• Iconoclast@feddit.uk
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    5 months ago

    Make changes to limit their own power and have the spine to resist both the far right and the far left.

  • FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago
    • proportional representation
    • modern constitution
    • direct presidential election
    • apolitical judiciary
    • apolitical law enforcement

    … would be a good start.

    • Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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      Not disagreeing but how would you make a modern constitution without pissing off alot of people who see it as a historical artifact for all time?

    • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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      Those are things Congress or the states would need to do—the president can’t (and shouldn’t) make Constitutional amendments.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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        Depends. I’m sure Cascadia and ColonialUSA will make and keep friends, but the central states far less so.

        It all depends how they re-organize after the country is split in 4.

      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yeah, goodwill is like love, trust and a very expensive porcelain Ming vase.

        Once broken, you can’t go back.

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      Unless, things get so fucked that it results in multiple landslide elections for the opposing party. If they had a supermajority in every branch, they could practically rewrite it all from scratch.

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          Yeah the next president would have to come from a new party is literally the first thing on my long list of what would need to be done

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        That’s still not enough. Even if you rewrite the rules, you need to show that the opposing side also supports the same rules.

        Hence the end of rules-based order.

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          That was my bad, I got it in my head that we were talking about fixing the fuck ups. You’re right, trust will take time, but I think everyone will be willing to at least give us a chance once the orange one is gone.

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            The Orange one has demonstrated how useless the system is at dealing with him. It doesn’t matter what the next guy says, everyone has seen that the guy after that can just blatantly ignore the rules again, tear up and ignore agreements, and nothing will stop him.

            That’s the real problem. The promises and signed agreements of America mean nothing now. I don’t know how you fix that without some serious structural changes and some way of proving those changes will be actually enforced.

          • meco03211@lemmy.world
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            No they won’t. He was in once and then gone. But he came back and so much worse. He has demonstrated that not only is there enough appetite among the voting populace for his brand of hate and violence, but that our institutions are woefully incapable of protecting their own country let alone the fucking world. Prior to that I’m sure most of the world would have thought straight up kidnapping a “democratically” elected world leader and a full on unprovoked war (in all but name) would be impossible. But here we are. Anything short of an actual uprising or revolution won’t be sufficient on their own. I’d bet good money we don’t have a chance at seeing a return to the position and soft power we held for at least half a century.

    • scarabic@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      It’ll take decades to make up for completely but what can the next president do to regain some trust?

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        The US needs to look inward and figure out how to reconstruct itself, or it needs to balkanize and let the theocratic feudal states and the oligarchic surveillance states destroy themselves and their populations in their own ways.

        The existing political system is shot top to bottom, complete regulatory capture, corrupted judiciary, masked secret police black bagging and executing people on the street, wasted idiots in charge of state, defense, and health…

        USA needs to stop worrying about how to impress the girl at the club and think about how to stop hurting themselves and others before they even think about relationships again.

        Just in the last year the US has systematically threatened and insulted every country in the world, and most world leaders individually (except NK, RU, IR, of course). And the US is still making things worse for the entire planet, proudly and defiantly. And the next president will continue this way of behaving because ALL US PRESIDENTS do now.

        Asking this question is like a bully asking the kid to forgive him while continuing to punch him.

        It’s kind of insulting to the other people.

        • scarabic@lemmy.world
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          What? I’m literally asking what the next leader should do to start improving the situation, not asking anyone’s forgiveness. If you can’t name one actual concrete thing, just admit it.

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            Your belief that one man, “the president” (or any one person) can do something that big is in itself part of the problem. Your democracy is flawed so you need to fix that first instead of thinking you need some superman that will just “do something”.

            It’s like bulldozing a house and then ask what the bulldozer can do to “fix things”.

            • scarabic@lemmy.world
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              I’m actually with you - I don’t believe any one president can just wave a magic wand and do away with regulatory capture forever. I’m not sure what I said specifically that made you think I put that all on the president.

              However it would be equally fallacious to say he can do nothing. It is still a very relevant question, which no one seems to want to answer: what CAN the next president DO to restore trust? Not necessarily restore it ALL but begin to heal the situation? No colorful metaphors. Actual actions that are within the power of the office. This is a real question.

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    A complete overhaul of the electoral process that allowed fascists to gain complete control.

    A complete overhaul of the society that became so sick that they willingly put the fascists there. Twice.

    A complete overhaul of the elittest pedophile bi/trillionaire class that has unfettered control over every branch of state and federal government and meddles in foreign affairs across the globe.

    In short: The USA would need to be torn down and rebuilt.

  • KC_Royalz@lemmy.world
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    Prosecute traitors immediately.

    Help install safeguards so this me er happens again. Like for presidential nominess for secretary of defense or education. Only select people who work in that field and with knowledge of the job can nominate people for consideration and the president can only hire this nominated

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      the problem is the abuse of power. you won’t gain back trust by abusing power. this thinking is the reason it won’t happen

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            Yep wanting to hold these fucks accountable and using extreme measures to make sure this never happens again is a problem. Lmao you sound like a conservative simp

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              It’s like it is not even trump the problem in the long run, but 50%+ of senators etc who just let an insane person burn down the whole country lol. Greek drama for sure.

  • Steve@communick.news
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    5 months ago

    It all boils down to two basic principles.
    Radical honesty and accountability.
    That’s the only way anyone builds trust.

  • TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club
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    Head down to the Winchester, have a pint and let it all blow over.

    In all seriousness, this is irreparable damage that will take more than a few terms to put right, that’s even if you have an administration that is willing to make amends. The entirety of this administration needs purging. Every single one, from the supreme court, to the FBI, CIA…anyone with any links or support for the current leeches in power.

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    Only speaking for myself, the following are necessary, but not sufficient:

    • Hand him over to the International Court of Justice, along with his entire regime. *…including Schumer and Fetterman.
    • Initiate prosecution of the actual criminals without fear or favor: ICE, cops, Musk, DOGE, wage-thieving employers, et cetera.
    • Lock up the billionaires. Don’t be a lawless dictator, though, there is 110% some good, legal reason that can be found. (But shoot 'em if they resist.)
    • Bomb the IDF out of existence and round up illegal foreign agents (AIPAC, et al.)

    I have suggestions if they want to get serious on Day 2, as well.

  • Demonmariner@lemmy.world
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    Gaining trust starts with accountability. People who have abused their position of power need appropriate punishment and be made to pay for the damage they have done.

    We have taken a “let’s just move on” strategy too often in the past. The American people aren’t going to buy it this time.

    As far as trust for America the country is concerned, holding guilty parties accountable will help that too, but mostly what it will take is time.

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    No, the age of America is over.

    The Trump preaidencies aren’t a radical break from the past, he’s just an unveiling of it’s darkest, ugliest, impulses and the logical conclusion of its ideals.

    Maybe European mainstream leaders can convince themselves to get back into bed with US imperialism, as we benefit from it so much, but US in the eyes of the people never recovered post Iraq II, and across the whole world the US is now primarily seen as the demagogic bully that it is.

    The US must learn to get along with its neighbours and treat other nations and people with respect.

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    US citizen living abroad. Not going to happen in one presidential term and the US has probably permanently fucked itself in terms of special currency/status/soft power ever getting back to the level it was.

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    A complete rewrite of the constitution. The ‘American Experiment’ is a failure. Start again.

    Unrealistic, I know, but Trump has revealed the massive fundamental flaws in your system that was born from racism and genocide.

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      It’s not so much your constitution, but the fact it’s not enforced. Or your Supreme Court makes up shit that’s not in it, like immunity for the president. The executive needs a complete redesign. In parliamentary democracies the executive is held by a group rather than an an individual, and can be overthrown at any point in time if parliament decides it. You should look into something like that.

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      On a sidenote, I always thought it was funny that Americans were “proud” they had like the “oldest” constitution.

      Man, it’s not old, it’s moldy 😂!

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    5 months ago

    Even if a completely sane, smart, and wonderful president were elected, and every country loved them, why would they trust us? We are always one crazy election away from… well, this.

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    No, they’ve lost it. Europe will turn to themselves and everyone else will turn to China. America’s never getting this back.