• BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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    When my school was hit by a natural disaster, I had the opportunity to switch from a premier Catholic school to a premier public school for two semesters.

    …let me tell, the biggest disservice that you received was a systematic lowering of academic standards. The difference was night and day. There is no way that that curriculum was preparing students for college.

    Since there is a limited window in which brain plasticity is at its peak, catching up at university isn’t an option. Public school students are at a permanent disadvantage; it’s an equal opportunity problem.

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      With sufficiently motivated people, it can happen. I tutored people in a small community college for a semester. It was the most rewarding job I’ve ever had.

      Honestly it was mostly single moms that never understood algebra in high school but needed to pass their nursing degree requirements. When it clicked, and the light shone in their eyes, it felt like a personal success. I wish it paid better because I’d love to do it forever

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      Since there is a limited window in which brain plasticity is at its peak, catching up at university isn’t an option.

      I call bullshit. It may be true that there is a peak, but it’s not like after that peak it’s hopeless… I’m 50 years old and I work a job where I literally have to learn an ever changing product in order to support it, and I’m doing fine, I just got promoted to senior so I’m teaching the new hires. I haven’t even been there 5 years yet.

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    The teaching of history in US public schools very specifically focuses on peaceful protest and little else.

    They want to delegitimize the use of force and downplay state violence, which is why you probably weren’t required to read ‘Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee’ or taught about the Tulsa Massacre or the Battle of Blair Mountain. It’s why Malcolm X and Nat Turner are mostly ignored while all you hear about in your black history segments is MLK and Harriet Tubman. It’s why we’re taught about the euphemistically-named ‘Reservation’ system, when in fact, these were shitty, oppressive concentration camps for indigenous people and they were required to go there or be killed while their ancestral lands were stolen. (Which is not too dissimilar from what’s happening in Gaza right now with the support of both American ruling parties.)

    In hindsight, it’s rather shocking to me that in my fifth grade class we were taught about conquistadors and no one batted an eye when I had dead bodies in my diorama about Francisco Pizarro. There’s probably no way that would fly today.

    I’m still learning shit in my 40’s, reading history for my own enjoyment, that I should have been taught in school. Here’s another tidbit you probably never learned about: An executed slave named Mark whose body was used as a landmark after his execution, even by Paul Revere: https://www.paulreverehouse.org/mark-hung-in-chains-slavery-paul-reveres-midnight-ride/

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      Also, if anyone reads my comment above and has suggestions for books or articles or tidbits that could benefit from reading, I’d love to hear them.

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    Checks and balances in the federal government is my biggest disappointment. They aren’t working.

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    For me, it was that protesting was only ever discussed as peaceful, civil activity, as was a way of communicating demands outside of the voting cycle.

    Unionization and workers rights were never discussed. I didn’t learn about unions as a concept until nearly graduation when my first job had so much required training about how dangerous they were, and of course I assumed they were full of it and did my own investigation.

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        Oh yes! This actually happened to me multiple times. Typically it was something about how unions result in lower pay or would not represent my interests.

        Of course that’s all BS! You only have to use your brain a little. For example, even if they’re not perfect representatives, who else then is going to represent you? Yourself? You don’t stand a chance against a large business.

        The costs of union fees was a sticking point, and it’s easy to waive that in front of somebody’s face when it’s harder to measure the impact of your union fighting for fair pay and blocking exploitation. The counter argument is that not all benefits are easily quantifiable. Negotiated raises are just part of the total compensation, and the stated pay numbers you’d get without unions in the world are made up because you can claim whatever you want about something that is not the case.

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      It always bugs me a little when Labor Day rolls around and people just kind of ignore how workers’ rights were literally fought and died for, but as you said, they don’t teach us about Blair Mountain or Haymarket Square on purpose.

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    I realized as I got older how much of our history, the parts they have to acknowledge, are treated like they’re a singular moment in the past, resolved, and somehow could never resurface in a different form.

    The push to frame the Civil Rights or Women’s Suffrage movements as the “correct” form of how American citizens call out inequality is also sanitized to the point it becomes toothless. We’re given a version where people just gather, speak out, sometimes get beaten to a pulp/jailed/killed but so long as they remain non-violent, eventually society will feel bad and someone with the power to change things will do so.

    There are times where large scale protests are beneficial because it rallies and shows the scale of opposition. Sometimes witnessing the violence of the oppressors against peaceful people shocks and horrifies. But we’re at a point where watching cops, ICE, and Proud Boys brutalize others is fetish porn for MAGAts, and mass gatherings for the sake of showing up but not networking and continuing the movement during the weeks in-between is futile. They have no reason to see us as a threat if all we do is show up for a few hours one weekend every six weeks and hold signs.

    And to my fellow dissatisfied leftists, if your aversion to anything more direct is rooted in the idea that previous protests were successful because they stayed “peaceful” and took their lumps, you’re protesting the way the machine wants you to. Just enough liberty to feel like you’re standing up to oppression but not doing anything that actually challenges the oppressor.

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      Born around 1985 here and…same.

      I think the biggest disservice regarding the Civil Rights era is talking up MLK every year…and not once mentioning Malcom X or the Black Panthers.

      MLK would have accomplished nothing if the alternative wasn’t them.

      It paints the picture that hippies and marches are all that’s needed. It’s not. The oppressors need to feel unsafe.

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        Yeah, it’s interesting that the curriculum starts by portraying the American revolution as a just and righteous war, with ragtag bands of freedom fighters going up against a brutal and overwhelmingly powerful oppressor… And then as soon as the revolution is concluded, the messaging takes a hard turn to “but also violence is never okay and peaceful protest is the only acceptable way to instigate change!”

        In the chapters about the civil rights era, Malcom X and the Black Panthers were barely mentioned in a footnote. And only really as a “oh also not all people were peaceful, and that violence only hurt the protestors’ message” warning.

        And the sad part is that the propaganda works. Every time some politically-charged violence happens, you inevitably have people in the comments chanting about how violence is never the answer, and peaceful protest is the only acceptable way to change things.

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        Malcolm X wasn’t the violent revolutionary that teenage edgelords have made him out to be.

        Fuck, if anything, MLK was more radical because he advocated breaking the law. Malcolm X didn’t. He just believed in self-defense.

        People denigrating the legacy and accomplishments of MLK are fucking sickening.

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    I remember in high school social studies, civil rights essentially “concluded” with the death of civil rights leaders. I had a great teacher who tried to include queer rights until the lesson and I am so grateful to her for helping us understand that civil rights includes the the disabled community

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    The only thing I am glad my US Public School education gave me were a few history teachers who directly talked about politics, activism, and repeatedly getting arrested for protesting the School of the Americas.

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    The public school system was sort of ultimately designed to make good little obedient factory line workers. Not a surprise at all, they want you to think it’s a thing of the past and get complacent. How do you think we got where we are today?

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      Ironically we did spend a lot of time on that (I went to school in the eighties) and a lot of folks knew Reagan had really done us dirty. It was probably above my head.

      Also, I went to a really good school.

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        Reagan had really done us dirty

        He definitely kicked the county while it was down. But a big part of the US Golden Age was being the last economy standing after WW2.

        The end of America’s economic dominance was inevitable, as old colonial powers re-industrialized and newly liberated post-colonial states gained control of their natural resources for domestic use.

        By Nixon, American global dominance was sunsetting regardless of our domestic policies. That’s why we gave up the gold standard and adopted the Petrodollar as a globalized economic strategy. We couldn’t just import everyone else’s gold and sell it back to them at a premium anymore.

  • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    Well it is.
    They are called boomers now and blamed for everything despite of the things they did.

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      But the boomers to this day continue to vote for corrupt governments and fall for such blatant government lies and deception

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        25 -29 only had a 10% difference for Copmala.
        Everyone older was equal or pro Orange.
        But if it makes you feel better about your ageism towards a generation that actually fought for something while current generations are an embarrassment, go ahead.
        I don’t live in the US shithole so IDC.
        In fact, if they’re dumb enough to fall for divide and conquer tricks and not direct their anger at the guilty ones you deserve what you get and I’m glad that cancer country is going to shit…

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          I guess there’s some truth to that. No point fighting amongst each other while the real enemy gets away with it

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          “copmala” is not catchy at all, you should drop that from your vocabulary

          “Skamala” maybe.

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            No thanks, it’s not about being catchy.
            I suppose it implies scamming: an illegal way of making money, usually by tricking people?
            That would be most politicians.
            And it’s much too innocent.
            Copmala refers to her awful history, It may get some ignorant and oblivious americans to look up what that name is about.

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      While the movement is piece of the past, I would argue that the fight for equal rights continues to this day.

      What you said thought doesn’t add up to my knowledge though — Civil Rights was fought for roughly from 1950-1960s. The Civil Rights Act was signed in 1964 when Boomers were turning 18 and the last year of their generation. This would mean that the people in the streets protesting and/or voting weren’t boomers but the silent generation and their parents.

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        That is indeed your limited knowledge.
        If you want to cherrypick one thing (1964).
        There was still a lot to do and done after that.
        Vietnam after that for one.
        Black Panters didn’t even exist.

        Also, ‘the fight for equal rights continues to this day’

        It should but it doesn’t really.
        A lot of complaining and embarrassingly weak and lame stuff.
        Looks like the regime won and the population has been pacified.

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          If you’re going to troll from overseas you aught to work on your English a bit. I’d suggest reading up on your American history too but it’s pretty clear that’s not super important to whatever message it is you think you’re sending.

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            If you’re going to troll from overseas you aught to work on your English a bit

            That is typical level of petty I expect from a butthurt american.
            My English is fine, especially compared to the embarrassing literacy level of that banana republic.
            So you can quit being pretentious.
            And writing facts is not trolling.
            Instead of your baseless accusations you might have offered some yourself.
            I probably know more than americans about their own awful history, which they don’t learn about in their backward and propagandized schools.
            So do you have anything of substance to add or is pathetic slander all you have?

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              My English is fine,

              So you’re saying you sound like a crazy person without a single coherent thought because you intend to sound crazy and incoherent?

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                you’re dumb, boring and annoying, nothing will be lost by blocking you.
                go fuck yourself americunt peasant