossad agents. Israel tried to show videos of Muslims and Arabs celebrating the attacks, but all of them were people actually celebrating sports teams or weddings.
You mean that dude they hang on a cross two millenia ago?
Did they nail him to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change?
He was nailed to that tree to make way for a spice caravan bypass!
No, because if that dude actually existed, he would’ve been known by a small population only. But that German dude killed 1912 years later was globally famous.
Just in case, the consensus among historians is that Jesus did exist.
Yeah I went to school with a few of them.
One reason I don’t believe internet atheist types are smarter than religious people is because the way a lot of them get when you mention that Jesus being a real person is historian consensus is eerily similar to how Evangelicals get about evolution.
Post doesn’t say the first time someones death was cele bvbration, just the first global celebration. Thought the post was about Christmas or a celebration like that. But celebrating the end of a war makes sense too.
I’ve never thought about it until now, but there are definitely different definitions (or at least uses of the word) for celebrate. You might celebrate your wedding, but you certainly don’t have the same type of event for your anniversary. Same for your favorite sports team winning the championship, vs any observance of previous victories.
Jesus is a verified factual historical figure who was executed more or less according to Biblical tradition.
My understanding is that the Romans killed Jesus because they just wanted to avoid Jewish people rioting against Roman occupation. The Jewish priests framed Jesus so this would happen because he was speaking against specifically their religious power (He was not anti-rome).
I subscribe to the belief that some of Jesus’ disciples faked his resurrection and started a cult.
Much of the ‘historical Jesus’ movements especially since the 1970’s or so, and especially in the USA, often a little strange ime, no one knows and it’s fine.
FC Baur > Ernest Renan > Joseph Smith > Bart Ehrman kinda line…evangelical adult Jesus nerds hoping something in the 27 book NT can be clung to but struggling with magical women from Eve to Mary being core. It’s been big business in the US over the past 50yrs or so with the SBL evangelizing Markan Priority and seven letters of St Saul and all those bible schools trying really hard to ignore anything not in the little 66 book KJV’s for lolz.
Jesus of Nazareth is far from verified afaiu.
He pops up in Marcion’s New Testament ~140CE and peeps not sure if the christos is flesh or not there and the discussion around this issue hasn’t really gone away despite burning rather a lot of people and books mentioning it since…the wiki article you cite suggests dismissing them as ‘fringe’ or ‘radical’ instead of burning or screaming heretic. Prior to ~140CE is anyone’s guess and why those defending their Chistology be it Islam, Tewahedo or SBL say “Most of our scholars agree xyz” instead of providing any evidence.
This seems like St Paul: why?
Why would the noble St Mark do what we accuse St Marcion of? 'cause he’s a bigger keyboard warrior than Marcion was
Good scholars often don’t comment upon this stuff as there is little worth saying but Michael Penn gives a little insight into the weird world of ‘the historical Jesus’ in NT scholarship here.
Jesus is a verified factual historical figure
[Citation needed]
And what the fuck do you think they put that Wikipedia link for?
Harry Potter has a Wikipedia entry too.
Now find me one for the historicity of Harry Potter. “Evolution is just a theory”-ass moment.
[Citation needed]
Brain Pulse needed.
Like seriously so easy to find that for yourself unless you’re an AI slop consumer.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and the idea that Jesus was a mythical figure has been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.
Brain pulse? 😆 Breaking out the first grade insults that were thrown at you as a child is really incredibly pathetic.
Try opening a book other than just the one. Come back when you have an insult worth reading.
Breaking out the first grade insults
I have to insult you in a way you can understand or it’s pointless.
Come back when you have an insult worth reading.
You should be thanking me since you weirdly enjoy this.
You replied with “Just insulting you on your education level” and then deleted it, probably because someone else told you it was dumb. Then your “upgrade” from that reply is this? You’re hopeless.
Faked resurrection?! Now I’ve heard everything!
It seems likely that he was an actual person. It is not verified, nor is it verifiable. This is the kind of shit Bible apologists like to whip out as if it confirms their beliefs. Almost to a person, people who refer to the Historicity of Jesus Wikipedia page use terms like “verified fact” in the same breath. If you’re not intending to be a Bible apologist, you should probably take a different tack.
Nobody (especially the apologist) gives a shit whether some rando Nazarine created a religious movement. They were a dime a dozen. And just because one did, doesn’t mean he is the Son of God, or that God even exists. There is literally no useful knowledge to be had in pointing out that Jesus was probably a real person, so the assumption will always be made that if you’re hell bent on making sure everybody knows he was so totally super-duper real guys, then you must have an agenda.
I’m sorry you’re so upset about people correcting misinformation.
PS: There’s one useful thing about telling people that Jesus existed: We don’t have to suffer smug atheists being like “haha Jesus is fake I’m so smart.”
Calling Jesus “verified fact” is the only misinformation in this thread buddy. I’m sorry you and all the morons like you believe in fairy tales. The world sucks because of it.
Well he’s attested in literary evidence with uncontested reliability, which makes him about as unverified as Julius Caesar.
simultaneous
Orthodox Christians: am I a joke to you?
(Some sects celebrate as late as January 19th)
Text as an image
Images are just numbers.
Lots and lots of numbers being rendered at 10x the size of other text on screen and without word wrap
And nobody really knows if numbers exist, if there is nobody there to count.
You sower of doubt!
Ok, diseases, this is your chance: whichever one of you gets him, we will cease funding for curing you.
Heart disease. Stroke. Cancer. Chronic flatulence.
Let the games begin.
Edit: limited time offer. If you get him after the offer expires, the funding continues to find a cure for you.
One explanation of the box he’s wearing on his ass is that it’s a continuous IV pump required for extreme cases of pulmonary/arterial hypertension. It looks like it may end up being heart disease.
Thank you. I kept reading people offering endless diaper jokes as the explanation, but he’s been wearing diapers for years and that ass box is new. Your suggestion is the first realistic guess I’ve seen.
As an aside, this video came out on the official WH press secretary’s X account. Looks like Karoline Leavitt is even more pissed off about being left behind on the decoy plane than we thought, lol.
Also, she has a rich old husband, and two babies, and the president kept calling her on the phone screaming at her. Nobody rich as she is needs to put up with that.
This guy forgot about new years
Time zones: am I a joke to you?
Nope, New Years is a rolling celebration at midnight local time.
You guys are a bit optimistic if you think Mitch McConnell’s absence isnt a test run for something.
Even if they’ve heard the name before, not one person I know outside of the U.S. knows who McConnell is. Trump is known and despised worldwide.
not one person I know outside of the U.S. knows who McConnell is
I know about a lot of your batshit politicians but everything I have learned about them was against my will.
Unfortunately most people in the U.S. can say the same thing.
They need to do more than pretend he’s at school in Canada. In McConnell’s case, his state of limbo actually serves both parties. Maybe the Democratic party more so than the Republicans.
I’ve no doubt they’ll try to create an animated Trump, but the tech’s not there yet, and he’ll feel wrong to his base.
No cult of personality has survived the death of its leader without an extensive transition process in advance, either to usher in a replacement leader, or to turn it into a cult of an idea.
(I’m absolutely sure they’ll pretend that Trump is sending messages from beyond the grave. That may work for a while, though it didn’t with Charlie Kirk.)
I’m absolutely sure they’ll pretend that Trump is sending messages from beyond the grave.
And they’ll use it to sell one last cryptoscam before bailing out with the money.
I think they mean testing if they can have a politician be dead and just pretend they aren’t
Trump 2028 will be run dead or alive, exactly.
I’m sure they already have the LLM ready to run his socials.
I’m sure there are a lot of techbros that think Warhammer 40k is aspirational and they’d love serving a braindead emperor on life support who sends them telepathic commands only they can receive.
He means the Republicans will just Weekend at Bernies him to maintain power the same way they are with McConnell.
I didn’t think he’s actually dead, just on life support or unable to function.
First covid vaccine was too, no?
already got my wine picked out.
One person passes, the next one fills their role.
Yeah and the likelihood of that person being less of a fuckwit is very high given the absoluteness of the fuckwittery of the current one.
Ahh yes, 1945, when a huge portion of the adult population carried battery powered tube radios around in their pockets.
No, but there were radios everywhere in homes, shops, cafes, bars, etc, and wireless telegraphy was near instantaneous. Newspapers with ‘extra extra read all about it!’ Would have hit the stands within hours. So yes, within 48 hours of Hitler’s death people absolutely knew that the fucker was dead.
Simultaneous - adjective - occurring, operating, or done at the same time
I love how everyone knows exactly who this is referring to without including his name.
January 1st of 2000 would like to dispute this claim. At some point the world really was just one big party.
It wasn’t simultaneous though, because timezones.
Oh it was at some point, it just didn’t start simultaneously; nor would op’s celebration.
Not sure about this. The Russians will be ordered to mount their leaders BF
I know it is a typo, but all Russians forced to mount Trump sounds… Appropriate!
Well, the World Cup exists
Soccer is extremely popular the world over so I image that did it first
You’re right though, everybody was so happy Argentine lost.
