• jonesey71@lemmus.org
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        2 months ago

        Part of the problem is all the fucking morons saying that the world economy isn’t a zero-sum proposition. If the economy isn’t zero-sum then we can just give everyone a billion dollars on paper and they could just buy their own houses. Inflation, what is that?

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            2 months ago

            Have you misread my comment so much that you think I am in favor of billionaires? I absolutely know how much good could come from taxing billionaires on their wealth rather than their “income”. I understand that the world economy isn’t zero-sum and that every billionaire is a parasite that sickens society as a whole. Please re-read my comment and see that I am not a bootlicker.

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    2 months ago

    Correction: capitalism is better than socialism because our taxes pay for one person to have a trillion dollars instead of everyone having health care.

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    2 months ago

    Had a customer who apparently lives next to where he shoots off his rockets. Old lady wouldn’t stop singing his praises. Telling me how great of inventory he is on and on. I had to hold my tongue but goddamn it was hard.

    Of course in the same breath talk how she had to sign a petition to keep him from buying there beach.

    She claims he talks to them and once paid for their meal. Fucking nutty old lady. Of course she lives on an island were her windows rattle everytime his rockets go off.

    Oh top off she hates Bezo because his rocket blew up and now their property are ruin.

    I wanted to ask so badly about why not mad when Space X rockets have blown up too?

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      2 months ago

      i just wish we had some kind of functional safety net for retirement such that individuals weren’t forced to hoard wealth out of fear like they are now.

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        2 months ago

        Hoarding wealth with good reason is fine but someone like Musk isn’t doing it out of fear. He has more money than he can possibly use and could give away like 90% and still be safe. What even motivates him? It’s pure selfishness

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          So like, both my wife and I grew up washing and reusing tinfoil. We were never so poor we actually needed to tighten the belt that much until we had been together a while, but like I still catch myself doing it. Some generational traumas take really weird forms. The most generous interpretation of space Karen’s actions I can think up is that he’s acting out over traumas he was taught (rather than experienced firsthand).

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    2 months ago

    Grok, is it better for someone to have a trillion dollars or for society to have universal health care?

    One person’s extreme wealth might improve outcomes for their immediate circle or spark breakthroughs, but it cannot equal the guaranteed, equitable gains of universal coverage for everyone. Societies that prioritize universal access (and manage costs) have thrived with strong metrics; those chasing billionaires have not demonstrated superior aggregate well-being. Society’s long-term success depends more on widespread health and opportunity than on whether any one person holds a trillion dollars. Universal health care aligns better with both empirical evidence and the human imperative to reduce suffering and build trust.

    Damn, looks like the rich pedo is gonna to rekajigger his coding (again) so his own AI slop bot stops telling people that rich fucks are bad for everyone.

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      He didn’t take any money from you. His stocks are worth that much because of investors. If he died his stocks would lose 90% overnight. That money you think exists, doesn’t.

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        Yeah, I doubt that. Sure, the overinflated stock makes the number go big, but he didn’t get there without seriously harming everyone on his way.

        He’s trying to break unions wherever he sees one. He’s trying to break governments in different countries whenever he thinks they might threaten his way of life. He cheaps out on sensors that could make his shitty cars a little less lethal.

        He’s a threat on everybody’s pursuit of a good life to enrich himself just a little bit more. Just some billions, he definitely needs those. He’s cancer, and he wants to grow.

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      Literally yeah exactly how it works. He skims the value created by labour and free gifts of nature and magazines pretend like it’s a good thing.

      It’s like imagine if this world is an all you can eat buffet, riches and bounty overflowing — enough for all. Then this asshole shows up and claims a whole row.

      Not how it should work.

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      2 months ago

      Remains silent?

      I’ve heard much about colonization, and I’m in the Western culture. That’s, like, the exact opposite of silent

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    2 months ago

    Musk has assets, not money. If everybody of the 8 billion people would get $100 worth of those shares nobody could eat one bite more unless some people start buying the assets and restart the cycle.

    Musk has control over companies, over capital. When do people start doing the same, as people, instead of handing their money and control to index funds?

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      Billionaires lend against those assets, so they can buy stuff. Does Musk sit under a bridge, 'cause he has “only assets”? Where does the money come from?

      He lends against his assets. Once the bank wants to collect, his assets are worth more, so he lends more and stays afloat. Bonus points: he’s saving on taxes now, 'cause he’s in so much debt.

      If everybody had those shares, they could play the lending game as well. Only, they can’t, because nobody lends against one share ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        2 months ago

        So the problem is that not everybody is rich?

        Meanwhile everybody could vote for a party that supports universal healthcare and UBI. Musk is not the problem. Focussing on Musk distracts from the possibility that the next election can change everything.

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        Same for them and anyone else. I mean, so many people die or get severe health issues every day. I just want some statistics to work that way that’s all. You know how COVID specifically was bad for older people, I am interested in the statistics of something else that’s specifically bad for billionaire class.

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      Literally discovered an infinite money glitch that admins refuse to patch, despite severe balance issues