It is very much ongoing.
Also, not being taught that the civil war and slavery and all that shit was fucking EVIL
Edit: I grew up in the south
It is mind boggling to me that someone, in the 21st century can say: “oh yeah, owning human beings like property, that’s a-ok!”
I’m an older millennial- in the 90s they were legit telling us “some slaves had it really good”
We watched Roots in the classroom, but only the episode where LaVar Burton gets brutalized by a whip for refusing to say his name was Toby.
We also got a foot note about John Brown, I had no idea he was a white guy and one of the coolest motherfuckers to walk this earth until I was an adult.
Not being taught about the Golden Age is another one.
Ironically we did spend a lot of time on that (I went to school in the eighties) and a lot of folks knew Reagan had really done us dirty. It was probably above my head.
Also, I went to a really good school.
Reagan had really done us dirty
He definitely kicked the county while it was down. But a big part of the US Golden Age was being the last economy standing after WW2.
The end of America’s economic dominance was inevitable, as old colonial powers re-industrialized and newly liberated post-colonial states gained control of their natural resources for domestic use.
By Nixon, American global dominance was sunsetting regardless of our domestic policies. That’s why we gave up the gold standard and adopted the Petrodollar as a globalized economic strategy. We couldn’t just import everyone else’s gold and sell it back to them at a premium anymore.
I realized as I got older how much of our history, the parts they have to acknowledge, are treated like they’re a singular moment in the past, resolved, and somehow could never resurface in a different form.
The push to frame the Civil Rights or Women’s Suffrage movements as the “correct” form of how American citizens call out inequality is also sanitized to the point it becomes toothless. We’re given a version where people just gather, speak out, sometimes get beaten to a pulp/jailed/killed but so long as they remain non-violent, eventually society will feel bad and someone with the power to change things will do so.
There are times where large scale protests are beneficial because it rallies and shows the scale of opposition. Sometimes witnessing the violence of the oppressors against peaceful people shocks and horrifies. But we’re at a point where watching cops, ICE, and Proud Boys brutalize others is fetish porn for MAGAts, and mass gatherings for the sake of showing up but not networking and continuing the movement during the weeks in-between is futile. They have no reason to see us as a threat if all we do is show up for a few hours one weekend every six weeks and hold signs.
And to my fellow dissatisfied leftists, if your aversion to anything more direct is rooted in the idea that previous protests were successful because they stayed “peaceful” and took their lumps, you’re protesting the way the machine wants you to. Just enough liberty to feel like you’re standing up to oppression but not doing anything that actually challenges the oppressor.
The Republicans are keeping people exhausted and scared enough to intimidate them out of organising.
Born around 2000 here: My high-school history class got to 1945 and that was the end.
Born around 1985 here and…same.
I think the biggest disservice regarding the Civil Rights era is talking up MLK every year…and not once mentioning Malcom X or the Black Panthers.
MLK would have accomplished nothing if the alternative wasn’t them.
It paints the picture that hippies and marches are all that’s needed. It’s not. The oppressors need to feel unsafe.
Malcolm X wasn’t the violent revolutionary that teenage edgelords have made him out to be.
Fuck, if anything, MLK was more radical because he advocated breaking the law. Malcolm X didn’t. He just believed in self-defense.
People denigrating the legacy and accomplishments of MLK are fucking sickening.
Yeah, it’s interesting that the curriculum starts by portraying the American revolution as a just and righteous war, with ragtag bands of freedom fighters going up against a brutal and overwhelmingly powerful oppressor… And then as soon as the revolution is concluded, the messaging takes a hard turn to “but also violence is never okay and peaceful protest is the only acceptable way to instigate change!”
In the chapters about the civil rights era, Malcom X and the Black Panthers were barely mentioned in a footnote. And only really as a “oh also not all people were peaceful, and that violence only hurt the protestors’ message” warning.
And the sad part is that the propaganda works. Every time some politically-charged violence happens, you inevitably have people in the comments chanting about how violence is never the answer, and peaceful protest is the only acceptable way to change things.
Oh they do. Thats why “antifa” is a “terror org” now lmao
I remember in high school social studies, civil rights essentially “concluded” with the death of civil rights leaders. I had a great teacher who tried to include queer rights until the lesson and I am so grateful to her for helping us understand that civil rights includes the the disabled community
The only thing I am glad my US Public School education gave me were a few history teachers who directly talked about politics, activism, and repeatedly getting arrested for protesting the School of the Americas.
isnt there a rule against politics in this community? It even lists a different community you could post in instead
Get lost. This is relevant.
The public school system was sort of ultimately designed to make good little obedient factory line workers. Not a surprise at all, they want you to think it’s a thing of the past and get complacent. How do you think we got where we are today?
You were also likely taught that the genocide of indigenous Americans was a past event, too.
I have met people who did not realize that indigenous Americans still exist.
It certainly was shocking to find an active ongoing eugenics program was still active in the 1970’s.
The reality of people existing in active oppression by the US government is absolutely not the impression that I got.
I’m pretty sure Indigenous women are still being sterilized without their knowledge or consent during births or other medical procedures in parts of the US and Canada.
Have any examples?
Just Google “forced sterilization of indigenous women” https://apnews.com/article/canada-indigenous-women-sterilization-apology-reparations-ebcacc0f27b8d4c12d8690718202531d
Clearly still happening recently in Canada, how about the US?
Y𝖾s, including in the Unit𝖾d Stat𝖾s. Quick s𝖾arch𝖾s pull up many r𝖾sults, both on indig𝖾nous p𝖾opl𝖾s and on many oth𝖾rs including migrants in ICE d𝖾t𝖾ntion.
Example 1 - Indigenous Peoples Here’s a link that claims “From 1907 until as recently as 2018, tens of thousands of Native women underwent tubal ligation”: [Link](https://nativenewsonline.net/health/stolen-generations-new-mexico-takes-historic-step-to-address-forced-sterilization-of-native-american-women/)
Example 2 - Migrants Here’s a summary link of prior/current cases. “On September 14, 2020, nurse Dawn Wooten filed a whistleblower complaint . . . Wooten said that nearly every [detained migrant] woman who went to see a doctor was told she had to undergo a hysterectomy.”: [Link](https://www.niwrc.org/restoration-magazine/november-2020/past-and-current-united-states-policies-forced-sterilization)
More summaries with sources cited. Some were court & judge approved coercion. “As recently as May 2017, Tennessee Judge Sam Benningfield signed an order that offered misdemeanor offenders 30-day sentence reductions if they underwent either a vasectomy or a birth control implant [16].” “Between 2005 and 2013, 144 women were coerced into sterilization in California [19].” [Link](https://www.texasulj.org/post/three-generations-of-imbeciles-past-and-present-coercive-sterilization-in-the-u-s)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/27/canada-indigenous-women-sterilisation-lawsuit closest I find find in 5 minutes
Another quick search https://www.nccih.ca/docs/child and youth/FS-Forced-sterilization-EN-Web.pdf
They didn’t even mention Black Panthers… meanwhile, BP should get more credit than MLK and Malcolm X together.
They weren’t “peaceful protestors”, so not even brought up.
That was a long ago, has anyone here been taught differently? My school was shit (obviously)
I was homeschooled for the first decade of my life. Specifically, I visited the city’s library and took back books to my rural homestead. Larry Gonick made a long running series of history books, and the United States entry certainly mentions the unsavory aspects of America.
Larry Gonick drew heavily from A People’s History of The United States, to his credit. I gave these to all the kids in the family.
If you haven’t read The Cartoon History of The Universe, I cannot recommend it enough.
Got the whole series, plus some other ones about other topics, like chemistry and sex. About the only downside of Gonick’s work, is that the older volumes are a bit dated - the archaeology and whatnot starts from about the 80’s or thereabouts.
Wish I was a billionaire, so that I could commission remakes and an animated series for all to freely partake in.
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Speaking of comics, there are assorted manga that tackle the sciences or historical eras. For example, ‘The Manga Guide to the Universe’, which covers stellar phenomena, how to calculate distances, and so forth. Bride’s Story is a slice of life about a steppe people - roughly in Mongolia, I think. Practices for marriage, how to bleed out an animal, and more are presented. Meanwhile, ‘Spice and Wolf’ is about mercantile economics for Medieval Europe, such as currency debasing.
Manga is very good for pairing a slice-of-life narrative alongside education.
heh yeah - his Cartoon Guide to the Computer actually has one of the best explanations of how basic circuts are translated into boolean logic of ANY source out there, still.
I loved these books so much when I was a kid!
Definitely read the book This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed.
Non-violence by the SCPP is now treated as not only their only tactic, but the only valid tactic ever. But that’s historically just not true. Even Dr. King and others realized that their tactic of non-violence was working with other groups who were not pledged to non-violence - and in the setting where the US was worried about its image versus the USSR in the third world. Nor was it the primary driver of what limited success the movement had.
The older you get, the more bullshit will be revealed
That’s why they always showed photos in black and white. It wouldn’t do to remind people that this was very recent, historically speaking.
Well it is.
They are called boomers now and blamed for everything despite of the things they did.While the movement is piece of the past, I would argue that the fight for equal rights continues to this day.
What you said thought doesn’t add up to my knowledge though — Civil Rights was fought for roughly from 1950-1960s. The Civil Rights Act was signed in 1964 when Boomers were turning 18 and the last year of their generation. This would mean that the people in the streets protesting and/or voting weren’t boomers but the silent generation and their parents.
That is indeed your limited knowledge.
If you want to cherrypick one thing (1964).
There was still a lot to do and done after that.
Vietnam after that for one.
Black Panters didn’t even exist.Also, ‘the fight for equal rights continues to this day’
It should but it doesn’t really.
A lot of complaining and embarrassingly weak and lame stuff.
Looks like the regime won and the population has been pacified.If you’re going to troll from overseas you aught to work on your English a bit. I’d suggest reading up on your American history too but it’s pretty clear that’s not super important to whatever message it is you think you’re sending.
If you’re going to troll from overseas you aught to work on your English a bit
That is typical level of petty I expect from a butthurt american.
My English is fine, especially compared to the embarrassing literacy level of that banana republic.
So you can quit being pretentious.
And writing facts is not trolling.
Instead of your baseless accusations you might have offered some yourself.
I probably know more than americans about their own awful history, which they don’t learn about in their backward and propagandized schools.
So do you have anything of substance to add or is pathetic slander all you have?My English is fine,
So you’re saying you sound like a crazy person without a single coherent thought because you intend to sound crazy and incoherent?
you’re dumb, boring and annoying, nothing will be lost by blocking you.
go fuck yourself americunt peasant
But the boomers to this day continue to vote for corrupt governments and fall for such blatant government lies and deception
25 -29 only had a 10% difference for Copmala.
Everyone older was equal or pro Orange.
But if it makes you feel better about your ageism towards a generation that actually fought for something while current generations are an embarrassment, go ahead.
I don’t live in the US shithole so IDC.
In fact, if they’re dumb enough to fall for divide and conquer tricks and not direct their anger at the guilty ones you deserve what you get and I’m glad that cancer country is going to shit…“copmala” is not catchy at all, you should drop that from your vocabulary
“Skamala” maybe.
No thanks, it’s not about being catchy.
I suppose it implies scamming: an illegal way of making money, usually by tricking people?
That would be most politicians.
And it’s much too innocent.
Copmala refers to her awful history, It may get some ignorant and oblivious americans to look up what that name is about.
I guess there’s some truth to that. No point fighting amongst each other while the real enemy gets away with it
When my school was hit by a natural disaster, I had the opportunity to switch from a premier Catholic school to a premier public school for two semesters.
…let me tell, the biggest disservice that you received was a systematic lowering of academic standards. The difference was night and day. There is no way that that curriculum was preparing students for college.
Since there is a limited window in which brain plasticity is at its peak, catching up at university isn’t an option. Public school students are at a permanent disadvantage; it’s an equal opportunity problem.
Since there is a limited window in which brain plasticity is at its peak, catching up at university isn’t an option.
I call bullshit. It may be true that there is a peak, but it’s not like after that peak it’s hopeless… I’m 50 years old and I work a job where I literally have to learn an ever changing product in order to support it, and I’m doing fine, I just got promoted to senior so I’m teaching the new hires. I haven’t even been there 5 years yet.
With sufficiently motivated people, it can happen. I tutored people in a small community college for a semester. It was the most rewarding job I’ve ever had.
Honestly it was mostly single moms that never understood algebra in high school but needed to pass their nursing degree requirements. When it clicked, and the light shone in their eyes, it felt like a personal success. I wish it paid better because I’d love to do it forever
