- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
You must log in or # to comment.
Why do these screenshots always show the comments in the wrong order? Is twitter really set up like that?
The twitter feed is bottom to top anyway, so the retweet replies are shown that way (regular replies are top to bottom which is why nobody uses them and just quote tweets everything)
Withdraw to your 1967 borders. Then we talk.
What do Israelis want?
It’s to be able to commit genocide in peace.
Americans too apparently.
Nah, it’s overwhelmingly unpopular in America but the Israeli polls are overwhelmingly popular
Not “overwhelmingly” just only about ⅓
The US does also like genocide though
They want to be left alone to commit heinous acts of murder and torture. Is it so hard to understand? /s
I agree with Eylon. No more subsidies, no more outside anything. Thirsty? There’s no water? Talk to your imaginary god. Hungry? Food doesn’t grow? Same thing.
“When I wanna be left alone, I just kill my neighbors. 🤷♂️”
Israel is literally waging a war to expand borders, so yeah, maybe they want to be left alone in the sense that they won’t accept any state other than Israel existing in the end.
It’s … wild because this is part of the roots of the Jewish people being chased from their lands.
In a world where folks accepted other peoples gods but revered their own … the monotheistic Abrahamic religions fucked all that up.
The problem with believing in gods is that you think you are right. That makes other people wrong. And so it begins…
That is one way to see it, but it’s also possible to have a more pluralistic view. Like in India which has a long tradition of many religions co-existing with respect.
You can respect someone and still think they’re wrong. Just like I respect you right now.
But if you truly believe in your religion, then you must believe that other religions aren’t right.
That’s only your view of it, and if it suits you then so be it.
I think the Hindu school of thought is described here, that there is one truth (god), but it has many manifestations (religions)
https://www.sanskritica.com/shlokas/rig-1-164-46-ekam-sat
Then there is the Stoic view of Logos, which is the ”natural order” of the world. It’s a philosophical view, but according to it Logos has a divine source and it’s up to the individual to align with it and accept it. So since Logos contains multiple religions, does it matter which ones are right or wrong, rather how to align yourself with them?
So Hindu believe that the alien worshipping death cult that thinks all Hindu should die is as true as their own religion? That doesn’t seem right.
That’s not true. I believe in gods and I’m n antirealist. I think everything is subjective and we should kill the idea of one objective reality.
Why would you believe anything if you were going to believe you were wrong?
And that’s why you shouldn’t.
Yeah, and that’s why realists who believe in an objective reality are stupid. They won’t admit they’re wrong no matter how much evidence is stacked against them.
I honestly don’t even think I get your position here. Do you somehow not believe that you live in some kind of objective reality together with the rest of us? Do you think this is all just going on in your head? Like… is this some kind of far-out simulation theory thing? Even if we do live in a simulation, that simulation itself must exist in some kind of “real world”.
Please explain
Your perceptions are influenced by your beliefs, and your beliefs are influenced by your culture. So if someone can buy control of our cultural media, they can control reality for the general population. And that’s exactly what they’ve been doing. The owning class have literally constrained our ability to imagine and perceive a fair and just world. For example, they spent centuries silencing queer people, and as a result, most people became literally incapable of perceiving a nonbinary person. When they looked at someone like Me, they would see a man or a woman instead. Their foundational perception was and is distorted.
For a revolution against the owning class to be successful, we need not just to destroy the state apparati of physical control, but also of mental control. We need to destroy the belief in a capitalist cisheteropatriarchal reality. https://soulism.net/
You say that but there’s no real evidence of a mass migration, suggesting the chase never happened. But, considering the Israelites’ goal back then was to annihilate the natives of (what was until 1948) Palestine and take their land because someone said Yahweh said they should… If they were banished they probably had it coming. Just like modern day Israelites have it coming.
K.
Id like anyone who read my comment to not see this comment and think it follows what I’m saying or expands on it.
This dude is standing alone just trying to normalize their hate.
So you dont think israel is wrong for stealing land and killing innocence woman and children?
I’m not gonna circumcise this mosquito with you.
Coward, also very freudian analogy you have used.
Have you ever heard of this social experiment that was done a long time ago.?
A teacher in 1968, following days after MLK was murdered, decided to teach kids about racism. It ended up becoming a famous experiment about how people who are discriminated against will often do the same back to others. And that we are all equally capable of being taught to discriminate even when we ourselves have faced discrimination and know what it’s like.
Here is the premise. (All kids were white, I believe)
The teacher told the students that blue eye color students were smarter than brown eye color students because the pigment in brown eyes was related to lower intelligence.
Here is the rest copied from Wikipedia
"Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[10]
The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. To reflect on the experience, she asked the children to write down what they had learned.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
Here is an in-depth article by PBS on it. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/introduction-2/
Here is a documentary about it , also made by PBS. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCLm_LwpE
It’s a fascinating experiment into human behavior and self reflection. And how superiority complex changes performance and personality.
I was surprised to learn Jane Elliott is still alive. MLK’s assassination really wasn’t as long ago as they want you to believe.
Black slavery really wasn’t that long ago either.
1863
163 years.
That’s roughly only 2 lifetimes ago.
Two.
But yeah segregation was 50 years. People are alive today that weren’t allowed to use the same toilets as whites or share drinking fountains. Restaurants wouldn’t serve them.
Sundown towns. Lynchings.
The latter is still occurring.
Sometimes as Palestine would say, I just want my grandma’s house that the government stole from her and kicked her naked into the street. I miss the good memories.
Most other people have gotten over the house their grandparents were kicked out off. For example the neighboring Israelis.
LOL and of course you are a German. Nazi supporting Nazi i guess. Y’all love to be on the wrong side of history again.
Aw look at you stumbling over an attempted rebuttal. So cute.
So two state solution?
Two Palestines seems like a bit much, but if you insist…
… And murder half of their children as well.
And you just start beating the shit out of your smallest neighbour while occupying their house
First you play really loud music. Then when the neighbor comes over to complain you say they were yelling aggressively (to be heard over the loud music) and you had to defend yourself.
And you call them an anti-musicite.
Or bombing them and then killing the ambulance drivers that come to help them and bulldoze then into a ditch
Why won’t somebody think about the poor land-thieving child-murdering Israelis…
stay there
after they locked the doors, killed you dog and wife, tortured your brother and starved you children while withholding them medical aid
If the neighbors are preparing to kill me next week, maybe this is a possibility if i can’t or don’t want to go anywhere else…
What they want is no resistance to their colonial expansion.
