The position puts her at odds with some on the left, such as Rep. Ro Khanna, another potential 2028 contender, who said he wants to find “common ground” with people like Greene.

In a conversation Friday at the University of Chicago Institute of Politics moderated by David Axelrod, the onetime political strategist to President Barack Obama, a student asked Ocasio-Cortez whether she stood by past remarks that there were “legitimate white supremacist sympathizers at the core of the House of Representatives caucus” and, if so, why she worked with some of them.

Ocasio-Cortez did stand by them and said she wasn’t scared of reaching across the aisle, holding up her work with Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn. But she set a clear boundary.

“I personally do not trust someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene, a proven bigot and antisemite, on the issue of what is good for Gazans and Israelis,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “I don’t think it benefits our movement in that instance to align the left with white nationalists. I don’t think it serves us.”

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    So she was willing to endorse Joe Biden at the peak of the genocide but working with a Republican goes too far? Can it be any clearer AOC is a grifter?

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        More like president for Israel, and he did it for free. They didn’t even have Epstein files on him, he just did it for the love of Zionism.

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    You don’t have to trust MTG in order to work with her across the aisle to sign legislation putting an end to funding Israeli genocide. The two things can be true together.

    This is an infuriatingly divisive lib take by AOC, and sadly further evidence she’s just not ready for a presidential run. I truly hope she reconsiders and goes after Chucklefuck’s senate seat instead, it would do way more good for the movement that way.

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      It’s honestly both striking and funny to me that someone who had denounced Harris under this same purity test now suddenly is saying the left should work with fascists because there is common ground.

      lol wow. Just wow.

      I guess that’s single-issue tankies for you.

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        Ok well MTG isn’t running for president, nor would I vote for her if she did because like AOC, I don’t trust her at all.

        However, when she drafted a bill to reduce aid to Israel by 500mil, AOC voted against it. AOC claims she is about results, but then does her own purity tests like this which further enable genocide. It is damaging, divisive, and disingenuous of her to do so.

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      MTG is no longer in congress, so there is no reaching across the aisle to sign legislation. She quit literally the day her pension became vested.

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        MTG was in congress when she drafted a bill to reduce military aid to Israel, and AOC voted against it.

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          So I take then you know that was the only issue the bill addressed, with no riders, so you’re certain it should have passed. The MTG bill definitely didn’t fund any wacko conservative garbage, right?

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            Well, no. Pretty much the only bills that get passed in modern era Congress are omnibus budget bills. MTG’s Israeli funding reduction was a specific amendment to one such bill, which AOC chose to vote against.

            I’m sure the rest of what got passed had all sorts of whacko conservative garbage within, because they control the entire federal government at this time. This is likely partially why AOC voted against the actual bill as well.

            That said, if you consider Israeli control of the US government an existential threat, which I do, then that makes it even more important to find opportunities to work with the conservatives in power to curtail Israel’s influence, which MTG’s amendment would have done.

            AOC could have had her cake and eaten it too, by voting to pass the amendment to remove some funding to Israel, and then casting a performative nay vote for the overall budget bill.

            So yeah, I’m disappointed that she chose partisan politics above achieving an impactful, measurable result. But that’s liberals for you. The only reason I care is because I hold AOC to a higher standard than most of them, because she is by far the closest to representing my own values in terms of her actual voting record and what she claims to believe in.

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          To other users reading this: This user tends to argue in bad faith and I’d advise tagging them accordingly, but I’ll just clarify for the record:

          AOC voted against that bill because it actually enabled offensive bombs to continue while gutting defensive Iron Dome measures. AOC has long been a proponent of defensive measures that protect civilian life, independent of national flags. However, given the latest number of loopholes that Israel has used, AOC has as of April 1st adjusted her position to refuse ALL military aid to Israel.

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            Cash is fungible. Israel doesn’t care what it’s earmarked for, giving them money further enables the genocide. The important thing is that the US attempt to apply leverage by reducing what we give them.

            My positions on Israeli genocide and the shameful involvement of the US, due to our government being captured wholly by Israel, have been consistent throughout.

            It’s funny you make this claim however. The bad faith argument was from AOC claiming that she had to vote no because of offensive weaponry, when in fact she did so because her esteemed colleagues told her to heel. After the vote, she changes her position. Interesting.

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              In fact she did so because her esteemed colleagues told her to heel. After the vote, she changes her position. Interesting.

              Speculative.

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                Perhaps. But just to put a fine point on this matter - I am glad that AOC came around to the correct position on whether we should continue funding the terrorist nation state of Israel, in that we absolutely should not. They are literally using this money to buy off our politicians so that they don’t work for us, instead they work for Israel. It’s wrong in every possible way.

                I sincerely hope this is how AOC will vote regarding bankrolling Israel in the future, regardless of whether the authors of said bills have an R next to their name, or whether she perceives them to be a hypothetical future opponent in a presidential race.

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    No shit, Sherlock. I’m not mad at AOC for stating the obvious. I’m mad that she has to in the first place cos Democrats are fucking stupid. Not as stupid as Republicans, but still stupid.

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      Their apologists just don’t get it as well. Dems need to stop talking big and be big. Stop saying you’re the resistance and not verbally flogging the people who vote Trump appointees or funding of ICE. They need to stop portraying themselves as a weak party against the Republicans.

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      Better to reject defectors to your cause, that is losing, as Israel has their agents spread such sentiments.

      No wonder “we” are losing. Fucking sheep.

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    Trust? Trust what? Agree with her when she says something we agree with? I disagree. And I also don’t trust Cortez. But I don’t have to, we aren’t voting MTG into the presidency here, we are supporting or rejecting her defection to the good guys, because half the left are sheep that Israel plays like a fucking fiddle.

    I’m talking about you all.

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      MTG supported Israel right up until Trump ruined her reputation in the party. She wasn’t remotely shy about her support either. Now she doesn’t? I mean we can support her current disdain, but she’s obviously not authentic in her stance.

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        I believe she is authentic, she was a true believer.

        Regardless we need to win over more people, including and especially in red country. Rejecting defectors is something the administration and their allies pay influence agents to get us to do.

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          You do not win over people who are delusional by playing into their delusions, you acknowledge their delusions and explain it in another way. These people who believe thousands of lies from talking heads mostly got there by not being forced to acknowledge their shortcomings, whether it be about their tribalism, paranoia, guilt, or outright bigotry, it was because those views preexisted and were coddled. Most of the people who want to reach out to conservatives so bad can only fathom doing so by throwing the smallest victim under the bus. Fuck that

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          “This grifter wants to defect, so you need to visually be seen supporting them so that their patsies know they can defect too” Bro, she’s a grifter, which is why she’s not let into the club. Don’t scam people for personal gain and of course you’re welcome. We don’t need to be idiots about this.

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            I don’t agree at all, and think you are being played by the right wing/Israeli superfans.

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              You don’t get in bed with antisemites because the zionists conflated zionism with semitism. It’s not goddamn rocket science.

              You’re literally falling for the same shit that communists did when they helped elect Hitler into power.

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                The fact you use that terminology makes me question your understanding. You do realize Arabs are semetic?

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                  Yeah, no fuck. You got an actual argument or you just wanna point out obvious shit?

                  “Question your understanding” says the fuck trying to clean up MTG’s image for free

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        MTG supported Israel

        Dunno why she supported them in the first place, what with them being the number one manufacturer of space lasers she was so scared of.

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          Because fascists, at least at the time, viewed support for other ethnostates as a means to an end for their own goals. Their opinion turned on a dime because it was no longer a popular and largely positive example of an ethnostate working, at least in the mind of Americans, who she wants to appeal to.

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    I wouldn’t trust MTG with squirt gun at a swimming pool. Yes we all make mistakes and say and do dump things. Yes she has turned her back on Donny and maga but I do believe the minute he dies she will try to recapture the maga movement and mold it in her favor. And when this fails she will just grift another hatful movement. Yes she is still speaking out about Epstein which I will give her credit for but other than that stfu bitch. When we get our country back or what’s left of it you will still go to prison for all the crimes, lies, and pain you caused people. We will at least make sure your last meal is tasty Marge.

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    Empty G is still full blown MAGA, she just recognizes that Trump is heading for the exit soon, and as in all Cults of Personality, there is no #2. She’s angling to be the new MAGA leader, attracting those who have soured on Trump, as well as weak-willed Trad Dems, to give her an edge over those that only draw from MAGA.

    Don’t fall for it, she’s still the same psychopath she’s always been. Hating Trump is a low bar, she’s going to have to do better than that.

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      I don’t think it’s all that nefarious.

      I think she was a true believer up until she started forcefully being exposed to all the info and having good reason to pay attention to it.

      And it’s not hard to figure out that it’s all bullshit.

      Regardless, she’s still the “Jewish Space Lasers” person, and I don’t see why Democrats would be tempted to trust her on anything.

      Greene just doesn’t care about holding her job enough to carry Trump’s bullshit once she recognizes it as bullshit. That’s why she’s going to be out of politics like every other Republican who wouldn’t carry Trump’s bullshit and therefore are no longer in office.

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        Nah, she’s STILL a true believer, she’s just separated MAGA from Trump, which is something very few politicians have done publicly, and very, very few voters have done.

        It’s going to backfire. If MAGAs can’t vote for Trump, they’re going to want to vote for whoever Trump endorses, and it ain’t gonna be her.

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          It’ll be easy to prove me wrong. I just don’t think she’s that ambitious. She’s already got hers, right? I, personally, gave her thousands of dollars (sold index funds as she bought on insider knowledge), and she has healthcare for life.

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      Yeah by some amazing miracle if these two women were in a presidential race then on election day, I would make sure I sit at home and not vote for anyone. Both are completely untrustworthy, exactly the same. /s