It easy always blaming the baby boomers and Gen X. But the millenials and Gen Z are nearly just as cupable of global warming.
The amount of time we spend on the internet and the wastefull use of products contribute a lot to global warming.
Stupid blaming the individual instead of holding the corporations accountable.
and politicians
and voters
and people who don’t vote
cycle. public transport. stop eating meat. fly less.
you are somewhat responsible if you don’t boycott that which you can.
Basically my point, we are also to blame. Most of us could so a whole lot more for the environment. The acceleration of global warming (digital made a terrible situation exponationaly bad) started in the digital era and millenials/gen z are by far the biggest consumers of digital products.
We are also the biggest consumers of fast fashion although a certain subset of gen z started thrifting which is a really good development.
I may be just among the poors but I don’t know a single millennial who can afford fair-trade, cruelty free, etc. clothing. Or really anything.
Thrifting enshittified a decade ago. Walmart has more affordable clothing than any thrift shop in my area 🤷♀️
We poors are certainly killing the planet - for fun.
Buddy, global warming was locked in before gen Z could vote. This is a bonkers take
“Entirely”
Yes, grandma started the industrial revolution 200 years ago. Thanks Na Na…
It’s grandma’s fault IF she voted for climate unfriendly folks. Else, this is just edgy genz ageism. Ageism isn’t cool.
Plot twist, none of them actually do anything about climate change
Who do you think owns those companies doing all the climate unfriendly things?
If you see the likes of BlackRock or Vanguard in the list, that’s mostly retirement funds, meaning it’s mostly old people retiring off those companies. Grandma is an Exxon-Mobil shareholder and a Meta shareholder and absolutely invested in the AI industry through her nvidia holdings. She just doesn’t know any of it, but all of it is being done for her benefit as part of the ownership class.
People over 55 own 73% of all the assets in the US.
Millennial and genz ageism. Which makes me wonder what’ll happen when the last GenXer dies, millennials are still whining about student loans and not being able to afford a house
My parents and grandparents on both sides were/are straight ticket Republican. Told me climate change was a hoax.
Now parents tell me “well we figure oh well we will be dead by the time really bad stuff happens”.
This stereotype exists for a fucking reason.
*most stereo types exist for a reason, good and bad. Regardless of whether you like it or not.
Hmmm. Not this boomer. Guess I am anecdotal. As long as we keep the attitude that it’s the boomers and not the billionaires, we are royally fucked. But hey you do you.
Go ahead and invalidate my lived experience, you do you.
I do think the boomer politicians all need to go, used to think Bernie was ok but he fell for the LLM mania. They are either evil cadavers or timid water carriers for billionaires.
Go ahead and invalidate my lived experience, you do you.
Projecting your lived experience onto an entire set of people you’ve had no personal experience with is the very definition of bigotry. Young people nowadays seem to understand this when it comes to race, sex, or gender, not so much when it comes to age.
Absolutely no argument there. The boomer politicians and the very rich boomers are very much the same. I also don’t like that boomers don’t want to learn anything new, it’s really stupid and very detrimental.
Don’t panic yet. Give corporations and their store-bought politicians time to convince us it’s normal.
This meme is poorly worded. It says that it’s grandma’s fault that October used to be cold. It should say that it’s Grandma’s fault that October is no longer cold.
It’s scary and yet many people refuse to believe in climate change. I’ve had argument with a denier on social media. I can tell that the person is not being deliberately malicious, because he did let up on some points, but he’s the type to kick the can down the road and hopelessly hoping to deal with the problem later on.
it reminds me of this quote from game of thrones, is not the same thing, but it gives the same vibe about the scope of people’s thinking and worries: “The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.”
I know scientifically minded people who view it both as ‘hysteria,’ and for what remains, something that geoengineering can solve in the future.
In other words, look up the WSJ article advocating for fossil fuel production maximization as a net economic optimization in the long term, basically ‘better to maximize efficiency and minimize suffering now, to better geoengineer solutions in the future.’
…I read geoengineering papers. They are horrific. As in “our state-of-the-art-solution would… pour acid rain over the ice caps. And it’s still economically unfeasible, but less unfeasible. And maybe it will blunt things some?”
I’m offended such arguments are being presented.
But I can see right where those opinions come from, as with every twist of climate change denialism.
The environmental conspiracists are right. It really is Big Oil and such groups, from what I can see.
Here they claim it as a “natural process”. Good ol denial
It is a natural process as humans are natural.
And we are releasing natural stuff that is accelerating the change of the climate.
It’s much easier to pretend humans aren’t impacting it if people are allowed paint humans actions as outside nature. We are a huge part of nature, there’s 6 billion of us.
You mean 8 billion?
Ah you don’t know about that some of us are changelings
Fair enough
My dad believes in this
Marketing gimmick so the evils can keep on eviling
I’ve been the weird environmentally conscious kid for more than 30 years. People’s attitudes haven’t changed. The arguments haven’t changed. You’ll still find people who immediately get excited about global warming, because they like warm weather.
Some people are just astonishingly stupid, and yet, they walk around and talk and have jobs and can appear to be normal. That’s because they are normal. It is normal to be stupid.
Impose voting rights restrictions that reduce their access. Take the average life expectancy in your country, reduce the number by whatever the voting age is in your country. Cut off their right to vote by that number.
In the USA, where you can vote at 18, if the average life expectancy is 81 (made up a number), voting would end after 63. Pretty good way to ensure longterm thinking prevails.
Blaming older generations instead of the powerful and wealthy is dumb and counterproductive.
The older generation ceded our power to the wealthy. They went gleefully along with tax policy designed to move money to the top, anti union legislation, increasing costs of education, stymieing environmental regulation, not pursuing and enforcing trust busting measures, offshoring industry, etc , etc. They weren’t the driving force, you could claim they were tricked, but it was their own short sighted greed and often bigotry that allowed them to go along with it. And they by and large continue to support all that same shit.
And Gen-Z helped elect Trump in 2024.
Saying that problems are because if a certain group of people is just dumb analysis. It is always about broader systems of power. Capitalism has it’s ways to bend democracy to it’s will.
The ruling class wants you to blame the elderly for the problems in the world. Because then you aren’t focused on the real issues.
If we really wanna fix problems instead of fighting each other, we need to really stop bigotry in all it’s forms and start becoming class conscious.
So the real issue here arent the thoughts and actions of Boomers and Gen X even though we are here because of those thoughts and actions?
So by your nonsensical logic the current young generation is at fault for ceding more power than have been ceded in a long time to fascist oligarchs in the US.
It is plain bullshit nonsense. And you have gobbled up all of the ageism propaganda created by the oligarch propagandeers to make you completely forget the actual issue of class war.
Can’t they both be at fault?
Older generations also elected FDR four times and created the only social safety nets we have, created the EPA, eliminated smog, cleaned up our rivers, created the endangered species list, etc.
I’m getting really sick of how easily some of you fall for these obvious divide and conquer tactics. Wake the fuck up and actually think critically for once. Climate change is far more of a class issue than generational one.
Conservatives blame immigrants and minorities for their problems, liberals blame old people. People are fooled so fucking easily but I bet you think you’re so much smarter than magats.
People are fooled so fucking easily but I bet you think you’re so much smarter than magats.
Dang, I sure hope I never run into one of those types who think they’re the smartest person in the room. That sound’s insufferable.
That wasn’t boomers, that was an earlier generation.
It’s the continued support and denial instead of contrition that makes this meme fine for me. Don’t want to be targeted? Make it right.
The older generation ceded our power to the wealthy.
Did they actually? Or are you just saying that?
it was their own short sighted greed and often bigotry that allowed them to go along with it
Did we take any kind of vote on our actual energy policy? Did we collectively decide to build highways over railways or big trucks over dense housing blocks at some point?
Who decided to tear up the streetcars?
The Americans who believe their democracy is real are as bad as the ones who believe climate change is fake.
Oh, okay- so you’re just cowards who spent half a century allowing it because you didn’t want to risk your relative comfort.
you didn’t want to risk your relative comfort
I’m still not sure who this “you” is.
Who do you think invented the Solar Panel? Who has been the most rapid adopters? Who built the wind farms? Who did the research that tells us Climate Change is even happening?
Literally the same thing the next two generations are still doing?
Did I suggest they were any better?
I mean… they’re not. But fuck you for that disingenuous little sleight of hand where “they didn’t fight fascism hard enough” somehow becomes equivalent to “we voted for the fascists,” and also fuck you for making me defend their cowardly asses.
The generation wars are bullshit.
But we cant deny one generation has moved america to where it is and they still refuse to admit theyre in the driver’s seat, are too drunk to drive, and insist only they can do it
Ok, I will blame you then, yta4qcam2a9j7EfTgHrh
Environmentalists from the prior generations aren’t real. Nobody has ever done anything about climate change ever before and they’re not doing anything now and they never will.
That’s why the best way to fight climate change is to divide into generational cohorts and scream “Your Fault!” at everyone older.
…and did nothing to establish todays wide spread organizations, networks, ideas, and engagement. History doesn’t exist!
somebody voted GOP to have Trump in charge and paying companies to NOT block wind farms, somebody keeps buying giant trucks and voting to rip up bike lanes etc
So no young people voted for Trump? A lot of the no kings protestors are old people.
They voted for it.
No they fucking didn’t. Fascists voted for it, not age.
Ya, my grandma never had a private jet or a megayacht. Not sure how her 300sq ft bungalow she lived in for 40 years and tending a community garden plot led to the environmental and socioeconomical issues we face now.
But they did elect the politicians who caused the damage. A majority, anyway.
And Americans did elect trump who is ruining the world. The majority of people are voting with their money day by day to make billionaires more rich, and our only home more and more unhabitable even now. Nothing new, same old shit, same patterns.
Generational war is a way to distract from class war, and a way to disconnect people from being inspired by the long HISTORY of class warfare.
The 8 hour day? Unions? The wellfare system (such as it is), maybe Grandma was on the picket lines for some of that too?
Especially if she was poor, there are labour activists and socialists in every generation.
I’m not enjoying being in the first generation to be poorer than my parents’. This is not a distraction; it’s a big fucking deal.
My parents, personally, have not really contributed to the problem. They vote sensibly, they have been climate conscious (especially my dad) for wayy longer than most people. But those are individual stories amongst the overall picture.
On the wider point, being on the picket lines fighting for workers’ rights doesn’t have much bearing on whether you then voted to take money out of the public services your parents created, which you benefited from, so that you could enrich yourself personally.
I think you might have a slight fuzziness in your history here, too. The labour movement, at least in my country, reached its peak in the first decades of the 20th century. Boomers were born around the 50s, reaching adulthood around the 70s. We already had a minimum wage, 8 hour days, weekends, paid holiday, sick leave, etcetera. We already had a welfare system. Around this time, the “post-war economic consensus” was being dismantled, and public services were being sold off to private investors. If we’re just looking at the resolution of generations, the prototypical grandma wasn’t doing the things you’re talking about - they were done by her mother or grandma or others.
Again, this is a broad brush with room for variation within generations. But there’s a section of the online left that wants to remove all responsibility for anything, especially climate change, from ordinary people. As if we can but do the bidding of billionaires. But if a population votes for climate change, or votes to dismantle public services, they deserve the blame.
The meme doesn’t say parents or boomers, it says Grandma.
wow
+40 C°
So are boomers responsible for everything that’s wrong in the world now or just climate change?
Rich boomers are. Like actually rich.
So most of them, relative to younger people. Median boomer in the US is almost a millionaire and boomers collectively own 52% of the US. People over 55 own 73%. Majority of them benefit from whatever publicly traded corpos do because they have retirement funds.
And the poor boomers that vote conservative because they believe in hierarchies, like my parents. The ones that vote for wars and defunding education and are pro corporations.
No, its clearly the kids who are at fault… if they were born 50 years sooner they coulda fixed it
Yes they embraced the revolutionary technology of cars, which enabled post-WW2 suburbia to boom, which established the economic base for the rest of industry to progress to what we have now.
…so do we blame them? Because if you blame them, then expect Gen Alpha to blame you for letting AI take hold.
yes, blame us for ai
congrats on your circlejerk that achieved nothing
this is peak social media
This mentality makes sense in 1952, but with benefit of hindsight and all the consequences, is pretty obtuse to say today.
they embraced the revolutionary technology of cars
Well… they had it foisted on them.
Damn, GG was CEO of a fossil fuel company? or a billionaire?
Your kids are Monday morning quarterbacking. And your grandkids will be tearing you a new butthole for all the stuff you’re not fixing right now.
It’s not about what they failed to fix, it’s about what they actively fucked up.
As a voting block, their demographic consistently did the opposite of “Plant trees under which shade you will never sit.” At every turn they sacrificed their children’s future for short term profit.
Boomers deserve their selfish reputation.
Boomers deserve their selfish reputation.
You’ll deserve it too in 2076. You’re doing something wrong. I know this because you’re a human being.
Ah yes, I remember when my grandmother spent a century undermining scientific research on climate change through a massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests
No way, me too!
Damn, can’t believe those boomers and the way they’re abusing the means of production consciously and not as victims of propaganda like the rest of the working class!
I know, cant look grandma the same any more.
I mean, shes dead, but the point still stands.
Did your Grandma vote for and openly support the massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests?
If so, then yes she is also at fault for the reason it isn’t Cold in October anymore.
My grandma was not allowed to vote in the Chinese nor Indian elections.
Speak for yourself I’m wrapped in my blanket, but thats because of massive draft in my apt
Oh another thing my grandmother is personally responsible for is fomenting working class infighting to keep people squabbling and not looking upwards at the people who are the real cause of problems. That was also her specifically.
Oh you don’t need to throw the class problem at me. I’m very well aware, but it’s cute you think this is an attack on your Me-ma’s cookies while the scary black man has a cookie too.
But your grandma, you, and everyone reading this comment has a choice when it comes to democracy. You can vote for people to represent you who support your values, support your beliefs, and allow you to hold them accountable if they don’t do as their “employers” voted them to do. Voting for someone is a show of personal value. If you vote for a candidate who is anti-climate change, you are against the idea of climate change. I am married to a trans person and if I ever voted for someone who wanted to eliminate “transgenderism”, I’d be voting to kill my partner, thus not supporting their right to exist even though I’m married to them.
Are there much larger contributors to climate pollution that we should worry about? Yes.
Are there billionaires that are the cause of the majority of the issues in the world? Yes.
Should we fucking do something about that? Yes.
But until you or I are willing to put bullets through brains and have a The Purge event for billionaires, we need to vote for people who will actually do something about the contributors to pollution, or to reign in the amount of money billionaires are able to siphon from the rest of us. And that starts by voting for people at regional and city levels, and go from there.
Sorry, I believe your vote is a representation of you as a person. But that vote could be at the ballot box, or a college campus in Orem, Utah in September of 2025.
