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A car is needed for all in the USA. A Camera is not. The uber driver has two jobs while the photographer also has two jobs. My mind is blown. Couples please share your shots so I can take dumps. Maybe you like dumps. It is what it is. Enjoy your slop you little piggies.
All of your silly little lives are hobbies. Peasants… fuck your wedding hahahaha. Stupid idiots don’t get it. You eventually will. I Quit… Here’s Why the Technician Shortage Is Getting Worse
Okay real talk here, how tf is this Xavier guy basically everywhere? Did he go to meme school?
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Does he make up content to react to? Is that his thing?
If people just want the uber price for pictures, hire the uber to pick you up and ask him to take a picture of you with your cellphone. Then you’ll have a $12 picture that you can do whatever you want with.
Pppffffssshhhh… 5k?!?that is hobby level money. I’m over 15k into just my lenses and I do this as a hobby and shoot friends and family for free.
Bro… Shooting your friends and family is messed up… Whether someone pays you to or not…
I kill people for money… But you are my friend… So I will kill you for free
Post a photo so we know you’re legit
We demand man ass
Cars nowadays are made such they break down. They break down unlike cars before. They break down like a hoax.
Someone didn’t buy a Toyota!
Lemmy: don’t use AI; pay artists!
Also Lemmy: this uppity bitch should work for exposure.I don’t see what’s wrong with $100-300 I know about five 30 year old women with $5,000 cameras that would jump at the gig as long as it wasn’t a full wedding commitment.
I think it’s more about the gatekeeping.
I wouldn’t call his reply gatekeeping. He’s kind of just promoting a race to the bottom mentality.
Uber: know how to drive, own a car, insurance, use a cell phone to tell you where to make $12, drive from A-B-C-A, and pay 9 of it back to car maintenance over time.
Photographer: Own camera, insurance, lights, lenses, backdrops, computer, software licenses, photodelivery platform costs, know how to use them. Pack up gear into car, drive to shoot, lug all the gear, setup, shoot, position, pose, pack up all the gear, drive back, stow all the gear, transfer images to computer, Lightroom, cull, Photoshop, color/image/wrinkles/clothing fixes, blinks, smirks, stray hairs, put it into a gallery,
The Uber driver spent 30 minutes
The photographer spent 6-8 hours.
If the photographer is gatekeeping you, hire the Uber driver to take your picture for $12.
Just because it’s not an exact comparison doesn’t mean the analogy fails.
Edit: I think there is confusion based on her word choices. I mention it in another comment.
You can have all the hobbies you want. But undercharging for hobby work does fuck over the actual photographers.
Everyone is looking for an amazing hobbiest to shoot their wedding and beating the fuck out of the professionals doing it for a living because they want a couple of grand for a solid week of work.
Seriously, just ask the people attending the wedding to send pictures to you, people would love to help.
My wife has been doing professional work for years, over the past decade or so, drastically more clients browbeat her mercilessly to the point that she has to fire them. What do you mean you need $200 to come to my house and do headshots, it’s only worth $25.
If you have offers for $25 you should take them. Her stuff is really good, they know they don’t want the $25 they’re just not willing to pay a living wage to get it.
I think the bigger issue causing that is cameras on phones have devalued photographs in general. Many people really don’t understand what goes into the good photographs and think it’s as easy as their selfies. And it’s bullshit that people treat your wife that way.
Looks like a Canon?
Canon RF lenses are outrageously priced, even amongst other outrageous ILC brands, because they lock out third parties. So yeah, this lady got ripped off.
Ehh, They’re more expensive, but most of them come with IS.
I’d still rather shoot Nikon.
It’s not the IS that makes them expensive, it’s the locked out ecosystem and the monopoly they have. I’m not saying they’re not good - they are (from what I’ve seen), but healthy competition, if it existed, would’ve driven the prices down a bit.
As for IS itself, since the move to IBIS, it makes sense that some lenses drop the IS and only rely on the body’s. IMO it used to matter in the DSLR days when IBIS was not really a thing. Nowadays it’s sensible to only put it into the longer lenses that physically need it (the longer the lens, the more physical movement required to compensate and so on).
The APS-C lenses are awful. And the FF ones with IS, especially the zooms, have outrageous barrel distortion that crops the sensor a ton… on $2K lenses.
This is the brand new 20-50mm F/4 for instance, and its not even the worst offender. It’s $1400:
The Thypoch 24-50 2.8, for comparison, which is like 1/3 the price on Sony E. This is $650, often less on sale:
I’m speaking as someone who mistakenly bought into Canon APS-C. I loathe it, as a hobbyist with a Canon SLR for years.
I’m selling out, as soon as I see with what Fuji/Panasonic/Sony cook up within the year.
Yes, rf did take a nosedive
How great that there is still EF. I just got myself an r10 since Sony dosent currently have a current aps-c (want that because I throw up from the laggy ones like the 6400 had when I tried it) for around the 600-800€ range.
Also with tamron and others canon also confirmed that they are already licensing third parties.
But if you look at half recent ones like the Canon 70-300 is II USM or even a canon 18-55 is II (or Tamron 17-70 f/2.8, which I currently run, they’re perfectly OK for what I’m using them for at least.
Only 5k? Sound like a hobby, because most professional photographers have a body that is already 5k by itself, plus several lenses ranging between 2 and 20k. I mean, I’m a hobby photographer and my gear already exceeds at least 8k. So stop bitching Karen.
All of your silly little lives are hobbies. Peasants… fuck your wedding hahahaha. Stupid idiots don’t get it. You eventually will. I Quit… Here’s Why the Technician Shortage Is Getting Worse
Nobody is going to watch your youtube video, just type the relevant info.
Thats nearly as obnoxious as dumping AI slop into a discussion.
Uber effectively corner a market and have drivers working for very little.
the prices they charge and the inability to give me the damn RAWs is why I just got a camera instead.
Our wedding photographer gave us both RAWs and processed JPEGs
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Asked mine to give it to me RAW and it turned into a huge misunderstanding.
Ohhhh this pisses me off soooooo much. I decided to do family photos and specifically asked for the raws before I went into the shoot. They still gave me a hard time after the shoot to get the raws. They gave me a stripped down .dng without any camera settings. Ohhhh that pisses me off so much.
I found a guy willing to chuck me RAWs for a lower price, still felt a bit ripped off. He shot 90% of the day on a walkabout zoom and the photos were nothing special.
The audacity to ask for the raw, unprocessed photos for a lower price, and then complain that they look boring.
You wanted the raws. Process them yourself.
Processing won’t do shit to a shitty shot, with terrible composition and lighting.
The audacity to ask for the raw, unprocessed photos for a lower price, and then complain that they look boring.
That has the same energy as going to a restaurant and asking for the raw ingredients.
I mean this comment makes total sense if we pretend that all photos are equally valuable and that the color balance is the only issue but not if we actually address the part where the photographer ostensibly took a bunch of poorly framed candids and failed to capture the energy of the moment
For the price of one shoot, you can buy someone’s lightly used $5,000 kit on ebay. I’ve had a Canon I bought a decade ago that’s still works great. Maybe got it for $250 or so IIRC.
Yeah and that Uber driver can’t afford rent. Photographers often have less business in the winter, too, and they have a ton of extra equipment to lug around. I know a wedding photographer and it’s a lot of work day of and post work to make sure it’s all nice.
Is the weight of the $5000 camera how she got the permanent kink in her neck?
Partially, but it’s the £5000 camera in combination with the additional kit a £5000 camera owner carries around with them, like putting a tripod bag and a spare lenses bag on the same shoulder.
skill isnt bought
My camera cost nowhere near $5000, and I’d gladly take $100-300 per shoot with it. Hell, I’ll even develop the film for you since it ain’t a digital camera.
But are you a professional photographer who makes a living off it?
I could be if enough people paid me for it.
I’ve also taken courses on photography to know how to shoot a good looking photo. It’s also where I learned how to develop film. These classes cost me nothing, I might add.
