The families of US soldiers who have died in the US-Israeli war against Iran are battling to ensure they receive appropriate pay and benefits for their loved ones.
Libby Klinner, a widow, wrote on social media that the US air force had deemed her ineligible for additional benefits following the death of Major Alex Klinner, her 33-year-old husband, because Congress had not officially declared war.
He was one of six crew members of a KC-135 refuelling aircraft that crashed in western Iraq in March while supporting US strikes against Iran.
Stupid loopholes
Congress can basically make “non wars” into wars for benefits.
OEF and OIF cover post 9/11 up to like 2010 in most of the middle east.
It could be fixed right now, but trump and the Republicans won’t.
But the real solution has always been giving everyone the benefits disabled vets get
Congress could do a lot of things that they are refusing ro do.
Because Republicans have both majorities and the presidency…
Our system sucks, but it used to be functional, and can be again.
Obviously one of the first things to do once it’s functional, is improve the system and put in protections to stop this from happening again.
Like, everyone complains about the electoral college, but we could just get rid of it and make the presidency a straight popular vote. But the real problem, is a president was never meant to have this much power in the first place. They’re supposed to be an essentially powerless ambassador.
No real power, just the person we said can speak on our behalf in situations where there’s just a single seat at a table for America
one of the first things to do once it’s functional, is improve the system and put in protections to stop this from happening again.
Agreed, that will be critical in trying to regain any level of trust from the rest of the world.
the real problem, is a president was never meant to have this much power in the first place.
Again, you have identified another of the issues that needs fixing.
Between fixing those issues and repairing all the damage Trump (and his acomplices) have done, the USA has decades of work to do.
I hope they are both willing and able to put in the effort.
Between fixing those issues and repairing all the damage Trump (and his acomplices) have done, the USA has decades of work to do.
If you think that, you need to look back on how fast FDR fixed shit, and how the only thing that stopped him from doing more, is people not following up by flushing incumbents holding back progress.
Back then the average person didn’t have the same outreach. Social media means people can actually organize and hear how things are going. That’s why oligarchs keep gobbling up social media and flooding it with bots.
They’re fucking scared.
Remind me in 6 years.
Based on the level of apathy I see from a majority of Americans, I don’t expect much more than surface level changes (re-naming things back to their original names, de-trumping the white house decore etc) and little else.
I also don’t trust that the Americans won’t just elect another complete asshole 4 years after Trump is no longer president.
Then you don’t understand how bad the party was under neoliberalism from 1991-2025, and you just assume that was actually trying or that the party went in a different direction with the 2025 chair election.
Like, if you ignore everything, obviously it’s not going to make sense.
If you pay attention to what happened and what is happening, you wouldn’t spend your free time shitting on the best and only chance to save the country…
Unless you were a trump supporter or neoliberal despite to depress dem turnout to stop progressives
despite to depress dem turnout to stop progressives
I assume that was supposed to be “desperate”.
That aside, I would much prefer the Americans elect a Democrat over a Republican, but I also would prefer the democrats put forward more progressive candidates than they have been.
they don’t even have the money for payroll right now.
So no, they really can’t fix it overnight.
But we can build ballrooms and arches and multiple attempts at a blue pool. Odd.
Because the other person is wrong. The US budget is basically a guideline and any excess gets carried to the next year.
Trump’s ego is more important than anything.
Lol please. This president has proven he can do basically whatever he wants with allocated funds and neither Congress or scotus will stop him.
and they’ll still vote for pedo-in-chief
The pedo-in-chief who kept calling it a war
And claim they “support the troops” all the same.
They’re not troops anymore once they stop trooping. Then they’re “losers.” https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
They support troops, just not soldiers.
And most definitely not veterans.
Someone make Patrick’s wallet meme of this please.
So are they going to rename the Department of Defense again?!
I can’t fucking believe this. Well, i can because 🍊☝️
First time I’ve seen that emoji used for “fuckhead”.
… That might be the excuse they’re using.
The reality is that they don’t have the money because they spent it on bombing schools for young girls.
fuckers need to fuck right off to the fuckerville composting center.
Must be why they want to pump even more tax payer money into the un-auditable pentagon.
Ha, just kidding, we’ll hand it out to cronies and make up some story because fuck those corpses’ families
The reality is that they don’t have the money because they spent it on bombing schools for young girls.
It’s tax payers money, they have plenty of these, they just use money for things that are directly useful to them
I think you are on point here.
If it’s not officially a war, what happens if a combatant chooses not to engage?
I suspect they’d be court martialled as if it were refusing a wartime order.
rules for thee and not for me…
Duh!
They probably won’t get paid which is the main reason they are there to begin with.
It’s a really stupid idea to upset the military while they’re on active duty. Well, America might get their first military uprising.
When they try to steal the midterms, please.
Well, America might get their first military uprising.
They’re re-elected Trump. There won’t be a military uprising.
They’re the best country in the world, didn’t you know?
So they are eating slightly more healthy than someone eating boot soles as only meal of the day, they are being deployed for months without rest and they are dying in combat (or combat-related operations) BUT they are not at war so them and their families can’t get benefits from it BUT ALSO they can’t return home because they not at war but they are at war at the same time (which is not a war because the Congress didn’t say so).
Are you trying to piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you? Because this is how you piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you.
make the people with weapons turn against you?
LOL that’d be the day.
You need critical thinking for that.Are you trying to piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you? Because this is how you piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you.
They’re gambling that the American people, including the soldiers, are too atomised and too docile. Just like unions in other exploitative industries are becoming increasingly rare. I think they’re probably correct, they ain’t gonna do shit but accept it. You’ve gotta be constitutionally a bootlicker to join the military anyway. Those people don’t have it in them to stand up for themselves unless it’s “against” their wife and kids. Maybe you’ll get an occasional guy losing it and shooting up his colleagues, the traditional way to do it.
Oh I have seen this one before!
What do you mean you’ve seen this? it’s brand new.
Lie down with dogs, madam…
Deserved.
Ah yes. My withdrawal of money from the corner store isn’t robbery. 🙄
As in all other things, they want all of the benefits and none of the responsibilities.
