• lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world
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        Maybe the kid’s parents should learn to do the right things to keep them safe

        It should be obvious now what those things are

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            They only understand when it personally affects them in some capacity.

            I keep this image saved on my phone, because it is relevant way too often:

            The study asked participants to mark the farthest region from center that they cared about. For instance, marking 4 means you also care about 3, 2, and 1. Liberals largely marked high numbers near the perimeter. Things like “all sentient life” or “all life, including non-sentient”… While conservatives tended towards marking low numbers near the center. Things like “my extended family” or “my closest friends”. So yes, in fact, many of them genuinely don’t care unless it affects them (their family or closest friends) directly.

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              Another fun fact is that liberals scored 20 points at the highest, while conservatives scored a 12. So not only do they only care about themselves, they don’t even care about the people closest to themselves as much as liberals care about people they don’t know

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              I vaguely remember seeing that before, I know that studies of people’s brains shows an actual, physical difference. With the centers for emotional response, especially fear, larger in typically Republican voters while those left of them don’t have as large portions.

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        When those in power choose to ignore the people they represent, then what other options are there?

        Essentially you’re saying elected representatives can use their children as human shields so they can do whatever they want.

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          When those in power choose to ignore the people they represent, then what other options are there?

          Oh I don’t know, off the the top of my head… Elect people who will represent the people accordingly, run for office and be the change you want to see, move to another town/state that is more in line with your beliefs. It’s certainly not to assassinate those and their family members that I feel aren’t living up to my standards.

          Essentially you’re saying elected representatives can use their children as human shields so they can do whatever they want.

          Never said anything remotely close to that.

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          And you’re saying thise kids deserve to have their lives endangered because of whatever stupid decisions their parents are making? The kids don’t have a say in anything, and they can’t leave! This person was too much of a coward to take this action to wherever the councilperson works. Nobody cares about innocent lives lost anymore.

          And also, the more this sort of thing happens, the less people will want to put their families in potential danger. You will get fewer good, quality people running for any office.

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    Idc if it’s a false flag. It’s based and the US needs more of these actions (in an organized and targeted manner).

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    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the councillor did it themselves to demonize the anti-data-center people

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    I bet this isn’t what really happened. It has the feel of a scam. The payout this guy has been promised for helping get that slop farm built must be huge.

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      You’d be surprised at how cheap indiana politicians can be bought for. If the stoners here could organize a go fund me and donate the cost of a taco bell meal each we’d have legal weed.

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    Eco-terrorists do your thing. No one else will stop this stupid forward momentum on AI as it needs to suck in huge resources just so some dipshit can request porn comics.

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      Please people, you need to stop spreading this misinformation.

      AI is not killing the environment. If you track the sources of these claims, you will find that they first were spread by McKinsey and Bloomberg, who have a vested interest in publicly traded oil companies and other polluting corporations. They love to spread this misinformation because it distracts from the REAL environmental harms being caused by fossil fuels, meat farming, and concrete production. See drawdown.org for the specific numbers.

      We need to stay focused on climate change and not get distracted. Our efforts should be focused on stopping new coal plants and factory farms. Datacenters, and especially the one in indianapolis which wouldn’t even have used water for cooling, have minimal environmental impact compared to trump’s coal, oil, and farming policies which will kill tens of millions in the long run and have already sparked wars.

      We can fix climate change. We were so close to replacing fossil fuels that oil companies got scared; we can’t afford to give up at the last mile.

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        The opportunity cost for AI is pretty high. That’s a lot of resources spent on something that’s bad for the world, even if it’s not specifically the worst for climate change reasons in a first order sense.

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          And you as a commenter have an opportunity cost too. You could be spending your time raising money for PETA or Oxfam, or researching climate change, or commenting about the effects of factory farms, but instead you’re just griping about the current popular thing to gripe about.

          I donate 100% of my salary (I’m retired but still work) to fighting income inequality, climate change, animal abuse, and transphobia. It’s so frustrating to see people waste their time hating on things they don’t even understand just to fit in. Maybe this doesn’t describe everyone commenting, but if it does maybe they should get off their high horse. Sometimes the best thing a person can do for the world is shut up and give space for an actual expert to talk.

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            I really don’t think the billions of dollars spent on AI is equivalent or at all analogous to the time I spend posting on the toilet or while waiting for things to happen at work.

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              Honest question, you used the word opportunity cost, but do you not understand what that is? With an opportunity cost, you compare two possible actions that you can take. It doesn’t make sense to compare your action (supporting those that propagate misinformation) to the actions of an entire economy (investing in ai infrastructure), because the actor is not the same in both.

              With an opportunity cost, you can only compare the actions that you can take, and you alone. I listed a few comparable actions in my previous comment: research climate change, research the climate effects of ai, post about factory farms, read up on solar, invite others to donate money to clean water causes. These can all be done on the toilet. Any of these is a better use of your time than joining a mob of people against a cause you don’t even fully understand.

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                There is opportunity cost of Microsoft et al investing billions in AI instead of doing anything else. That money could have been spent on renewable energy research, improving efficiency of existing hardware, supporting work from home to reduce commuting, whatever. Those opportunities are lost because they went with AI instead.

                I didn’t mean my opportunity cost from the toilet.

                AI is a poor use of limited resources and opportunity.

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                  I didn’t mean my opportunity cost from the toilet.

                  I did, that’s literally what I’ve been talking about this whole time. I’m asking you to stop wasting yours and my time.

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      I actually think the market will beat them too it. Between Sora being taken out behind the barn, the laundry list of layoffs that indicate these companies are getting high off their own supply, and lastly the very real realization that all this “investment” is a massive billion dollar circle jerk.

      It looks too bubbly to me, we can only hope the pop happens fast enough that these companies cant cannabalize eachother, but thats wishful thinking.

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    A thing I was wondering why haven’t have happened already have happened.

    Now I wonder when a terminal cancer patient will use their last strength to drive a fuel truck into a datacenter.

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    The Free Market in action. If you keep behaving in conflict with the people, eventually the people are going to stop it. Ask that health care CEO. This was a threat this time. It won’t be a threat next time.

    This guy is a politician, and a constituent is telling him the position he should take. He should do his job, and listen to his constituent.

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      I’m sick of not being able to vote for a fucking good person.

      I will not vote for anyone approving data centers in my city. Scumbags.

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        The problem with violence being the answer is that you need a specific scope and endpoint for it. Otherwise it becomes it’s own problem.

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          Valid. It is a useful tool, to be employed in the proper circumstances, to achieve a specific objective.

          Unfortunately, these MAGA Morons have no idea what any of that means. Violence is just “Wicked Cool!” to them.