I’ve been seeing more and more tradies respond to customer enquiries with llm generated emails. AFAIC that instantly means you get shitlisted.
If you can’t even write a fucking email you are not working on my house. This is supposed to be your field of expertise and you outsourced even talking about it to something using fucking reddit and facebook as sources
It’s strawman rage bait. You can say the same thing about sailing vs combustion engine shipping, programming via C on notepad vs modern development environments and languages, etc.
The missing context is the time required when you know what you’re doing. And yeah sometimes walking is still faster than driving a car. But let’s not pretend we’re not seeing a major shift like industrialization or the internet. Both of which have fucked up society and the world in countless ways as much as it has benefited us.
I can write a solid 10 page well-researched paper out of a library in two weeks. With the internet, I can write that same paper with even better research in one week. With AI tools, I can write that same paper with better readability, conciseness, and overall editing in a couple days.
What’s the cost? Probably not pretty, but the deadline is a lot shorter than it used to be now. And that’s the reality most people will find themselves in now.
Yup. This applies to every technology post-enlightenment technology. We didn’t need cars, we didn’t need the internet, we didn’t need phones, we didn’t need TV, we didn’t need X-rays, we didn’t need pharmaceuticals, we didn’t need automated production and we certainly don’t need anything to think for us.
“There’s no way you could write a 10 page paper without ChatGPT”
Pulls out a novel
Pulls out medical journal
Pulls out documentation for home insurance
chatgpt please summarize all 3 of these
This novel is about a vampire who found love
This medical journal suggests Cancer is bad
This home insurance covers fire damage
i just read 3 whole books in a hour everyone, its so easy
The Feeling of Power by Isaac Asimov: https://archive.org/download/TheFeelingOfPower/The Feeling of Power.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power
I never learned to bullshit much, and my default behaviour when i don’t know shit is doing nothing. Can anyone explain why i didn’t get a degree?
As people here might notice over time, I write long comments on Lemmy without even noticing, all without AI. I feel like a mutant, though not so much in a good way.
That’s crazy—It seems implausible to do that. As far as it goes for me—I can’t imagine writing comments without AI—There’s just so many words—No one has time for that.
The longer comments I write get the fewest upvotes.
Maybe you should turn your comments to tiktok dances?
Maybe people just don’t like your opinions
People used to call me the dictionary for having a ton of useless information, but now they call me chatgpt :(
I genuinely worked hard on learning an encyclopedia worth of knowledge and fun facts and I get compared to a hallucinating predictive text model. SMHOAT
Back then, you’d find usable info on the web. Now everything is buried under centuries worth of AI slop read. Plus it was more accepted to have blind spots on your knowledge. Now everyone using AI raises some bars and the only sucker not using AI gets a worse grade.
Have they ever heard of books? Whole volume with up to several thousand pages written by people.
I’ve written two books, both well over 100,000 words. While writing the books, I had to read, and re-read them several times, of course. I also spent quite a bit of time researching things, reading parts of other people’s books.
The first one I wrote before ChatGPT existed. I finished the second one last year, but I have no idea how to use ChatGPT to write a book, so I didn’t try. Besides, writing is fun, why let a stupid machine do it?
why let a stupid machine do it?
From what I’ve seen, it’s to make a knock off of established work and hope people buy it on Amazon thinking they are getting something from an actually good series.
Tbf, I’m old enough to have known the world before the world wide web, let alone ChatGPT, and I really don’t understand how the hell anyone could write an internally consistent 1000+ page book/series.
Writers are witches.
Back before the internet became so addictive, I could write and write and write for long periods. Nowadays I have a really short attention span.
I do try to write hand-written letters every year, but work and chores and everything keeps getting in the way.
Really? This shit made front page twice?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right? You really got energy for this?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right?
As someone currently in college (soon not to be as I am dumb), I believe it. This indeed is how many do assignments, and also study, thus fully trusting the correctness of the information.
But it’s coming from both sides.
Lecturer on programming class told us we can ask questions if we have some. Cool, I did.
So I asked, got “That’s a good question, let’s find out.”, he typed out my question to Gemini, and read back the answer.
This was an introductory class to C, and my question was if you can find how much memory was allocated with malloc. His answer was Gemini’s answer which was a concrete no.
Stackoverflow however provided me with better information on the matter: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1281720 (possibly yes)Also, I’ve seen him ask and copy paste a number from Gemini. I think it was what a max value is for
uint32_t.
Putting 232-1 into a calculator? Nah, let’s use an inefficient non-deterministic calculator instead.
Lastly, he added “AI is your most patient teacher”.He did the speaking part of lectures above average, but holy information sources…
I watched a TA (teaching assistant) pull up their chatbot history when I challenged my DSA exam grades. I got about 17 points back. My grade went from high 60s to middle 80s.
Also anectode: I personally know of 2 people that sit in the back during 60+ people exams and simply use their phones.
I’m not gonna feel any kind of sorry for an idiot that cannot imagine not needing a machine to do all of their thinking for them.
That’s a literal real world NPC right there.
And shit, that’s an insult to a fair number of NPCs, who have better writing, voice acting, and potentially GOAP driven tactics.
Fuck, sometimes even better facial animations.
They’re probably voting though…
Watching so many functioning adults and people alike just lobotomize themselves immediately when AI became a thing is just so fucking tragic
It is the prophecy foretold by our entire 20th/21st century concept of Zombies.
Its just that the vector for mind obliteration is primarily digital, not biological or supernatural.
It is the endpoint result of our laziness and preference for convenience.
When the rat in the skinner box gets a button wired to its brain that releases dopamine, the rat just hits the button untill it dehydrates/starves to death.
I read Death by Ecstasy by Larry Niven when I was a kid. The idea of “wire head” has stuck with me. It does look a lot like people staring at their phones, I’ve noticed.
Higher cognitive skills are a nightmare from which they managed to awake.
The CEO of one of my companies clients literally said they couldn’t do their job without Claude when we told him his PC was slowing down to the point of being unusable due to the desktop app and suggested he not use it
Have this shitgurgling fuckwits ever heard of a goddamn book?
Those big stacks of flat wood from the before fore?
Heat many boilers to keep turbines spinning with those. The machine gods demand it
I author those kinds of papers routinely for work unfortunately. Usually closer to 30-40 pages but there are graphs so I guess that takes a few pages off. But….yeah…
This kid’s going to lose their mind when they find out about books.
Replace this with “without the Internet“, and I remember having this exact same conversation 25 years ago.
The internet is completely different, it’s not an LLM.
I didn’t say that the internet and LLMs were the same, but that the above conversation and ones I’d had about the internet were.
I think you misunderstood the context; this was about writing papers unassisted by technology, not about the specific technology involved.
No, I understand it’s not about the specific technology, but I thought you were trying to imply that they were similar and that they produce the same results in reference to writing papers. My apologies if that was incorrect.
what I meant is that new technologies tend to make people forget how things were done before they existed.
in the older example, my reply would be a sarcastic, “try a library!” Because that’s how we did research before we could just look anything up on the internet.
hell, there was a time when I wasn’t allowed to hand in my homework typed, as my teachers didn’t believe that I had completed the work myself unless they saw it in my own handwriting-- even though they were fully aware that was taking typing/computer classes. (elementary school in the 80s was… very different).
Yeah, makes sense from that angle. Thanks.
Having to write a book report in fifth grade on an author of a book and a book itself with only a school library or a local library available to you was an entire journey, not an afternoon. It took, like, a week, and you had to learn how to write footnotes and end notes with complete references and formatting and everything.
End during that journey, you had to learn a lot about how to do all of those things before you could even get at the information you wanted or needed.
When people say “things were better then, a lot of times that may be what they were referring to, because if I wanted to write a book report about, “to kill a Mockingbird“, I had to learn a lot just to get to that information. And that was the point of it.
Now, with AI, I’ve put more effort into this comment then some kid does to produce a 10 page essay about that book and the author without even having to read the book.
How far we have backslid
