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    You had me in the first half

    Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago. Especially when we’re taking about forgetting a river of skeletons caused by a war of territorial expansion.

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      Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago.

      Y’all got some very long, very selective grudges. I feel pretty confident in saying that if the US had been at peace since Vietnam, I’d hate it a hell of lot less.

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        Yo you did the thing.

        You’re here proving the meme. Both are imperialism both are evil.

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          No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards for the next 70 years and counting. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.

          There is absolutely no equivalence whatsoever.

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            One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years

            Is murder and genocide what we call freedom these days?

            Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops

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              Is murder

              Murder? Of slave owners? Yeah, that is often required for freedom. Do slavers really count as human enough for it to count as murder? Self-defense at worst.

              and genocide

              What “genocide” would that be?

              Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops

              Right back at you, I’m not the one defending a slaver theocracy.

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                Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.

                No human being deserves to live under a boot

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                  I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US.

                  The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theorcracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?

                  I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.

                  No human being deserves to live under a boot

                  Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.

                  I don’t care which boot smells better

                  Complete lie, you love it when the boot smells like this:

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                    Hey good news you’re now free. You better stop having your religion, your language, or your culture. Otherwise we will throw you in the skeleton river bone pile. Please say thank you or you guessed it bone pile.

                    Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves? Just a thought, you won’t get it though

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                  I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler.

                  Imagine how they are feeling arguing with you, making up crazy imaginary scenarios in your head and refusing to explain them.

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                    Lmao, I didn’t engage with their nonsense arguements and that prompted them to make up more. It was entertaining to say the least.

                    A better equivalent is arguing with a flat earther. There’s no point since they start with a preconceived notion

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                    Par for the course.

                    I grew up in the South hearing all about the evil big government yankees destroying our culture and way of life (“an entire civilization, Gone With the Wind”), trying to force everybody to obey the central authority in Washington - nevermind how the states treated people, that’s their business, we don’t need big government coming in and “meddling in our affairs.” The labor conditions in the factories up north were pretty bad too, so “both sides.”

                    Take all those arguments, go to the other side of the world, and couch them in leftist terminology like “imperialism” and “colonialism,” and you’ve got liberals with Tibet. Can’t talk sense into them anymore than you can talk sense into a redneck whining about Lost Cause shit. Keep people in chains and call anyone who tries to break those chains an authoritarian, as if the “rights” of states to oppress people matter more than rights of people to be free. It’s literally the exact same playbook.

                    “Tankie” is just how “big government liberal” translates to a different demographic.