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MattW03@lemmy.ca to Funny@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 1 month ago

The Enshittification Train

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The Enshittification Train

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MattW03@lemmy.ca to Funny@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 1 month ago
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  • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zip
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    The people willingly using a Google browser get what they get. This is a shining example of personal accountability.

    • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      most people are not aware of google’s shenanigans, and even less are aware that there are better alternatives

      why not help people discover these alternatives instead of being an asshole?

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        Most people refuse to use these alternatives. Atleast in my cases.

    • linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
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      People use the tools they have to get their tasks done. Not everyone wants to have the same weird hobbies we do.

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        People think Chrome is «the Internet».

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    It’s your laptop? You need to try not installing chrome on your own devices.

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    But don’t worry, the model isn’t used for any browser features users actually use, so it’s just Google wasting petabytes of bandwidth to service a fraction of a percent of its userbase.

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    i never used Chrome(only Chromium) in years, i heard about this and its insane.

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    Can those posting here please mention their top alternative browsers for those engaging in this thread?

    • Zidane@lemmy.ca
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      Waterfox and Librewolf are good alternatives

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        I know it is somehow the worst thing ever, but Firefox really is ok. Turn off some telemetry and it’s not a big deal.

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          That’s kinda the point of waterfox, you just save time fiddling with the telemetry settings every time you install it :P

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      Helium.

      Comes with full (not lite) UBlock, but Chromium based. It’s excellent.

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    I have been using Zen a different Firefox and it works very well.

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      Zen is sus

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        among-us-meme-sus-3856942162

      • crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        Why?

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    They called it weights.bin? That is trojan level of skullduggery.

    • ttyybb@lemmy.world
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      Reminds me of when my brother was setting up anti-virus for a friend, I don’t remember if it was the program or one of the folders to virus.bad

  • Peereboominc@piefed.social
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    If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don’t work so we’ll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

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      Firefox has been fine. I’ve thought about switching to one of the cooler forks but I haven’t gotten off my ass yet.

      • Zidane@lemmy.ca
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        This is your push, DO IT!

        Librewolf and Waterfox have been running just fine for me

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          Do you use either of them on android? The syncing between android and desktop is nice in vanilla Firefox

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            Waterfox syncs with no issues.

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      I stay away from sites and services that don’t work well on Firefox. Firefox complies with open web standards, if a site doesn’t run well on Firefox it implies that the operator is doing something fucky that you’d probably not be OK with.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      https://brave.com/

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        Brave is Chrome, stop suggesting that people use Chrome as an alternative to Chrome.

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          deleted by creator

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        “tired of Crap? use Shit instead”

      • gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/

    • paul@lemmy.org
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      Vivaldi is a productivity dream. Unfortunately it’s built on chromium so it’s not a complete break but it absolutely leaves every other browser in the dust in terms of how good it is. One of its best features is the ability to limit how much ram and CPU the browser as a whole uses or just certain sites. The amount of features it has is insane. Page tiling is my favourite one

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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      You can report sites that are broken on Firefox: https://webcompat.com/issues/new

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    Lol who is even using chrome still?

    • Doug@piefed.social
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      They install it on my work laptop without my saying so. I uninstall it every time, and until they explicitly ask me to use it, I’m sticking with Firefox.

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        Ayy what’s up twin.

        “Oh our portals are only certified for Chrome. Firefox won’t work.”

        I beg to differ.

        Chrome’s last genuine use died Aug 2024 when Puppeteer started supporting Firefox.

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      The people who are slightly less braindead than edge users lol

      • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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        Nah. At this point, Edge is actually a technically superior and slightly more trustworthy browser than Chrome.

        Deliberately using Chrome rather than Edge is super braindead.

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          What the hell they’re both Chrome!!

        • FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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          Heard.

        • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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          Edge? The browser that stores credentials in the clear? That Edge?

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            The edge of security!

          • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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            You think Chrome doesn’t?

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              They don’t. This one is on Microsoft.

    • Piranha Phish@lemmy.world
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      Unfortunately I am. I really really don’t want to be but somehow Firefox has turned into a buggy mess. Maybe it’s just me but I have so many issues with it.

      Dragging into a browser window doesn’t work half the time. Trying to drag a tab nearly always bugs out the window resulting in no mouse clicks for tabs or address bar. Something screws up sometimes causing browser to flip to a random tab every time I switch back to a window, somehow related to pressing CTRL+ something. Sometimes the mouse cursor in a textbox/textarea screws up where it’s not positioned where I’m typing, and I’ve even seen it go backwards while I type.

      I have experienced these things often, albeit most of them only after having multiple windows open with many tabs. And they’re not isolated to just one installation on one computer.

      I’m just baffled how there can be so many consistent issues though. So much so that I can’t justify using it over Chromium any longer, even with all of the issues with Chromium.

      I’ve been using Firefox since the beginning, and I’m an adamant supporter of them. I really hope they get these things sorted out.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      About 68% of the world according to this.

      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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        Which again confirms my assumption that most people are idiots.

        • VeryFrugal@sh.itjust.works
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          Some might call you an idiot for “not wearing the right clothes” or “not eating X”.

          Just because others don’t have the same amount of interest about something, albeit having some would help, doesn’t mean they’re idiots.

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        Does that count people using programs that you can’t control using chrome on the backend such as Steam? It wouldn’t be installed at all on my system if it weren’t for stuff such as that.

        • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Electron identifies itself as electron in it’s user agent so you could easily identify and separate it out.

          Also I doubt most companies leave the user agent as the default, they probably change it for whatever version the app is.

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        It’s even a vast majority in China.

        That’s a little surprising.

    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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      It’s the most popular browser by user base. It’s today’s Internet Explorer.

    • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world
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      Tech savy people are ignorant as well. My colleagues are all into Meta, Google and stuff like that

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      3.62 billion users as of March

      • thenoirwolfess@fedinsfw.app
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        Well, at least one of those users might be my Flaresolverr machine with a Chrome user-agent header

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        …God damnit.

    • linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
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      How many Lemmy users are on chrome.

      Any admins have stats?

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        I bet 10 bucks not a single Lemmy user is using chrome.

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    weights.bin? So, what, Chrome got depressed and ate 40 cakes? That’s terrible.

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      That’s as many as four 10s!

  • Mac@mander.xyz
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    Damn, if only someone, anyone, had ever warned against using Chrome.

  • VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.worksM
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    Awe dang. I have a theory that the more we push away their data centers they will recoup it one cpu\gpu at a time at the user-end. This is testing that feasibility.

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    Let’s say I tried to show this to my brother in an attempt to make the boy degoogle and he went “I’m not a gigabite hoarder, they can have the 4.”

    • VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.worksM
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      …they can have ̶t̶̶h̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶4̶̶ ̶ the whole enchilada everything I know as mexican food."

  • TheThunderWolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    https://librewolf.net/

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      Oddly enough, Firefox never clicked for me but librewolf is dope.

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      The only browser I use for Lemmy

      Still got firefox, mainly for making sense of youtube’s garbage UI with my tangled cable of extensions whenever I happen to boot that shit up lol

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    Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.

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      To be fair, some sites/things don’t work with Firefox, and keeping up with Chromium derivatives is a difficult task.

      Hence most default to Brave. They got the SEO. They got the marketing money and socials hype.

      You have to dig deep into the internet to find Helium, Vivaldi, Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, or whatever the fork de jure is. And that’s if you miss all the scamware.

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        Never had a website not work on PC Firefox

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          Some stuff that requires USB shit

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            Yeah, but I guarantee you, that 99.99% of Chrome users never used that feature. I also keep a spare chromium installation around, which I used one time for the browser based installer of GrapheneOS.

            Other than that, I never needed that feature, and I am already a power user.

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          I know of one shitty ticketmaster-like site that I may unfortunately have to use like once a year.

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        Sounds like a “them” problem, if it does not work in whatever Firefox fork ill find an alternative website.

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        Brave is also fine. Just gotta debloat it. Or use origin for free on Linux. Helium still better tho.

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      Because I’m lazy and sometimes want to play battlefield

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        Don’t get me started on EA 😩 probably the hardest part of not buying EA stuff is missing out on my beloved BF.

        Ah well try to enjoy it for the both of us

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          I’m terrible at it and hate myself for owning it

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            That’s Battlefield, baby!

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              Real Battlefield Moment™️ right there yup

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        This is the reason

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