Japan is not technically correct. One is required to have healthcare coverage, but some people skirt the law and don’t. We also pay at point of service, pay for prescriptions, etc. This is on top of paying for insurance (though your company may offer insurance that it pays some/all of). There are tax procedures once medical out-of-pocket reaches 100k JPY in a year and a way to reduce/eliminate further cost.
How is it in North Korea? Like seriously. I start to believe even they have a better health care system
I believe there’s a documentary out there from years back; journalists got an invite in and snuck cameras. The hospitals used old beer bottles for IV.
Edit: was it this? https://youtu.be/eLCdsXRiouE
Edit 2: https://youtu.be/GLdqtwWOD9E @2:30
So still better than the US, that’s what I am saying.
Jokes aside, if the beer bottles work, why not. Can be sterilized easily. And still better than no IV.
You’re probably right that beer bottles can work. But the fact that they have to use beer bottles probably indicates that they can’t afford the necessary materials to ensure these things are properly sterilized in the first place. Because, if they could, they’d probably be using sterilized bags.
I agree it’s still better than no IV, though. You gotta do what you gotta do.
That’s the wild part. The people help each other even though they get starved by the government. Almost similar to the US, with the exception that a MAGA would rather die than get treatment of a Biden supporter.
Can confirm.
We subsidize Israel’s government through military. The money they save helps pay for them to have socialized healthcare.
That needs to be the message.
they get alot more aid from us than just military.
loads and loads of tax breaks/special exceptions to make doing business with them more lucrative than anywhere else.
special exceptions that make it incredibly easy for them to tap into the wild west that is US financial markets etc.
Even their culture is an inferior knock-off of ours.
Alright buddy, you better watch yourself now because you’re flying waaayy too close to the brown sun.
Bro seeing Israel when they’re not even in the post lol
Post was about a lot of countries. I singled out Israel because we pay for a lot of their shit while telling ourselves we can’t afford the same shit.
Why is that a problem for you?
We subsidize their military but can’t pay for our own? Interesting. But also you just come off as obsessive and, well, you know.
I said one thing and I’m “obsessive”?
That’s fucking stupid.
That should not be the message. Socialized health care is cheaper by far than the premium-on-health model that you’re using in the United States.
It’s the same argument that Republicans have been using to extract concessions from Canada and Europe: “look at these freeloaders, they won’t pay their fair share for defense (read: they don’t buy enough American weapons) and they use the money for socialized health care, we ought to teach them a lesson.”
The truth is that defense or foreign aid isn’t in the same league as health care. You’re giving Israel about 7 billion a year, and don’t get me wrong - that’s a lot and you should stop it. But you’re spending 5.3 trillion on health care. Meanwhile, the record-setting defense budget for 2026 is 718 billion - and interestingly the vast majority of that budget is actually socialized health care! It’s 441 billion going to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
With socialized health care, you could pay a lot less. And I hope you’d use the money for literally anything other than war.
I see more of the world watching in horror than I see laughing.
Plenty are laughing and cheering at all the suffering because we “deserve it”
You see it plenty in comments here on lemmy.
I am sorry to hear you think everybody abroad enjoys your suffering, but I think you are getting the wrong impression from lemmy (which does not represent the average people). I admit that it’s often hard to feel sympathetic towards someone who voted for what’s coming to them, because believing in karma feels good. But I do also feel pity for all the people that are struggling economically or are getting deported without fault.
If you meet normal (=not from lemmy) people abroad you will find that most will want a very hardline stance against the US as a country, wishing to punish the US administration even more for all the wars and hostile behavior, while also be very welcoming to any US person that want to escape that hell.
I wish you the best in changing the system there, but unfortunately I fear there’s at least 2 more years (likely more) of things becoming worse and worse ahead of us.
PS: upvoted because I think you are not alone in your feeling, and it’s something worth discussing.
I think about a third of the US does not actively deserve it. The rest is either actively fucking with lives in other countries or accept it as either inevitable or as “cost of doing business”, with no intention to change anything. Did you know there is a national census about the percentage of people in the US who can get rekt in my view and the view of many others? It’s called “presidential elections”.
because we “deserve it”
As an American myself … yes, we (collectively) deserve it. A lot of the people suffering from this are exactly the same people who voted against fixing it in every fucking election.
Political reform is tough, no doubt but it can be done and has been elsewhere. Also no better time than the present while the worst problems are so clearly visible.
27 million with no coverage, the rest with extremely poor coverage.
also theres a “limbo” in between medicaid and decent insurance, too much income for eligible medicaid insurance and not enough for decent insurance(enough where you do pay out the behind for emergencies, surgeries and hospitals, the largest cost)
What? Paying a mortgage payment monthly for the privilege of having a $10,000 deductible isn’t good enough?
I am amazed it’s only 27 million. If they could, they would charge all 340 million Americans and all immigrants yet to nationalize, and give no service at all. Which is their obvious aim. Charge for being alive.
Not laughing. Crying
I mean, this is inaccurate, at least for Germany. Although health insurance is technically mandatory in Germany, there are over 50k citizens that are uninsured, not 0
Interesting. How are they uninsured? If they go to get care are they turned away or have to pay more?
It happens if people don’t pay their health insurance for more than 3 months in a row, and yes, they will get turned away by doctors unless they are willing to pay their entire treatment cost out of pocket.
As far as I understand it nost of these people are jobless, not on welfare and can’t pay the amount of money the insurence wants them to pay. Oh and also above 25 years old or without parenta as otherwise you could get insurance over them.
I know this is a tough pill for americans to swallow. But lots of countries does not allow trans-athletes to compete in the women’s class.
The international organisation for track and field, and also the IOK have already said that transathletes are not allowed to compete with women (for now).
Though I absolutely agree that US politicians are experts at exaggerating and trying to blow the smallest issue out of proportion for headlines.
And it’s sad the American people are too uneducated to see through the charade.
I would laugh at the US, if it wasnt for the fact that people’s lives are ruined forever on a daily basis.
These aren’t any republicans, these are the rich ones with not enough imagination to think of anything but other people’s sexual preferences.
As a Canadian, I do want to point out that it’s not enough to be above the united states, considering how their bar is dropping lower and lower.
I am very thankful for our existing healthcare system, and I want to see people protect it against the american inspired groups that are trying to privatize parts of it.
There are also areas where we were originally SUPPOSED to have coverage based on the original plan decades ago (ex. pharmaceuticals, homecare, dental), but those phases never got implemented.
As an also-Canadian I’ll chime in here to say that there are definitely people in this country without health insurance coverage. If you’re here as a non-resident, you typically don’t have government insurance and are subject to out-of-pocket billing. I believe there are about half a million people in Ontario in this situation, not sure about other provinces.
I know the OP was supposed to be rhetorical, and I agree that the American healthcare is an embarrassment — but the reality of healthcare administration is complicated, and I’m not sure dumbing it down like this is all that helpful.
Republicans for the most part don’t care what anyone else thinks of them. They are full of the certain knowledge that they are the center of the universe and nothing outside that rotting circle matters.
There’s only one shithole on this list
UK, Germany, Canada and France have high homelessness rates. Partly because disability pay is low and healthcare costs are minimally made up for. Those in ill health may not be able to find work and land on the streets. These countries do nothing substantial like building housing and implementing pro-tenant reforms to stop it. This is not to say that healthcare is bad, I think healthcare must be socialised like postal services and the fire brigade, but it’s not at all straight forward.
So those are like pissholes?
And how many millions more Americans effectively have no access due to poverty and high copays?
about 15+million and many more or underinsured. dental care is another problem too(only recently like in the last 7ish years they started covering for basic dental surgeries and partialy for major work(like root canals) and only for select dentists that actually accept medical, most dont.
Even if you have health and dental insurance, actually getting coverage can be a nightmare in some scenarios.
Tooth infection spreading into the jaw? Health insurance says it’s a dental issue, denied. Dental insurance says it’s a medical issue, denied. Both of them refuse to talk directly to each other – they will only communicate with you, asking you to pass messages to the other one, which the other one will ignore. Every time you try to contact either one, you need to be prepared to spend at least two hours on the phone, most of it waiting on hold.
