• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Saudi Arabia is evil, but perhaps this is the only way to teach Americans the error of their ways

    They will betray us

  • BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
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    21 days ago

    We’re putting AMERICA First by giving the ARCHITECTS OF 9/11 CONTROL OF OUR NEWS!

    -LITERALLY Republicans!

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      21 days ago

      On the one hand we could imagine them clamping down on riske material and promote islamicism, but to be real having lived in the gulf for many years they care more about money than anything else. So prepare for more neoliberal enshittification.

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        21 days ago

        With a hefty dose of Israel support because if they went against Israel, 1, the US wouls get angry and 2, people would start questioning why the big rich Muslim countries aren’t doing anything to help their brothers and sisters in Gaza.

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          21 days ago

          This particular topic has little to do with Israel to be real. Even as an anti-zionist i am not sure why you slipped this in.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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            21 days ago

            Saudi Arabia and UAE are tight with Israel (because they get US military support for backing it), so it’s not unlikely that Israel would get some windfall out of this, though the other person has the cause all wrong and in any case I doubt either country is much more pro-Israel than US establishment media.

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        21 days ago

        Saudi Arabia and UAE are absolutely not going to be promoting Islamism (Qatar is more complicated). Islamists are the biggest enemies of entrenched authoritarian regimes in most of the Middle East, so even ones with a veneer of religion are trying hard to gain legitimacy as secular nationalist dictators. For example remember that one story about the UAE being like "Britain harbors dangerous islamists? The translation here is “this foreign liberal democracy is harboring enemies of my authoritarian regime.” If anything both of them (but probably not (Qatar) are already pushing for more bellicose US policy in the Middle East, because they’re vassal regimed whose survival depends on the continued interest of their imperial masters.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        20 days ago

        the Middle east countries have been desperately trying to diversifying , because they know oil and gas will dry up a few decades. and they have spent alot of money recently sportwashing themselves.

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      21 days ago

      I suggested boycotting them in a previous topic and got replied “whoa you want us to stop watching movies and tv??”

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      20 days ago

      i suspect alot are keeping it because nutrek, if one is a true trekkie in the roddenberry days, you cannot support someone like ellison whos would be anti-trek villian.

      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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        20 days ago

        Just sending plausible invoices to large corporations works waaaaaay more often than you’d think. The only downside is that the penalties are severe if you’re caught. Have an exit strategy.

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        20 days ago

        They dislike everyone but their own, but they still get hard-ons for billionaires.

    • Master167@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Because there’s money to be made by looking the other way. The “revolving door” is open to high level government bureaucrats and they want their payday after their “public service”

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    21 days ago

    Where is reuters on this? This is right up their alley, I have to think the omission is on purpose as this is news.

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        21 days ago

        Team Bonesaws is definitely worse than the Ellisons, but they’re both in the Blight Against Humanity Hall of Fame.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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          21 days ago

          The reporting you did last week on us was kind of poor, we require you to update your passport and come visit us so we can discuss it all in person…

  • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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    20 days ago

    This has been going on for awhile. I’ve said it a few times. Saudi Arabia has been quietly buying up a ton of companies along with various Trump allies and sometimes outrighting funding those Trump ally companies.

    They invest in many Trump related companies as well as partnering with Russia’s Soverign Weath Fund.

    Everyone is so worried about China, they are letting Saudia Arabia buy up everything behind the scenes.

    I would trust a government that kills reporters, hangs out with Epstein, or likely helped fund 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    There’s a list of PIF investments in Wikipedia. PIF

    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      Who bailed Elon out and helped him buy Twitter? Who do you think Trump was selling those fucking cases full of classified Intel to? It’s so sad watching this all play out with nothing to do about it.

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      20 days ago

      It is honestly pretty funny that they are currently incapable at protecting themselves even with top of the line equipment. They’ve also spent way too much money on completely useless megaprojects, failed to buy up large swaths of Arizona land for alfalfa, and haven’t built any large internal industries to transition them away from their status as a petrostate aside from a few luxury electric car manufacturing plants.

      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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        19 days ago

        Recommend Arabs at War: Military Effectiveness, 1948-1991 (Studies in War, Society, and the Military) by Pollack

        There are many reasons; one of them is that Arab forces often lie to their commanders so that they have very poor situational awareness, leading to a cascade of further poor decisions in war.

        This is because you can and will be executed for failure.

        Unfortunately, you can also be executed for being too competent, which can be seen as threatening to your superiors.

        Also, maintenance. And sand. I hate sand.

        There are many other factors and exceptions, depending on when and where.

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        20 days ago

        and thier influence on trump is very limited compared to israel, and russia. they though they were getting a deal, but they dont seem to directly interact with politics, such as funding the actual campaigns or superpacs.

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          19 days ago

          I disagree, please look at Trump’s son in law Kushner’s business dealings in Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere in middle east). The many billions of dollars are “officially” in his private equity firm (and accompanying shell companies).

          Russian oligarchs are small change and have nothing near as much influence (due to less money)

          Saudi Arabia can’t beat Israel for influence, but you know, we formed Israel and they’re like our colony/military base in the middle east; so I don’t think any nation can match that influence, we’re connected as allies, Israel could not exist without the USA.

          I am not saying that Trump doesn’t accept money from Russia or anybody else, though, and exert influence for them. He’ll take money from everywhere and make “deals” with anyone who has billions of dollars.

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    20 days ago

    Isn’t there a contradiction between the Zionist interest behind the purchase of CBS and say Qatar? I know UAE and Saudi were in bed with Israel before the war but not so sure about today.

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      19 days ago

      American policy usually works like that, but Trump is for the most part a different breed. He’s concerned with self-enrichment first, ideology a distant third.